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Message 465119 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 21:36:20 UTC - in response to Message 465070.  

This thread clearly reflects the public opinion towards this issue.


Users of the web are a "special" (for lack of a better word) portion of the population.
Those who use BOINC to crunch for SETI, even more specific.
Those not only crunching for SETI but also coming to these forums to read and post, more specific still.
Therefore, it would be difficult to tell if opinions expressed on these boards are representative.
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Message 465124 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 21:53:48 UTC - in response to Message 464906.  
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The part I love the most is how some of you seem to believe the government can legislate feelings and opinions.


"These feelings and opinions" that you expound upon seem to be in the minority. Would you consider doing away with the Constitution, (of several countries) and begin a new one? One that limits a women's rights? Or only ones that limits only the rights of people that disagree with you?
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Message 465126 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 21:55:31 UTC

Greetings,

As I stated yesterday, this thread is moot. Nothing that the "opposition" presents here shows irrefutable fact that breastfeeding is either sexual in nature or indecent. Those facts do not exist. The discussion is continued simply for arguments sake. Until next I visit.... (-:<

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Message 465130 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 22:08:23 UTC - in response to Message 465126.  
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Greetings,

As I stated yesterday, this thread is moot. Nothing that the "opposition" presents here shows irrefutable fact that breastfeeding is either sexual in nature or indecent. Those facts do not exist. The discussion is continued simply for arguments sake. Until next I visit.... (-:<

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You're right of course, just as the last time. But we're having a discourse here thank you. BrainSmashR probably isn't going to change, & we probably aren't going to change, but we're all changing. Who knows BrainSmashR may change his opinion, & we may change to his point of view. Heck, I might run for Prez, & outlaw all breastfeeding. Even in the privacy of a mother's own closet. But this will run it's course, & probably all walk away feeling the way we feel now. But who knows?
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Message 467089 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:25:39 UTC

what happened?


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Message 467091 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:27:02 UTC - in response to Message 467089.  

what happened?

discourse ended.
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Message 467096 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:32:38 UTC

over zealous power tripping mod attack yet again
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Message 467097 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:35:13 UTC
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Indecent exposure is the display of bare parts of the human body that, according to the standards of the local cultural norms, would otherwise be clothed.



Breastfeeding is not Indecent exposure and you are breaking the Law for saying it is.

It's a basic human thing that we are doing and we should be able to do it in public without being kicked off planes

Laughing Out Loud.

Gee, I wonder if she would feel the same if it was a little boy playing with his first erection in public....




you have to turn something natural into a sexual act? when would a boy be undressed on a plane with an erection? if you are going to make comparsison at least try and use something similar.

You ASSUME no one but the stewardess complained.




See next quote where "you imagine"

Lack of details does not make fact. I imagine lot's of people were offended. Notice it also doesn't say anyone came to her defense.




See two quotes up. but she was sat in the window seat 3rd seat in. 2nd row from the rear of the plane, just how far did the flight attendant have to lean over to Leer at a womans breast to find it objectionable?


Pay attention this time. I quoted a DEFINITION, not a law. Do you know the difference?




See below i Quote the laws, do you know the difference?

A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way, that doesn't bother others



this is the law, see the full law below, oh and it's us law, all 50 states have laws they differ in wording, but mainly say the same thing.
(3) No person shall interfere with a mother breastfeeding her child in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be.
the attendant broke the law, and in doing so, represented the airline who in turn broke the law.


Who said she broke the law or that she should not be allowed to breast feed her child in public?

You see, this is what happens when you think you know what someone is saying instead of actually reading what they have to say.


Then you too are obviously guilty of reading more than what I have posted. I said it was indecent, not illegal.




(1) Not withstanding any other provision of the law, a mother may breastfeed her baby or express breast milk in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be. Breastfeeding a child or expressing breast milk as part of breastfeeding shall not be considered an act of public indecency and shall not be considered indecent exposure, sexual conduct, lewd touching, or obscenity.

you see it's not even indecent in the eye's of the law. only some crackpot would consider the act of feeding a baby indecent, or is it because you cant see the breast because the babies head is in the way? is that what you object to?

Hi BJ....

I called it indecent, not obscene.

