Continued from the Closed thread.

If you don't want to respond, then don't....but don't expect ME to stop proving you wrong just because you don't want to read it...

The opinions of a flight attendant have to reflect her employer and their policy's
Her personal opinion should not be expressed while on duty.

As far as your arguments are concerned they are always frivolous and
have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

To further discuss this topic with you is a waste of time.

I'm not sure what country YOU live in, but no where in America do the opinions of employees have to reflect those of their employer or organization....but since we're on the issue, her opinion DOES reflect that of her employer. A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way, that doesn't bother others. It doesn't say 10 others, it doesn't say flight attendants excluded. One person, regardless of their race, color, creed, OR job is sufficient to meet the requirements.

As for my arguments, frivolous or not, you have yet to disprove them, you only offer a differing opinion.

You are right about one thing, "discussing" the issue IS a waste of time as long as you have no evidence to support your opinion.

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Do you have fun.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

The opinions of a flight attendant have to reflect her employer and their policy's
Her personal opinion should not be expressed while on duty.

As far as your arguments are concerned they are always frivolous and
have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

To further discuss this topic with you is a waste of time.

I'm not sure what country YOU live in, but no where in America do the opinions of employees have to reflect those of their employer or organization....but since we're on the issue, her opinion DOES reflect that of her employer.A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way, that doesn't bother others

As for my arguments, frivolous or not, you have yet to disprove them, you only offer a differing opinion.

You are right about one thing, "discussing" the issue IS a waste of time as long as you have no evidence to support your opinion.

Employment in most states of the US is at will (you can be fired for any reason at any time). One of the reasons quoted for firings is that the opinion expressed on the job do not reflect the opinions of the employer. I have seen this reason quoted more than once. You can only express opinions opposed to those of your employer on your own time, not theirs.

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BOINC WIKI

Do you have fun.

I'm just getting geared up for my 4 1/2 day vacation :)

BTW, is that an attempt at hijacking my thread?

:)

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You are entitled to your opinion, however, employment in the US is usually at will (the employer can let people go for any reason at all). One that I have seen quoted more than once is that the opinion or actions on the job was in conflict with the opinions of the employer. In other words, you can have a different opinion than your employer, but you may not be allowed to express it in public on their time.

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BOINC WIKI

Do you have fun.

I'm just getting geared up for my 4 1/2 day vacation :)

BTW, is that an attempt at hijacking my thread?

:)

sure not.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

The opinions of a flight attendant have to reflect her employer and their policy's
Her personal opinion should not be expressed while on duty.

As far as your arguments are concerned they are always frivolous and
have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

To further discuss this topic with you is a waste of time.

I'm not sure what country YOU live in, but no where in America do the opinions of employees have to reflect those of their employer or organization....but since we're on the issue, her opinion DOES reflect that of her employer.A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way, that doesn't bother others

As for my arguments, frivolous or not, you have yet to disprove them, you only offer a differing opinion.

You are right about one thing, "discussing" the issue IS a waste of time as long as you have no evidence to support your opinion.

Employment in most states of the US is at will (you can be fired for any reason at any time). One of the reasons quoted for firings is that the opinion expressed on the job do not reflect the opinions of the employer. I have seen this reason quoted more than once. You can only express opinions opposed to those of your employer on your own time, not theirs.

As you may or may not have noticed, her opinion DID reflect that of her employer and she was not fired.

In response to your post, I have never heard of anyone being fired over an opinion. An action, yes. An opinion, never. Do you have proof?

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Brainsmashr..thank you for taking the discussion from the closed thread to your own thread. It might be helpful if you renamed it so we know what the topic is. :-)

I wish I understood more about what the Air Stewardess found so offensive. I've breast fed many times on planes. The doctors often recommend it because it stops the painful pressure in the ears for the baby. I think a screaming baby on a plane would be much worse to the other passengers than a baby just doing what is natural. I've breast fed in public many times with both my children up until they were 2 and I've never had so much as a funny look or a complaint. I'm rather baffled by the story.

I do not understand what is so bad about a mother feeding her baby.

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Nothing wrong with breast feeding, but there is a time and place for everything and a crowded airplane in front of hundreds of people, in my opinion, is no where close to "the place".

Simply put, sitting in the back corner is not being discreet, while covering the child and the action with a blanket would have been perfectly acceptable.

P.S. I no longer have the option to edit the initial post, so I can't change the name.

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We in the other side of the world will never understand that.

I could tell you storys Es you would never understand.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

Greetings all,

I have been witness to several babies being breast fed in public. I was not appalled nor were any others in the vacinity. It is a naturally occuring event in a mother/baby bonding.

