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Message 461250 - Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 21:23:23 UTC - in response to Message 461230.  

Yet Es would never herself move to, say, the U.S. for such a crazy idea. ;)

He'd have to be a very special man for me to consider that. :)
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Message 461252 - Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 21:31:13 UTC - in response to Message 461250.  

Yet Es would never herself move to, say, the U.S. for such a crazy idea. ;)

He'd have to be a very special man for me to consider that. :)


Sorry. Don't know any. LOL!!!
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Message 461264 - Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 21:57:25 UTC - in response to Message 461245.  

Almost all dating websites, like Americansingles, Yahoo Personals, Match.com, etc, have hundreds, if not thousands of scammer profiles on them. There are a very few that check out their clients IP addresses, or billing information to ensure they are not fraudulent. They are the exception by far.


There are obvious bogus profiles. How many times does a person, on average, receive an e-mail from the "user" behind that profile? I have not received many, and I sure don't have the resources while in grad school to bring some woman over from the Philipines or Russia. LOL. In other words, if they're looking for a ticket to a green card, they're barking up the wrong tree!


See your point completely. But the way they work it.... Lets say you click on this beautiful womans profile, she is withing your local area, looks perfect, profile information says she is wonderful, and you initiate contact. You wonder why you have never seen her on the street, but that goes away, when she starts writing back to you.

She is a model or a consultant, or an engineer, or whatever, and for some reason, whether work related or family, or some other VALID reason, is in Nigeria or West Africa.... But will be coming home soon. AND she is quite interested in meeting you. Lets say this goes on for a week or a month or 6 months. Everything seems to be ok, she professes her love for you, wants to bear your children, etc. You have feelings for her too. Only problem is, she is 10,000 miles away. You try to resolve that problem. She only needs a little help with her plane ticket. So, you run down to Western Union and send her $900. Everything is great, she will be here tomorrow. She even sends her airline itinerary to you, with ticket numbers and all. You go wait at the airport for hours.... She does not arrive. You are now deeply concerned. what happened to her? Well, You rush home, to find that she has been mugged or had an auto accident on the way to the airport, or some other life threatining tragedy has occurred. She now has no ticket, no passport, or is in a hospital in a coma. You have already committed yourself to this relationship. You FEEL empathy for her, obligated to help. Whats it going to take? More money. Eventually those red flags go off, and you wonder if you have been scammed. You do a little search for lets say Nigeria and Scam..... about a hundred million results. You get that sinking feeling. Not only did she break your heart, but you are penniless too. You feel ashamed for having fallen for a scam. You get angry, and look for a way to get back at them. You contact some private investigation agency in Nigeria.... They promise they can GET the scammer for you. All it takes is a little more money. After a while you realize that this is another scam too. It just gets worse and worse.

This happens to thousands of people in the US alone, every year.

It very nearly happened to me. I was lucky enough to figure it out before I lost any money.

I found a great group of people in a Yahoo group, dedicated to educating people about these scams, and helping out those that have been victims. They have been on Dr. Phil, many newscasts around the country, and had countless newspaper articles written. They do not make any money for doing it.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancescams (NO CHARGE)


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Message 461283 - Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 22:18:08 UTC - in response to Message 461264.  

See your point completely. But the way they work it.... Lets say you click on this beautiful womans profile, she is withing your local area, looks perfect, profile information says she is wonderful, and you initiate contact. You wonder why you have never seen her on the street, but that goes away, when she starts writing back to you.

She is a model or a consultant, or an engineer, or whatever, and for some reason, whether work related or family, or some other VALID reason, is in Nigeria or West Africa.... But will be coming home soon. AND she is quite interested in meeting you. Lets say this goes on for a week or a month or 6 months. Everything seems to be ok, she professes her love for you, wants to bear your children, etc. You have feelings for her too. Only problem is, she is 10,000 miles away.


1) The area I live in is small, but still has several thousand people. It is therefore, of course, possible to not "see her on the street." However, I can generally tell. If she's in her early 20s and says she's currently studying in college (and usually even goes so far to list one of the two institutions of higher education in this area ... though that probably provides too much information), I can get a feel for whether the profile and pictures make sense based on the university women I see around here. If older, well, they tend not to have the college education or only some college, and there's (unfortunately) a difference in looks.

2) Any woman who is claiming love for me so soon, and proclaiming a desire to "bear my children" so soon ... is either desperate or lying.

3) On the flip-side of desperation, even if one does not want something so fast, who would, after a time, not realize that it is all a fantasy based just on the distances alone?!? People using online dating services should set themselves distance requirements. 30 miles, 180 miles, 300 miles ... whatever makes sense for your lifestyle and resources. If the profile says she's in your area, but the e-mail provides different info, drop that one like a hot potato!
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Message 461285 - Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 22:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 461283.  

See your point completely. But the way they work it.... Lets say you click on this beautiful womans profile, she is withing your local area, looks perfect, profile information says she is wonderful, and you initiate contact. You wonder why you have never seen her on the street, but that goes away, when she starts writing back to you.

She is a model or a consultant, or an engineer, or whatever, and for some reason, whether work related or family, or some other VALID reason, is in Nigeria or West Africa.... But will be coming home soon. AND she is quite interested in meeting you. Lets say this goes on for a week or a month or 6 months. Everything seems to be ok, she professes her love for you, wants to bear your children, etc. You have feelings for her too. Only problem is, she is 10,000 miles away.


