GRUB and LILO are both boot loaders as in multi OS booting. GRUB is rated very highly. LILO is harder to setup and use but I don't think it's much different.

the default choice is "lilo with graphical menu", I think I shall pick that one. Not that I know a Grub from a Lilo. Whatcha think?

Mrs. LiLo is a pain in the rear and should only be used when GRUB doesn't work.
GRUB plays more nicely with the automated update features of Linux.


Regards Hans

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Thanks,

I'm Grubbing with graphical.

stay tuned for more....exciting, action packed adventures....

ooooh, rebooted to HDA1 and am now configuring.

And running, Seti is. Est 39:22:06 to completion. It never used to take that long, so I'll be watching. I'll do a few for my record keeping then figure out the optimized part.

Deadline 17 Dec 2006 5:02:01 UTC - you'll make it!

They would give you a nice tough one to get you started, wouldn't they!

OK, It's just sitting on my desk (as I have NO case for it). I've unplugged the mouse, keyboard, and monitor and fired my AMD64 3700 back up. Some time I'm going to have to get Realvnc installed and I'll be removing the CD/dvd upon next boot. now to start thinking of the new wood frame I'll build to house this and other new critters to my new farm.

OK, It's just sitting on my desk (as I have NO case for it). ... Some time I'm going to have to get Realvnc installed and I'll be removing the CD/dvd upon next boot. ... to my new farm.

Good stuff!

But which distro? The bootup options sounds like you're playing with Mandriva...

The two bootloaders Lilo and Grub both work well. You get a choice for if you have a preference or for if one or the other doesn't work for some rare reason.

And if you don't mind diving into the command-line, you can easily connect across using a text terminal window and ssh.

There's lots on the various ways to run Boinc on Linux. The question is more whether one of the seti groups have written a nice clear step-by-step "Howto" for what to set up?

Happy crunchin',
Martin

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mandriva-one-2007-free-gnome, I mentioned this earlier. Is it not what you're asking for? If not, where do I find that info?

thanks for all your help martin

Mine was easy, it automatically downloaded to "desktop". I opened terminal, typed SU. Then sh boinc_5.6.4_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh and it created the boinc folder on my desktop. Then I clicked on the boinc icon, then the manager Icon. It asked me to attach, I did, it runs.

I'm getting bored just sitting here, so I think I'll plug the peripherals back in and try to get realvnc working with the RPM version.

mandriva-one-2007-free-gnome, I mentioned this earlier. Is it not what you're asking for? If not, where do I find that info?

Sorry, that was a long time ago!

Yep, the "mandriva-one-2007-free-gnome" clearly explains all. BTW: The "free" bit just describes that there are no proprietary drivers anywhere in there in that all the software is covered by 'free to use and distribute' licences.

thanks for all your help martin

You're welcome. I'm still way behind your previous incarnation's good efforts over on the other forums!

Mine was easy, it automatically downloaded to "desktop". I opened terminal, typed SU. Then sh boinc_5.6.4_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh and it created the boinc folder on my desktop. Then I clicked on the boinc icon, then the manager Icon. It asked me to attach, I did, it runs.

Yep, that sounds as it should be.

You should be able to set Gnome to automatically start boinc when you log in. I'll let a Gnome expert point you in the right direction for that. (I stay on the command line or on KDE.)

I'm getting bored just sitting here, so I think I'll plug the peripherals back in and try to get realvnc working with the RPM version.

Oh nooooooo!

Just when its working it then gets tweaked into oblivion!!!! ;-)

Use the "configure your computer" to install new software unless you've a good idea what is happening. The RPMs specific to Mandriva have Mandriva specific tweaks to keep things tidy. You should find all the main packages available. There's also a couple of sites with instructions of how to setup the details for where to get additional software.