There's a difference between something that's sexually offensive and exposing body parts that would otherwise be covered in a given situation.




and just explain to a woman (because i need to know this when i start to breastfeed) just how do you breastfeed with covered nipples?
your quote says "given situation" correct me if i am way off base here, but the given situation is breastfeeding right?
so under your own DEFINITION it's acceptable what she did, where she did it, and how she did it.

SB 106, Acts. No. 180 (2006).
SECTION 1. A NEW SECTION OF KRS CHAPTER 211 IS CREATED TO READ AS FOLLOWS:
(1) Not withstanding any other provision of the law, a mother may breastfeed her baby or express breastmilk in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be. Breastfeeding a child or expressing breastmilk as part of breastfeeding shall not be considered an act of public indecency and shall not be considered indecent exposure, sexual conduct, lewd touching, or obscenity.
(2) A municipality may not enact an ordinance that prohibits or restricts a mother breastfeeding a child or expressing breastmilk in a public or private location where the mother and child are otherwise authorized to be. In a municipal ordinance, indecent exposure, sexual conduct, lewd touching, obscenity, and similar terms do not include the act of a mother breastfeeding a child in a public or private location where the mother and child are otherwise authorized to be.
(3) No person shall interfere with a mother breastfeeding her child in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be.

{EDITED) 50 states, Canada and Mexico are not states yet, so i'm informed. ;p
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Message 467101 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:45:43 UTC

We return to "As The Breast Milk Turns"
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Message 467104 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 467101.  

We return to "As The Breast Milk Turns"

yes..well you started it! :P

It's an interesting discussion as long as people don't get carried away by their passions and start hurling personal insults at each other.
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Message 467107 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:48:51 UTC - in response to Message 467096.  

over zealous power tripping mod attack yet again

Hey, you got something right.
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Message 467109 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:50:03 UTC - in response to Message 467107.  

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Hey, you got something right.

..and you know that how?
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Message 467110 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 467109.  
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over zealous power tripping mod attack yet again

Hey, you got something right.

..and you know that how?

because i just reposted my post that the power tripping mod deleted, less 2 lines of text.
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Message 467114 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:58:24 UTC - in response to Message 467107.  

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Hey, you got something right.

maybe not so uneducated after all huh? lol
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Message 467115 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 22:58:53 UTC - in response to Message 467110.  

over zealous power tripping mod attack yet again

Hey, you got something right.

..and you know that how?

because i just reposted my post that the power tripping mod deleted, less 2 lines of text.

Good..I think the orignal final comment on your earlier post went a little too far. The rest was fine though.
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Message 467122 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 23:02:23 UTC - in response to Message 467097.  


this is the law, see the full law below, oh and it's us law, all 52 states have laws they differ in wording, but mainly say the same thing.
(3) No person shall interfere with a mother breastfeeding her child in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be.
the attendant broke the law, and in doing so, represented the airline who in turn broke the law.



Which '52 states'? There are only 50. You may wish to edit this statement while the edit window is still open.
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Message 467124 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 23:03:55 UTC - in response to Message 467115.  

over zealous power tripping mod attack yet again

Hey, you got something right.

..and you know that how?

because i just reposted my post that the power tripping mod deleted, less 2 lines of text.

Good..I think the orignal final comment on your earlier post went a little too far. The rest was fine though.

i think it was only one word that needed to be removed, but whatever

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Message 467126 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 23:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 467101.  

We return to "As The Breast Milk Turns"

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Message 467129 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 23:08:47 UTC - in response to Message 467122.  


this is the law, see the full law below, oh and it's us law, all 52 states have laws they differ in wording, but mainly say the same thing.
(3) No person shall interfere with a mother breastfeeding her child in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be.
the attendant broke the law, and in doing so, represented the airline who in turn broke the law.



Which '52 states'? There are only 50. You may wish to edit this statement while the edit window is still open.

edited, removed canada and mexico from the list of 52 states, lol
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Message 467134 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 23:12:22 UTC - in response to Message 467129.  


edited, removed canada and mexico from the list of 52 states, lol


LOL.. Canada and Mexico part of the USA... Anyone yet tell them about it? ;)
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