1) The area I live in is small, but still has several thousand people. It is therefore, of course, possible to not "see her on the street." However, I can generally tell. If she's in her early 20s and says she's currently studying in college (and usually even goes so far to list one of the two institutions of higher education in this area ... though that probably provides too much information), I can get a feel for whether the profile and pictures make sense based on the university women I see around here. If older, well, they tend not to have the college education or only some college, and there's (unfortunately) a difference in looks.

2) Any woman who is claiming love for me so soon, and proclaiming a desire to "bear my children" so soon ... is either desperate or lying.

3) On the flip-side of desperation, even if one does not want something so fast, who would, after a time, not realize that it is all a fantasy based just on the distances alone?!? People using online dating services should set themselves distance requirements. 30 miles, 180 miles, 300 miles ... whatever makes sense for your lifestyle and resources. If the profile says she's in your area, but the e-mail provides different info, drop that one like a hot potato!


Exactly!

But..... Not everyone is automatically suspicious of their online friends. They tell very believable and compelling stories. They are professional criminals and have been doing their scamming jobs for years. Not always that easy for someone that doesn't know about them to spot. Therefore Millions are lost each year to these scumbag scammers.
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Message 461289 - Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 22:35:08 UTC
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I, (for one), would NOT be Married if it weren't for my Church's On-Line "Dating/Matching Service" Website. It was only through this on-line dating Site that I met my Wife. Prior to using that Site, I did not date at all; I had virtually little to no prospects for dating/meeting anyone both inside and outside of Church. Therefore; on-line dating sites serve their purpose(s), people just need to be very careful on ANY of these dating sites. (Happily Married now for approximately 2.5 years, and counting...)
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Message 461295 - Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 22:39:53 UTC - in response to Message 461289.  

I, (for one), would NOT be Married if it weren't for my Church's On-Line "Dating/Matching Service" Website. It was only through this on-line dating Site that I met my Wife. Prior to using that Site, I did not date at all; I had virtually little to no prospects for dating/meeting anyone both inside and outside of Church. Therefore; on-line dating sites serve their purpose(s), people just need to be very careful on ANY of these dating sites. (Happily Married now for approximately 2.5 years, and counting...)


See, there are some really decent people on them. Some of the religious sites have lots of scammers too though. You are very correct that people need to be careful.

Congrats on the 2.5 years!!!!!!
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Message 461485 - Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 5:45:00 UTC - in response to Message 461295.  

If you or someone you know, is in contact with someone in a foreign country, like Nigeria, West Africa, or Ghana, and they want help, monetary, or to cash checks and forward the money, or to re-ship packages, please go to or refer your friend to http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/romancescams for help, information and support.

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Message 461673 - Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 15:33:41 UTC

I fear this thread is a scam.
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Message 461774 - Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 16:59:43 UTC - in response to Message 461673.  

I fear this thread is a scam.



Feel free to visit the group. The FBI keeps an eye on what goes on there. The link to the FBI site that deals with this type of scam is www.lookstoogoodtobetrue.com
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Message 462011 - Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 21:30:57 UTC

Popular subject, only had this thread up for a day, and viewed 270 times so far!

That is fantastic. Getting the word out about these scams!
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Message 463324 - Posted: 22 Nov 2006, 6:47:20 UTC

Over 14,000 members in 15 months, that joined the group, for help, support and information about these scams.

Over 6,000 current members, helping to spread the word, so that you know about the scams, and wont become a victim.

Have a wonderful day!

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Message 463958 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 2:24:18 UTC

Dr. Phil is having a show, on Thanksgiving Day, that deals with scammers.
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Message 465084 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 21:00:23 UTC

Dr. Phil was quite rude to the scam victims. Showed them no compassion whatsoever. A lot of the information they quoted on the show, came from the Romancescams group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancescams/ - Over 14000 members that were victims of this type of scam. Currently 6000 active members, trying to do the public a service, and spread the word about these scams.

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Message 465304 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 3:05:02 UTC - in response to Message 465084.  
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Dr. Phil was quite rude to the scam victims. Showed them no compassion whatsoever. A lot of the information they quoted on the show, came from the Romancescams group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancescams/ - Over 14000 members that were victims of this type of scam. Currently 6000 active members, trying to do the public a service, and spread the word about these scams.

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Haven't seen the show, but here's the link to it: http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/760


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Message 466212 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 5:34:49 UTC - in response to Message 461485.  
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If you or someone you know, is in contact with someone in a foreign country, like Nigeria, West Africa, or Ghana, and they want help, monetary, or to cash checks and forward the money, or to re-ship packages, please go to or refer your friend to http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/romancescams for help, information and support.

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Add to the list the nations that were part of the FSU (Former Soviet Union - Romania, Russia, etc...)

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Message 466223 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 6:13:15 UTC - in response to Message 466212.  

Absolutely correct. There are a bunch of scammers coming from the FSU. They are also being caught by the authorities there.

The romance Scams are widespread.

For help, support and information, please visit this Yahoo Group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancescams

If you think it is a scam, it probably is. Think with your head and not with your heart. The red flags are always there.

Anyone asking for money online, when you have never met them, is pretty much a scam. You know this.
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