Have fun,
Martin

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Lovely, I'm not sure how, but I did log in/out of mmciastro to Root and back a few times, but I did something to cause the deadline for my first wu to change years to 1901. The messages tab now shows:

Mon 20 Nov 2006 09:15:59 PM EST|SETI@home|Task 17jn03aa.21148.13297.354830.3.195_0 is 134747.88 days overdue.
Mon 20 Nov 2006 09:15:59 PM EST|SETI@home|You may not get credit for it. Consider aborting it.

I'm only an hour away from finishing it, so I'll let her ride.

I've spent 4 hours trying to find instructions on how to install realvnc onto this(note: there is a "readme" which gives some general directions, but I can't print it since the printers are network printers and I don't feel like fighting the location and cable issues) and also a temp monitor. I'm finding nothing specifically for my gnome version, and am thinking of dumping this and going to Suse 10. My reasoning is that it has 5 discs and might contain more drivers and stuff.

Currently the back and forward buttons on my mouse don't work, I can't seem to install realvnc, or a temp monitor. All critical to this doing what I want.

Lovely, I'm not sure how, but I did log in/out of mmciastro to Root and back a few times, but I did something to cause the deadline for my first wu to change years to 1901. The messages tab now shows:

Mon 20 Nov 2006 09:15:59 PM EST|SETI@home|Task 17jn03aa.21148.13297.354830.3.195_0 is 134747.88 days overdue.
Mon 20 Nov 2006 09:15:59 PM EST|SETI@home|You may not get credit for it. Consider aborting it.

I'm only an hour away from finishing it, so I'll let her ride.

I guess you changed the system clock.

Aside: Best is to have your BIOS set to UTC (GMT) and then correctly set your timezone for wherever you are. You will also get daylight saving applied automatically.

I've spent 4 hours trying to find instructions on how to install realvnc onto this(note: there is a "readme" which gives some general directions, but I can't print it since the printers are network printers and I don't feel like fighting the location and cable issues) and also a temp monitor. I'm finding nothing specifically for my gnome version, and am thinking of dumping this and going to Suse 10. My reasoning is that it has 5 discs and might contain more drivers and stuff.

Currently the back and forward buttons on my mouse don't work, I can't seem to install realvnc, or a temp monitor. All critical to this doing what I want.

And all critical to telling the system what you have. For example, tell it what type of mouse you are using in the "configure your system" stuff.

The automatics are very good for getting the basics going. You have to give a little guidence for the frilly bits...

If you're running a normal network printer or a shared printer even, then the setup printing in "configure your computer" should quickly find that.

To get the extra stuff, that's where you need to tell it where to look for all the extras! There's a 4.7 GByte DVD you can download if you really want. There's also a 4 cd version.

Or:

For most Mandrake/Mandriva distros, you can set up to retrieve from the depositories by going to Easyurpmi and following the instructions. "urpmi" is the main package manager interface used on Mandrake. Mandriva will be moving over to a new system called "smarty" sometime.

For your Mandriva-One, note that it is actually a LiveCD of Mandriva 2006. So, once you have the network up and running and you can surf the web, then:

Open the Mandriva Control Center, and go to the Software Management tab. Click the link titled 'Select from where software packages are downloaded when updating the system'. Click 'yes' when asked if it is OK to continue. Now click the 'Add...' button on the right hand side of the new screen. When asked whether to add 'Official updates' or 'Distribution sources', click 'Distribution sources'. Click 'Yes' in reply to the question about the mirror list. When the mirror list appears, choose a mirror close to your geographical location. Wait for the process to complete.

That gets the official updates. Use Easyurpmi for the others (select for "2006"). Keep off the "cooker" stuff! There's more than enough goodies in the free and community and official areas.

To avoid a bug with (some of?) the download server(s) at the moment, after adding your repository(ies), go to the "Software Management" tab of the Mandriva Control Center, click on "Select from where software packages are downloaded when updating the system", click on "Global Options...", and then change the default downloader from curl to wget.

Then, try not to be too spoilt for choice!


The pointy and clicky bits are far easier than actually trying to explain them! I'm sure you'll see it all.

