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消息 381521 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 11:48:10 UTC

Good morning everyone!



The Morning Chess Problem is called "Carpal Tunnel Syndrome".


Enjoy!


White to Move and Mate in two.






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消息 381520 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 11:45:56 UTC - 回复消息 381206.  

Alright, tough guy. Meet the Undefeated, Undisputed, Heavyweight Problem of the World!!!



The Evening Chess Problem is called "All Along The Watchtower".


Enjoy!


White to Move and Mate in four.



Well, let's take a look on this "controversial" problem, for starters, let's post my solution:


1; Rb1xb7+
1a; Kd7-e8 => 2; Rb7-e7 mate
1b; Kd7-c8 => 2; Rb7-c7 mate (and some other variants)
1c; Bc6xb7
2; Qa7xb7+
Kd7-e8 (forced)
3; Be2-h5+
3a; Ne5-f7 => 4; Qb7xf7 mate
3b; Ne5-g6 => 4; Qb7xf7 mate


So, let's see on Robert Brooke's initial solution...
White #1, ok.
1a and 1b, not mentioned, but since these gives mates-in-2, no problem.
1c, ok.
#2, ok.
White #3, ok.
3a, ok.
3b, not mentioned, but it doesn't matter for end-result if black takes 3a or 3b.
#4, ok, this is the same regardless of 3a and 3b.

So quite frankly, Beethoven, I don't see your point why the 3a-solution isn't accepted, since it doesn't matter where black moves his Knight, the final white move is exactly the same regardless. To get a horse killed or not at the same time the king is dead doesn't really matter, you've lost anyway.
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消息 381499 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 10:28:32 UTC - 回复消息 381490.  
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Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

Give the man a Voodoo Doll, with pins.

EEK! Robert has turned into a chess-crazed Zombie!

RUN everybody! RUN!!!


Does it look like this? Or this?


That's alright, you keep it. You earned it. :-p

EEK! Run everybody! RUN! Don't let the doll touch you! It's unclean: it will turn you into a Zombie!

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消息 381490 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 10:13:23 UTC

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

Give the man a Voodoo Doll, with pins.

EEK! Robert has turned into a chess-crazed Zombie!

RUN everybody! RUN!!!


Does it look like this? Or this?

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消息 381484 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 9:31:29 UTC - 回复消息 381473.  
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The Late Night Boogie Woogie is called [b]"Take a Letter, Maria" after the olden Goldie.


Enjoy!



White to Move and Mate in three.








This MAY be it...looks semi-noodly
Qg6, Qf6
2. BxQf6, pxBf6
3. Qh7++ (or even Qxh6++ or Rh7++)lol
If I've got this right it will be my 16th tinfoil hatted cupie.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

Give the man a Voodoo Doll, with pins.

EEK! Robert has turned into a chess-crazed Zombie!

RUN everybody! RUN!!!






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消息 381473 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 9:13:55 UTC - 回复消息 381299.  

The Late Night Boogie Woogie is called [b]"Take a Letter, Maria" after the olden Goldie.


Enjoy!



White to Move and Mate in three.








This MAY be it...looks semi-noodly
Qg6, Qf6
2. BxQf6, pxBf6
3. Qh7++ (or even Qxh6++ or Rh7++)lol
If I've got this right it will be my 16th tinfoil hatted cupie.

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消息 381413 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 5:29:51 UTC

*snicker*
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消息 381408 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 5:26:09 UTC - 回复消息 381406.  


So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?

Milla Jovovich. ;)

But how is she at chess?

Hot!...Hot, Hot, Hot! She overheats Traininbot's circuits alla time.

I think I'm going MAD!

Sexy Girl was hoping you'd be coming like MAD!

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So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?

Milla Jovovich. ;)

But how is she at chess?

Hot!...Hot, Hot, Hot! She overheats Traininbot's circuits alla time.

I think I'm going MAD!
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So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?

Milla Jovovich. ;)

But how is she at chess?

Hot!...Hot, Hot, Hot! She overheats Traininbot's circuits alla time.

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消息 381399 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 5:14:08 UTC - 回复消息 381395.  


So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?

Milla Jovovich. ;)

But how is she at chess?
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消息 381398 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 5:13:56 UTC - 回复消息 381391.  