I can understand how some will be against such an act simply because they are so wrapped up in their own egotistical short comings that they cannot find the compassion to accept such a natural act. Until my next visit.... (-:<

Dif-tor heh smusma -- Live Long and Prosper \\V/_

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

This is the Law
The airline has to follow the law.
The employee of the airline has to follow the law.
The so called act was committed in the sate of Vermont.

No Personal opinions or Corporate Policy's supersede the Law.

Vt. Acts, Chap. No. 117 (2002) finds that breastfeeding a child is an important, basic and natural act of nurture that should be encouraged in the interest of enhancing maternal, child and family health. The law allows a mother may breastfeed her child in any place of public accommodation in which the mother and child would otherwise have a legal right to be. The law directs the human rights commission to develop and distribute materials that provide information regarding a woman's legal right to breastfeed her child in a place of public accommodation. (S.B. 156)

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Nothing wrong with breast feeding, but there is a time and place for everything and a crowded airplane in front of hundreds of people, in my opinion, is no where close to "the place".

Simply put, sitting in the back corner is not being discreet, while covering the child and the action with a blanket would have been perfectly acceptable.

P.S. I no longer have the option to edit the initial post, so I can't change the name.

Regarding time, I do believe the article mentioned the flight was already 3 hours late in departing. I would not be surprised if that had something to do with the mother's choice.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

Nothing wrong with breast feeding, but there is a time and place for everything and a crowded airplane in front of hundreds of people, in my opinion, is no where close to "the place".

Simply put, sitting in the back corner is not being discreet, while covering the child and the action with a blanket would have been perfectly acceptable.

P.S. I no longer have the option to edit the initial post, so I can't change the name.

If you have ever seen a baby feeding you will realised that the baby covers the breast. There is less visible than on some low cut tops. Why is a blanket need to cover the infants head? And why should a woman be made to feel ashamed for doing something normal and healthy? How are we meant to convince more women to breast feed when they are made to feel like it is some sort of dirty act? Breast milk contains all the antibodies that are needed to protect the child while it's own immune system is getting started. There is little chance of the infant getting sick from breast milk..they child is comforted..and on an airplane that is taking off or landing the child is spared the pain of the change of air pressure in it's ears...which is what doctor's recommend.

If more women take a stand and feed their babies in public people will get used to it and no longer chose to be offended.

It's a natural act and no one should be made to feel ashamed.

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Reality Internet Personality

Uhm... excuse my squirrelly ignorance, but is breastfeeding really a problem?

IMO it's the breastleering what's the issue.

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[IMO it's the breastleering what's the issue.]
BINGO we have a winner!

....but don't expect ME to stop proving you wrong just because you don't want to read it...
? exactly how did you prove anyone wrong. all you did is read the story in the news not the complaint.

I don't see anything wrong with breastfeeding, parts of women's bodies are created with more purposes than only being pleasurable to men. And women's breasts are created to feed babies with.

What I do have a problem with is changing diapers on babies in the public space, specially if there's "filling" in the diaper. I'll at any time prefer to be spared for that stimulation of my olfactory sense.

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"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

This is the Law
The airline has to follow the law.
The employee of the airline has to follow the law.
The so called act was committed in the sate of Vermont.

No Personal opinions or Corporate Policy's supersede the Law.

Vt. Acts, Chap. No. 117 (2002) finds that breastfeeding a child is an important, basic and natural act of nurture that should be encouraged in the interest of enhancing maternal, child and family health. The law allows a mother may breastfeed her child in any place of public accommodation in which the mother and child would otherwise have a legal right to be. The law directs the human rights commission to develop and distribute materials that provide information regarding a woman's legal right to breastfeed her child in a place of public accommodation. (S.B. 156)

Who said she broke the law or that she should not be allowed to breast feed her child in public?

You see, this is what happens when you think you know what someone is saying instead of actually reading what they have to say.

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This is the Law
The airline has to follow the law.
The employee of the airline has to follow the law.
The so called act was committed in the sate of Vermont.

No Personal opinions or Corporate Policy's supersede the Law.

Vt. Acts, Chap. No. 117 (2002) finds that breastfeeding a child is an important, basic and natural act of nurture that should be encouraged in the interest of enhancing maternal, child and family health. The law allows a mother may breastfeed her child in any place of public accommodation in which the mother and child would otherwise have a legal right to be. The law directs the human rights commission to develop and distribute materials that provide information regarding a woman's legal right to breastfeed her child in a place of public accommodation. (S.B. 156)

Who said she broke the law or that she should not be allowed to breast feed her child in public?

You see, this is what happens when you think you know what someone is saying instead of actually reading what they have to say.

I seem to recall a post from you that indicated exactly that.

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BOINC WIKI