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Message 464479 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 22:55:24 UTC

Having problems with the new 5.7.5.32 32 bit windows BOINC client after I copy the files from the zip file I get the following error message. (The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click on OK to terminate the application)
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Message 464485 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:03:51 UTC - in response to Message 464479.  

Having problems with the new 5.7.5.32 32 bit windows BOINC client after I copy the files from the zip file I get the following error message. (The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click on OK to terminate the application)


I'll take a look at it..wait 15 minutes and i'll update the download link...

I'll post here when i uploaded it... still not sure why i doesn't ork for you ..
sorry for all the trouble...



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Message 464488 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:07:44 UTC - in response to Message 464347.  
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return_results_immediately was meant for debugging purposes only. Since it was used for other than that, it was removed from the stock client. It does add load to the servers as a large portion of the time is spent per connection to the scheduler rather than per result.


John....I appreciate your concerns but I see the following. By the way I only crunch for Seti.

Cpu is crunching along and suddenly a real short work unit comes in with a return time that is really close. You know the ones that give 10 to 20 credits or so and don't take long to crunch. I don't have a problem with crunching the new work first or EDF as it is known. Cpu drops what it is doing to crunch the new work unit. This new work unit usually will finish well before it's original estimated time. When this work unit finishes the estimated crunch time for the remaining work units in the cache is suddenly increased NOT decreased. I have seen the remaing cache work times be increased by more than 1 hour for each work unit in the cache! If you have a cache of 4 day's like I carry suddenly you have a cache of 6 day's or more WITHOUT having downloading anything. Now the cpu just keeps on crunching the cache but does not return anything until the cache is down below 4 day's again. In other words it can crunch for day's without contacting Berkeley and returning the finished work.

Seems the predicted time for a work unit can increase by any number of minutes, even more than 60 in one jump but only reduces by a few minutes or even seconds after another work unit is finished.

This is why I like the return_results_immediately function. At least I keep returning finished work while the cache estimated work time is decreased back to the original 4 day estimate.


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Message 464490 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:18:09 UTC - in response to Message 464479.  

Having problems with the new 5.7.5.32 32 bit windows BOINC client after I copy the files from the zip file I get the following error message. (The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click on OK to terminate the application)


I've uploaded a new version... this one runs fine on my dual P3 / 500MHz WinXP machine..

please download it again an report if it works noe.. ( the ziped file is larger than before)....

make sure you refresh your browser and cleanr browser caches !




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Message 464491 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 464488.  


This is why I like the return_results_immediately function. At least I keep returning finished work while the cache estimated work time is decreased back to the original 4 day estimate.

...and your debuging the code ...of course ... ;)


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Message 464493 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:21:33 UTC

I get the same error message with the new zip file
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Message 464496 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:26:38 UTC - in response to Message 464493.  
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I get the same error message with the new zip file


Not sure what happens on your side ... the host i'm trying it on is a P3/500 MHz with Windows XP no service packs applied (tested it on an athlon 64 too worked well ...)

OK now one more try .. i totaly recompile the client ... give me some minutes...
i'll let you know, when i'm done...




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Message 464506 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:40:46 UTC - in response to Message 464496.  

I get the same error message with the new zip file


Not sure what happens on your side ... the host i'm trying it on is a P3/500 MHz with Windows XP no service packs applied (tested it on an athlon 64 too worked well ...)

OK now one more try .. i totaly recompile the client ... give me some minutes...
i'll let you know, when i'm done...



OK onw ...last try ...

5.7.5.32-3 is now on my page ... works well on my dual p3/500 win xp no service packs...

and on my notebook athlon64 xp SP2...


try it or ...





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Message 464522 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:16:26 UTC

Crunch..........I am getting the following error. This occurs on two remote and headless boxes on my LAN so I use the remote login for windows XP.

Could not start the Boinc service on local computer.

Error 14001: This has failed to start because the application configuration is not correct. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.


This using your -3 version also.

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Message 464523 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:17:54 UTC - in response to Message 464468.  

return_results_immediately was meant for debugging purposes only. Since it was used for other than that, it was removed from the stock client. It does add load to the servers as a large portion of the time is spent per connection to the scheduler rather than per result.


Sorry John,

i do debugging... so it's i can use it on my own ... no one is forced to use third party clients & apps...

If you don't like it don't use it ... sorry





I have no problem with you using return_results_immediately, I know that you are developing various clients (and your work is appreciated). The problem is with general use - it does tend to eat resources at the server side.


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Message 464527 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:32:40 UTC

I still get the same error message thanks for the help and your work
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Message 464532 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:42:46 UTC - in response to Message 464488.  

John....I appreciate your concerns but I see the following. By the way I only crunch for Seti.

