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Message 451270 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 11:25:29 UTC
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Saddam Hussein has been convicted of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death by hanging.

The Verdicts:

  • Saddam Hussein, former Iraqi president: found guilty and sentenced to death

  • Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, Saddam Hussein's half-brother: found guilty and sentenced to death

  • Awad Hamed al-Bandar, Chief Judge of Revolutionary Court: found guilty and sentenced to death

  • Taha Yasin Ramadan, former Iraqi vice-president: found guilty and sentenced to life in jail

  • Abdullah Kadhem Ruaid Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail

  • Abdullah Rawed Mizher, Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail

  • Ali Daeem Ali, Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail

  • Mohammed Azawi Ali, Baath official: acquitted



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Message 451295 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 13:26:21 UTC

WOuld have been so much easier if they had just shot him when they found him.
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Message 451297 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 13:29:28 UTC

What has happened to Tariq Aziz?
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Message 451299 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 13:31:38 UTC - in response to Message 451297.  

What has happened to Tariq Aziz?


Yeah, that's what I would like to know.



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Message 451332 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:25:43 UTC
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Now WITHOUT even hinting at trying to start a flame-war ...

Please can someone tell me at what point did this farce of a trial even nudge toward the "Justice" it trumpeted it would deliver?
Saddam Hussein was guilty even BEFORE the trial.
I thought trials - especially ones where the death penalty is a verdict option - were (in sophisticated societies - including the US) supposed to be carried out by ones Peers.
There is not one of Saddam Husseins Peers on the panel that has found him guilty.
There is not a Shia or a Kurd that will ever find him innocent ... even if it could be factually proven that for the last 30 years he was living on a Pacific Island with no telephone, Fax, Snail Mail, or Satellite or other form of communication - including "letter-in-a-bottle".
This trial has been a total travesty of the justice much and often trumpeted by your President. It is Wild West justice from 2 centuries ago. It is NOT civilised, and by being a party to the whole sorry debacle, the US paints itself with the same brush as the uncivilised people who have now declared the death penalty on him.
It is a total abrogation of responsibility by the US for the reasons it went to war in the first place. It is a cynical show trial that should never have been allowed to proceed.
I agree with an earlier poster that it would have been better to have put a bullet into him for "trying to escape", than to allow this farce to go on for as long as it has.
It is yet another example of the parlous way that the US has conducted this military action. It is another example to the World - were ever one needed - of the ineptitude of the US Administration and the callous disregard for the normalities of justice and civilised conduct.
Why was Saddam Hussein, if not shot, just taken to Guantanamo bay, and allowed to rot there?
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Message 451335 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 451332.  
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Please can someone tell me at what point did this farce of a trial even nudge toward the "Justice" it trumpeted it would deliver?

The point was to prove Iraq could be a self-governing democracy with an appropriate legal system.

farcical tTripe.

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Message 451337 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:43:13 UTC - in response to Message 451335.  
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Please can someone tell me at what point did this farce of a trial even nudge toward the "Justice" it trumpeted it would deliver?

The point was to prove Iraq could be a self-governing democracy with an appropriate legal system.

farcical tTripe.

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You think this is an appropriate legal system for the much trumpeted "Democracy" that the US said (at second or third bite) that it wanted to bring to Iraq?
This is NO different to the repressive regime of Saddam Hussein ...
Only different rulers ... different religious chiefs.

If this is an example of the Democracy that the US favours, then I have to admit to being a detractor. Iraq has NOT changed one iota, in this case, and America, far from being bloodless, is steeped in the damnation of it all.

ADDED ... Believe me ... I am NO lover of Saddam Hussein. I met him on 3 occasions and was glad to escape on all three.
But the way he has been treated by American "Justice" is dreadful. It is a shame on a morally bankrupt President and Administration.
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Message 451338 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:44:25 UTC - in response to Message 451335.  
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farcical tTripe.

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Farcical: (?), a. Pertaining to farce; appropriated to farce; ludicrous; unnatural; unreal.

They deny the characters to be farcical, because they are ��tually in in nature. Gay.-- Far"ci*cal*ly, adv. -Far"ci*cal*ness, n.

Farcical: , a. Of or pertaining to the disease called farcy.

See Farcy, n.


. . . now, let's see 'ere - "Does anybody 'ere speak Farsi"

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Message 451339 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:49:04 UTC - in response to Message 451338.  


farcical tTripe.
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Farcical: (?), a. Pertaining to farce; appropriated to farce; ludicrous; unnatural; unreal.
They deny the characters to be farcical, because they are ��tually in in nature. Gay.-- Far"ci*cal*ly, adv. -Far"ci*cal*ness, n.
Farcical: , a. Of or pertaining to the disease called farcy.
See Farcy, n.

. . . now, let's see 'ere - "Does anybody 'ere speak Farsi"

If you mean "Farsi" - which I suppose means the same thing ...
Only every Shia in town!
This proves the point that Saddam Husseins trial has been 'Farsical' from the outset!
It served only to tip a wink at Justice and kill the bast**d anyway!
But there are MANY more ways of killing a cat than choking it with cream.
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Message 451341 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 451337.  

