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Message 463877 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:15:13 UTC - in response to Message 463828.  

Nothing wrong with breast feeding, but there is a time and place for everything and a crowded airplane in front of hundreds of people, in my opinion, is no where close to "the place".

Simply put, sitting in the back corner is not being discreet, while covering the child and the action with a blanket would have been perfectly acceptable.

P.S. I no longer have the option to edit the initial post, so I can't change the name.


Regarding time, I do believe the article mentioned the flight was already 3 hours late in departing. I would not be surprised if that had something to do with the mother's choice.


Probably did.....does that give her the right to offend other passengers and/or employees?


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Message 463878 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 463876.  
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I seem to recall a post from you that indicated exactly that.


Then you too are obviously guilty of reading more than what I have posted. I said it was indecent, not illegal.


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Message 463879 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 463833.  


If you have ever seen a baby feeding you will realised that the baby covers the breast. There is less visible than on some low cut tops. Why is a blanket need to cover the infants head? And why should a woman be made to feel ashamed for doing something normal and healthy? How are we meant to convince more women to breast feed when they are made to feel like it is some sort of dirty act? Breast milk contains all the antibodies that are needed to protect the child while it's own immune system is getting started. There is little chance of the infant getting sick from breast milk..they child is comforted..and on an airplane that is taking off or landing the child is spared the pain of the change of air pressure in it's ears...which is what doctor's recommend.

If more women take a stand and feed their babies in public people will get used to it and no longer chose to be offended.

It's a natural act and no one should be made to feel ashamed.



I hate to say it, but you sound like a terrorist. "We'll force people into submission".

What's wrong with covering the act with a blanket? The mother gets to breast feed her child, the child get's the benefits of breast feeding, and no one is offended.


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Message 463880 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:24:29 UTC

Shouldn't all good conservatives be making Thanksgiving preparations?
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Message 463881 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:24:41 UTC - in response to Message 463865.  

I don't see anything wrong with breastfeeding, parts of women's bodies are created with more purposes than only being pleasurable to men. And women's breasts are created to feed babies with.

What I do have a problem with is changing diapers on babies in the public space, specially if there's "filling" in the diaper. I'll at any time prefer to be spared for that stimulation of my olfactory sense.



What's the difference? Isn't that a natural act and part of the bonding process between mother and child? Or does that excuse only apply to breast feeding?

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Message 463882 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 463880.  
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Shouldn't all good conservatives be making Thanksgiving preparations?


Not my year to host....

Is this another attempt at hijacking my thread?

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Message 463883 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:26:20 UTC - in response to Message 463881.  

I don't see anything wrong with breastfeeding, parts of women's bodies are created with more purposes than only being pleasurable to men. And women's breasts are created to feed babies with.

What I do have a problem with is changing diapers on babies in the public space, specially if there's "filling" in the diaper. I'll at any time prefer to be spared for that stimulation of my olfactory sense.



What's the difference? Isn't that a natural act and part of the bonding process between mother and child? Or does that excuse only apply to breast feeding?

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Please point out for us in Rush Limbaugh's scientific works "The Ways Things Out to Be" or "See, I Told You So!" where he found/proved wiping the doo-doo to be an act of bonding.
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Please point out for us in Rush Limbaugh's scientific works "The Ways Things Out to Be" or "See, I Told You So!" where he found/proved wiping the doo-doo to be an act of bonding.


Show me where Micheal Moore told you it wasn't.


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Please point out for us in Rush Limbaugh's scientific works "The Ways Things Out to Be" or "See, I Told You So!" where he found/proved wiping the doo-doo to be an act of bonding.


Show me where Micheal Moore told you it wasn't.


Ha! Another one fooled!!!
I've never read or seen anything by Michael Moore.
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Message 463890 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:31:12 UTC

I see conservatives have as much difficulty with having absurdity being demonstrated by being absurd as the liberals do.
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Message 463891 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:32:44 UTC

Greetings all,

I am beginning to see a problem.

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Message 463892 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:33:07 UTC - in response to Message 463887.  



Please point out for us in Rush Limbaugh's scientific works "The Ways Things Out to Be" or "See, I Told You So!" where he found/proved wiping the doo-doo to be an act of bonding.


Show me where Micheal Moore told you it wasn't.


Ha! Another one fooled!!!
I've never read or seen anything by Michael Moore.


What a coincidence.

I don't read or care about talk show host opinions.....but you still have not shown how taking care of all natural actions of a child to not be part of the bonding process.


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Message 463893 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 463892.  



Please point out for us in Rush Limbaugh's scientific works "The Ways Things Out to Be" or "See, I Told You So!" where he found/proved wiping the doo-doo to be an act of bonding.


Show me where Micheal Moore told you it wasn't.


Ha! Another one fooled!!!
I've never read or seen anything by Michael Moore.


What a coincidence.

I don't read or care about talk show host opinions.....but you still have not shown how taking care of all natural actions of a child to not be part of the bonding process.