Happy crunchin',
Martin

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Thanks, I'll got to root and try the urpmi.

first WU DONE, uploaded and reported, credit still pending.

wuid=100482299

Thanks, I'll got to root and try the urpmi.

first WU DONE, uploaded and reported, credit still pending.

wuid=100482299

While you're at it, also install "ntp". It will keep your system time correct by getting info over the internet.

Regards Hans

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While you're at it, also install "ntp". It will keep your system time correct by getting info over the internet.

Regards Hans

already turned on, set to once/day. working on second WU now. Been playing all day pretty much and still haven't gotten even ONE program to work. Still playing. I have found a cpufreq applet and got that to work (well, it keeps listing freq as 1.8Ghz no matter what I change in the bios. Still haven't found a temp program that I can get to work, tried "computertemp-0.9.6" without success, claims a need for python when I ./configure it. Haven't even tried realvnc today. I did get the weather applet to work and configured correctly. lol

baby steps

Try lm-sensors. It doesn't work too well with new mainboards though...

Regards Hans

P.S: After installation, run the "sensors-detect" command line utility. When asked if you want the modules config to be changed, answer "yes".

You can use "Ksensors" with KDE to display the data. There's probably also a Gnome applet for it.


P.P.S: Reboot after installation and setup, or load the listed modules with "modprobe" to get it running manually.
Regards Hans

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... Been playing all day pretty much and still haven't gotten even ONE program to work. Still playing. I have found a cpufreq applet and got that to work ... I did get the weather applet to work and configured correctly. lol

baby steps

Well that sounds like three small things working with the ntp stuff! :-P

If you're wanting to load things up and 'play', then you've gone for a bit of a hard one with the Mandriva LiveCD... It's a limited LiveCD and not intended for tweaking a gazillian apps as it stands.

First is to get the software manager to pickup the applications lists from a depository and then update and install from there. Or go with a DVD version straight off.

Any reason for the Gnome version as opposed to the KDE version? Gnome is more automated but also can be more frustrating if you're 'trying to tweak' and you don't understand exactly what is happening.

lm-sensors is very good for running a daemon to monitor your hardware and a gazillian other things. You also need an application or applet to then display the data that lm-sensors collects.


Errr... Ubuntu is easier... ;-)

Good luck,
and good fun,

Regards,
Martin

( OMG! What have I gone an' done?! )

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Fear not, I'm about to live up to the title of this thread. I was "playing" with the mandriva software toolkit and I don't know what I did, but firefox is gone, along with a dozen or so other menu items.

yeah yeah, laugh it up. I already kind of figured I needed a more full package and thought "I know, I've already downloaded Suse 10.1, I'll just wait for this wu to finish and slap in on there". Then as I started burning the ISO images, I noticed two little groups of letters "X86-64", "hmm, I don't think my P4 1.8 is 64 bit"........ Off to mandriva I go, find and initiate the d/l of the bigger package (turns out it's only 3 discs). "no problem" I think to myself, I have buttloads of cd-r discs. Then I notice the Bit Torrent screen. 2Kb download rate, 13 days remaining. YIKES. From my previous experience Mandriva products didn't seem to have as many seeds as Suse, so.....Off to suse I go and start the d/l of suse 10.1 (without the X86-64 bit). Now both are downloading.

Martin, as to why Gnome, I guess it was the first I picked up, and it wasn't KDE(which is what the other linux product-knoppix/overclockix-that I'd tried before). It might also be that it was the cd on top of the stack, as I'd burned both the KDE and Gnome because I didn't know the difference.... Still don't.

hmmm, there's a thought, why not slap the KDE disc in and see???

02:14:34 remaining to WU 2

An important note for AMD (K/X)Ubuntu users. By default, Ubuntu installations throttle processors that allow it. AMDs fall into this category. To get max performance, you need to add CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor to the toolbar. The command to enable changing to max performance is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets".

More can be read about this here:

http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/

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