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OK, I gotta spell it out in long words. I think it is absolutely farcical that this trial took place or anything had to happen to prove the guilt of this devil in an Iraqi uniform. That anyone should think Iraq is democratic in any way just now or the foreseeable millenia is difficult to understand, and that it could in any way conduct a fair legal and police system with any semblance of control of the country.... I'll just sum up in Fars.. Cobblers!

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Message 451342 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:55:53 UTC - in response to Message 451339.  
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farcical tTripe.
[edit] added the word 'farcical'

Farcical: (?), a. Pertaining to farce; appropriated to farce; ludicrous; unnatural; unreal.
They deny the characters to be farcical, because they are ��tually in in nature. Gay.-- Far"ci*cal*ly, adv. -Far"ci*cal*ness, n.
Farcical: , a. Of or pertaining to the disease called farcy.
See Farcy, n.

. . . now, let's see 'ere - "Does anybody 'ere speak Farsi"

If you mean "Farsi" - which I suppose means the same thing ...
Only every Shia in town!
This proves the point that Saddam Husseins trial has been 'Farsical' from the outset!
It served only to tip a wink at Justice and kill the bast**d anyway!
But there are MANY more ways of killing a cat than choking it with cream.


Farsi - is the Iranian Language spoken by the Persians (now IRAN) . . . EDIT - farsi IS a very beautiful language - went w/ a lady thaT spoke iT [Mother Tongue]

. . . morn' (afternoon) David - howz shakin' Matey . . . (oops - don't want to 'jack' this Thread :-) )

note: IF skype is 'enabled' - we could 'chat' there . . .

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Message 451343 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 14:57:25 UTC - in response to Message 451341.  

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OK, I gotta spell it out in long words. I think it is absolutely farcical that this trial took place or anything had to happen to prove the guilt of this devil in an Iraqi uniform. That anyone should think Iraq is democratic in any way just now or the foreseeable millenia is difficult to understand, and that it could in any way conduct a fair legal and police system with any semblance of control of the country.... I'll just sum up in Fars.. Cobblers!


. . . understood (prior contextual SIR!!!) 'morn (afternoon) . . .
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Message 451344 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 15:00:50 UTC - in response to Message 451343.  

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OK, I gotta spell it out in long words. I think it is absolutely farcical that this trial took place or anything had to happen to prove the guilt of this devil in an Iraqi uniform. That anyone should think Iraq is democratic in any way just now or the foreseeable millenia is difficult to understand, and that it could in any way conduct a fair legal and police system with any semblance of control of the country.... I'll just sum up in Fars.. Cobblers!


. . . understood (prior contextual SIR!!!) 'morn (afternoon) . . .

'aft to you SIR!, why say one when you can shoot the lot....

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Message 451347 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 15:04:32 UTC - in response to Message 451344.  

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OK, I gotta spell it out in long words. I think it is absolutely farcical that this trial took place or anything had to happen to prove the guilt of this devil in an Iraqi uniform. That anyone should think Iraq is democratic in any way just now or the foreseeable millenia is difficult to understand, and that it could in any way conduct a fair legal and police system with any semblance of control of the country.... I'll just sum up in Fars.. Cobblers!


. . . understood (prior contextual SIR!!!) 'morn (afternoon) . . .

'aft to you SIR!, why say one when you can shoot the lot....


yep = SHOOT 'EM ALL . . . heh? (Does anybody know 'For Sure' thaT's Saddam - or "ONE" of 'is doubles) . . . donnin' flame-proof suit' - of sorts NOW
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Message 451349 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 15:09:06 UTC



ps - just in case (you need a translate - 'ere's onE

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Message 451350 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 15:14:56 UTC

Then I pick up my guitar and play...
Just like yesterday...
And I get on my knees and pray...
We don't get fooled again.

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Message 451351 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 15:16:24 UTC - in response to Message 451350.  

Then I pick up my guitar and play...
Just like yesterday...
And I get on my knees and pray...
We don't get fooled again.

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The sad thing is that the fools are alive

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Message 451370 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 16:04:57 UTC - in response to Message 451299.  
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What has happened to Tariq Aziz?


Yeah, that's what I would like to know.



Me too. His defense has been that Sadaam Hussein has been in charge of all policy. In his last appearance he was wearing a hospital gown.

When do they plan to carry out the executions? Until that date, the risk of westerners being kidnapped as hostages is extemely high. I'd tell any friends there to arm themselves and bunk down in an army base until that's over with.

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Message 451373 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 16:17:03 UTC

Who is responsible for making the trial a farce?
Surely Saddam, his cronies, and his lawyers played a large part in it.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 451379 - Posted: 5 Nov 2006, 16:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 451369.  

Does it even matter to the US hating people here that Saddam signed a presidential decree for the execution of 148 shiites including CHILDREN? 50 of them didn't even make it to the gallows because they were tortured to death.

No, none of that matters. Just any reason to blame and bash the US will do!


now now..don't go tossing logic at the Bush Haters Club...might hurt their wee feelings.

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