I'll leave that sort of thing to everybody's good friend, Chuck, the man who thinks he knows what proof is.
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Message 463894 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:36:08 UTC - in response to Message 463893.  
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I'll leave that sort of thing to everybody's good friend, Chuck, the man who thinks he knows what proof is.


So what you are saying is that you chose to argue a point that you can't prove....


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Message 463896 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:38:15 UTC - in response to Message 463894.  



I'll leave that sort of thing to everybody's good friend, Chuck, the man who thinks he knows what proof is.


So what you are saying is that you chose to argue a point that you can't prove....


So what I'm saying is I'm not in the argument and nobody will be able to "prove" anything.
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Message 463899 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 463896.  
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So what I'm saying is I'm not in the argument and nobody will be able to "prove" anything.



Ahhh yes. My Daddy used to ask me (when I was in trouble) if I thought he was talking to me just to hear himself talk.

I guess it's true in your case.

BTW, I can prove that she was removed from the airplane as a direct result of her actions.


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Message 463900 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:41:17 UTC - in response to Message 463881.  

I don't see anything wrong with breastfeeding, parts of women's bodies are created with more purposes than only being pleasurable to men. And women's breasts are created to feed babies with.

What I do have a problem with is changing diapers on babies in the public space, specially if there's "filling" in the diaper. I'll at any time prefer to be spared for that stimulation of my olfactory sense.



What's the difference? Isn't that a natural act and part of the bonding process between mother and child? Or does that excuse only apply to breast feeding?

:)


There is a lot of bonding between mother and child going on in a nursing situation, and a lot of the baby's development happen there, and while being fed. The baby's brain develops and the early psychological development start with the eye contact in these situations. Babies without these kind of stimulations suffer from it in their further development.

What I'm talking about is common courtesy towards others. Nursing and diaper changing is best done in the bathroom or in special nursing rooms, where I also have seen chairs for mothers to sit on and breastfeed. Some women may find it awkward themselves to be stared at. I had a girlfriend, who had a baby which she breastfed, and she told me that she felt embarrassed by all the men who stared at her breast, while she was breastfeeding. So some men seem to be unable to distinguish the functions of the different parts of a woman's body, as they seem to sexualize breasts, even when they are used for their primary function, to feed the offspring.


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Message 463901 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 463900.  
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There is a lot of bonding between mother and child going on in a nursing situation, and a lot of the baby's development happen there, and while being fed. The baby's brain develops and the early psychological development start with the eye contact in these situations. Babies without these kind of stimulations suffer from it in their further development.

What I'm talking about is common courtesy towards others. Nursing and diaper changing is best done in the bathroom or in special nursing rooms, where I also have seen chairs for mothers to sit on and breastfeed. Some women may find it awkward themselves to be stared at. I had a girlfriend, who had a baby which she breastfed, and she told me that she felt embarrassed by all the men who stared at her breast, while she was breastfeeding. So some men seem to be unable to distinguish the functions of the different parts of a woman's body, as they seem to sexualize breasts, even when they are used for their primary function, to feed the offspring.



I'm not disagreeing with you Fuzzy. I don't think people should change diapers in public either, even though it is unavoidable in some cases.

I'm merely using the "standard excuse" against you to show the hypocrisy of it.



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Message 463902 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:49:05 UTC
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I say it shouldn't be a problem to breast feed in public. It's not something that's obscene. Now if a person was peeing it would be different.
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Message 463903 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 0:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 463900.  

I don't see anything wrong with breastfeeding, parts of women's bodies are created with more purposes than only being pleasurable to men. And women's breasts are created to feed babies with.

What I do have a problem with is changing diapers on babies in the public space, specially if there's "filling" in the diaper. I'll at any time prefer to be spared for that stimulation of my olfactory sense.



What's the difference? Isn't that a natural act and part of the bonding process between mother and child? Or does that excuse only apply to breast feeding?

:)


There is a lot of bonding between mother and child going on in a nursing situation, and a lot of the baby's development happen there, and while being fed. The baby's brain develops and the early psychological development start with the eye contact in these situations. Babies without these kind of stimulations suffer from it in their further development.

What I'm talking about is common courtesy towards others. Nursing and diaper changing is best done in the bathroom or in special nursing rooms, where I also have seen chairs for mothers to sit on and breastfeed. Some women may find it awkward themselves to be stared at. I had a girlfriend, who had a baby which she breastfed, and she told me that she felt embarrassed by all the men who stared at her breast, while she was breastfeeding. So some men seem to be unable to distinguish the functions of the different parts of a woman's body, as they seem to sexualize breasts, even when they are used for their primary function, to feed the offspring.


Greetings Fuzzy,

Very well put, thank you. I, for one, do not fall into that category. I consider it rude and inconsiderate to stare at a woman who is breast feeding. And, as Es99 stated, the babies head covers most of the breast anyway. Hence, there is nothing to see. Until my next visit.... (-:<

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