Cpu is crunching along and suddenly a real short work unit comes in with a return time that is really close. You know the ones that give 10 to 20 credits or so and don't take long to crunch. I don't have a problem with crunching the new work first or EDF as it is known. Cpu drops what it is doing to crunch the new work unit. This new work unit usually will finish well before it's original estimated time. When this work unit finishes the estimated crunch time for the remaining work units in the cache is suddenly increased NOT decreased. I have seen the remaing cache work times be increased by more than 1 hour for each work unit in the cache! If you have a cache of 4 day's like I carry suddenly you have a cache of 6 day's or more WITHOUT having downloading anything. Now the cpu just keeps on crunching the cache but does not return anything until the cache is down below 4 day's again. In other words it can crunch for day's without contacting Berkeley and returning the finished work.

Seems the predicted time for a work unit can increase by any number of minutes, even more than 60 in one jump but only reduces by a few minutes or even seconds after another work unit is finished.

This is why I like the return_results_immediately function. At least I keep returning finished work while the cache estimated work time is decreased back to the original 4 day estimate.


You may have your reasons, but I don't see what is wrong with not contacting the Berkeley servers for over 4 days or more. I have a 7 day cache, and sometimes I don't contact for over 5 or more (sometimes all 7).

Once your computer works through it's cache, it will download more when it needs to. Why insist on keeping the cache full at 4 days for the entire duration? Let BOINC manage the cache and return results when it needs to. That's my opinion.
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Message 464536 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:51:11 UTC - in response to Message 464506.  

I get the same error message with the new zip file


Not sure what happens on your side ... the host i'm trying it on is a P3/500 MHz with Windows XP no service packs applied (tested it on an athlon 64 too worked well ...)

OK now one more try .. i totaly recompile the client ... give me some minutes...
i'll let you know, when i'm done...



OK onw ...last try ...

5.7.5.32-3 is now on my page ... works well on my dual p3/500 win xp no service packs...

and on my notebook athlon64 xp SP2...


try it or ...






Hi Crunch3r, I gave the 32 bit version a try under wine:


prescott1:~/install/crunch3r/boinc# wine boinc.exe
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\zlib1.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library zlib1.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\LIBEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library LIBEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\LIBEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library LIBEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\SSLEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\SSLEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library SSLEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\zlib1.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library zlib1.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library libcurl.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\LIBEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library LIBEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe" failed, status c0000135


The missing libraries listed there might be useful for debugging the Windows issues you see ATM

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Message 464752 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 6:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 464479.  

Having problems with the new 5.7.5.32 32 bit windows BOINC client after I copy the files from the zip file I get the following error message. (The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click on OK to terminate the application)


I'm getting the same problem with (only) one of my 13 windows machines. I tried v3, but no change.

Interestingly enough, I deleted those files, reinstalled (repaired) using 5.4.11. But returned WUs still show as 5.7.5. The Get Info from BOINCmgr says it's really running 5.4.11.

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Message 464774 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 10:37:32 UTC - in response to Message 464752.  

Hi Folks,

sorry for the trouble, but finaly i found out what was going wrong.


The new 5.7.5.32 fixed boinc client is on my page now.






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Message 464895 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 16:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 464774.  

Hi Folks,

sorry for the trouble, but finaly i found out what was going wrong.

The new 5.7.5.32 fixed boinc client is on my page now.


Worked like a charm. Question: For those machines that v1 worked on, do I need to upgrade them? In other words, is there the potential that something will fail over time? Or, since it installed without the issue, I have nothing to worry about? Thanks again!
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Message 464996 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:50:03 UTC - in response to Message 464895.  

Hi Folks,

sorry for the trouble, but finaly i found out what was going wrong.

The new 5.7.5.32 fixed boinc client is on my page now.


Worked like a charm. Question: For those machines that v1 worked on, do I need to upgrade them? In other words, is there the potential that something will fail over time? Or, since it installed without the issue, I have nothing to worry about? Thanks again!


There's nothing to worry about. You can safely use the previous version, if it allready worked for you.






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Message 465046 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 19:17:58 UTC

Thanks Crunch3r works just fine now that fixed all the problems I had.
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Message 465428 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 8:54:47 UTC - in response to Message 464748.  


@ Rom, We have an error that is affecting this XP64 Client and app. Could You please Help on this?


Crunch3r et al,

For those using VS 2005 you'll need to add some additional code to the S@H app which can be found here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/app_debug_win.php#Common0xc000000d

Microsoft redesigned a bunch of stuff to reduce buffer overflows and the like, one of the things they did was enforce parameter validation for the CRT functions used in writing portable applications.

So when you see a 0xc000000d error code with an application that was compiled using VS2005, that is part of the problem.

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Message 465450 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 9:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 464212.  
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Hello Folks,

there's an update for the BOINC clients available my page.

Versions:
5.7.5.32 32 bit Windows
5.7.5.64 64 bit Windows

features:
cpu affinity & return resuls immediately



Hello Crunch3r,

on which Boinc Version I must install your files...
The 5.4.11 or the 5.7.5?

Now I use V5.3.12.tx36 with 'among other things' "delete_overdue"...
You know, if a deadline of a WU is like the date/time it'll be deleted.
It's possible to add/change this feature to delete a WU, because Boinc see it'll not be finished and reported in the deadline?

"process_priority" it's a good feature, or you think it's not needed?
If good, you would like to add this feature too?


Greetings!



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