So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?



hehe, you beat me to it....LOL

You ain't nothing but a houndog! LOL

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消息 381395 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 5:12:22 UTC - 回复消息 381389.  


So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?

Milla Jovovich. ;)

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消息 381391 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 5:10:27 UTC - 回复消息 381389.  


So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?



hehe, you beat me to it....LOL

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So who exactly is SexyGirl 1400?
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消息 381351 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 4:13:08 UTC - 回复消息 381348.  
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Yes, I can see the difference because black can see that he has to move the knight and he's doomed to lose when white moves regardless of where he puts it. Neener neener neener.

You're like a dog with a bone. LOL

Black is always doomed to lose in these problems. He's like the bull in the bullfight, right? But moving to g6 is an intelligent (though ill-fated) block. Even if ultimately ineffective, it at least "distracts" from the mating square. White has to "think further" to sidestep the block and find the mating square. (INTELLIGENT)

On the other hand: f7 not only is not an effective block, it actually draws attention to and "invites" the mating move. (STOOPID)

What's the inevitable death of the bull got to do with it?
Mainly because it's a dispute over the SAME piece that black has to move in either case and it is the SAME square that White is going to move the queen to mate black. ie it makes no difference. lol
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And this latest problem 'take a letter, Maria' or whatever it's called is tough.

The difference is: that in solving a problem you're supposed to assume that the oponent makes the most intellignet moves possible in the circumstances.

Here's the TrainingBot Solution for "All Along the Watchtower". See Black's 3rd move? "Ng6".







But enough said about this tonight. Let's both take an honest look at this in the morning. If I think you're right tomorrow morning, I'll say so. ;)

Good Luck with "Take A Letter Maria".
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Yes, I can see the difference because black can see that he has to move the knight and he's doomed to lose when white moves regardless of where he puts it. Neener neener neener.

You're like a dog with a bone. LOL

Black is always doomed to lose in these problems. He's like the bull in the bullfight, right? But moving to g6 is an intelligent (though ill-fated) block. Even if ultimately ineffective, it at least "distracts" from the mating square. White has to "think further" to sidestep the block and find the mating square. (INTELLIGENT)

On the other hand: f7 not only is not an effective block, it actually draws attention to and "invites" the mating move. (STOOPID)

What's the inevitable death of the bull got to do with it?
Mainly because it's a dispute over the SAME piece that black has to move in either case and it is the SAME square that White is going to move the queen to mate black. ie it makes no difference. lol
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And this latest problem 'take a letter, Maria' or whatever it's called is tough.
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Yes, I can see the difference because black can see that he has to move the knight and he's doomed to lose when white moves regardless of where he puts it. Neener neener neener.

You're like a dog with a bone. LOL

Black is always doomed to lose in these problems. He's like the bull in the bullfight, right? But moving to g6 is an intelligent (though ill-fated) block. Even if ultimately ineffective, it at least "distracts" from the mating square. White has to "think further" to sidestep the block and find the mating square. (INTELLIGENT)

On the other hand: f7 not only is not an effective block, it actually draws attention to and "invites" the mating move. (STOOPID)


INTELLIGENT...STOOPID


What's the inevitable death of the bull got to do with it?

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Yes, I can see the difference because black can see that he has to move the knight and he's doomed to lose when white moves regardless of where he puts it. Neener neener neener.
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消息 381341 - 发表于:29 Jul 2006, 3:54:10 UTC - 回复消息 381336.  

Beethoven, you're evil. I don't care if Misfit gets a n honorable mention or not. I cited 2 precedents. One mine, one his. You can't change the rules midgame. Myproblem is with you not accepting my first solution as legitimate, as it clearly is legitimate. You only accepted my second solution which differed from the first by one move (actually 1/2 of a move). I think you'd make a good mod. Power goes to your head. lol

Okay...once more "for the road"...nice and slowly... ;)

3. ...Nf7 is a STOOPID move.
3. ...Ng6 is an INTELLIGENT move.

STOOPID...INTELLIGENT

Do you see a difference there?


<not unkindly said>

It's fundamentally the same move. And it is also unkindly stated.

No more on this tonight, please. If you can't see the difference between putting a piece where it's sure to be captured and putting that piece where it's a reasonable attempt at a block (and can't be captured)...then:

Take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

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