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Message 370755 - Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 14:09:05 UTC

My Dell laptop with a 1.4 GHz Banias running WinXP pro currently shows my lowest SETI DCF at 0.408788.

However, I only recently resumed running SETI, and more recently adopted Simon's science ap, with a 10% resource share on most hosts, so suspect the DCF has not reached equilibrium at current conditions.

Running Akosf's S4 Einstein Science ap, my Einstein DCF's got below 0.2 on most of my machines. I think I saw as low about 0.15 for real. With S5, those days are long gone, and my Einstein DCF's range from about .45 to about .7 at the moment. Those may not be at equilibrium either.
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Message 370766 - Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 14:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 370647.  
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using chickens opt client on both

amd 4200 x2, 0.518
intel 3GHz HT, 0.333


interesting that the amd is alot higher...also, the benchs for the amd are alot lower on chicken app, than previously..


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Your AMD is running at 2.2GHz p/core and the Intel at 3Ghz p/(virtual)core, so not that strange, the rest depends on L1, L2, mem, hd speed etc..

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Message 370805 - Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 16:05:57 UTC

DCF figures seem to ‘jitter’ a bit, so I won’t report many decimal places, but on my three Macs (G4s at 400 or 733 MHz) running the Alex Kan / Team MacNN app ( ;p ) they tend to centre around 0.30 or a little less.
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Message 371491 - Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 7:55:24 UTC
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1/ P4 3.2Ghz / 1M cache / 800 fsb / 1 GB Corsair Extreme Dual [ 0.428704 ]
( a week since cpu changed from 3.0Ghz)

2/ Athlon 3000 xp BArton / 1GB pc 3200. [ 0.990893 ]

3/ Athlon 2800 xp Barton / 512 MB pc 3200 [ 1.063175 ]

4/ Athlon 2000 xp / 512 MB mem. [ 1.333057 ]


Using your optimised ap
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Message 372263 - Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 12:45:29 UTC

Pentium D 920 clocked at 3.22 GHz, 1 Gig ddr2 800, Asus P5ld2-vm

Using KWSN optimized Linux app

DCF is 0.164117 at the moment.

Pentium M 2.0 GHz laptop, 512 Mb, Using KWSN Windows app

DCF is 0.710428

I've been doing some other projects more with the Pentium M than with the Pentium D, does sharing with other projects affect DCF?
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Message 372279 - Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 13:21:14 UTC - in response to Message 370647.  

using chickens opt client on both

amd 4200 x2, 0.518
intel 3GHz HT, 0.333


interesting that the amd is alot higher...also, the benchs for the amd are alot lower on chicken app, than previously..


Cheers.


UPDATE.

They are now
amd 4200 x2, 0.468
intel 3GHz HT, 0.415
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Message 372352 - Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 15:54:48 UTC

P4 2,66MHz WinXp, chickens opt client
Average CPU efficiency 0.959019
Result duration correction factor 1
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No correction :-)
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Message 372354 - Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 16:10:00 UTC - in response to Message 372263.  

Pentium D 920 clocked at 3.22 GHz, 1 Gig ddr2 800, Asus P5ld2-vm

Using KWSN optimized Linux app

DCF is 0.164117 at the moment.

Pentium M 2.0 GHz laptop, 512 Mb, Using KWSN Windows app

DCF is 0.710428

I've been doing some other projects more with the Pentium M than with the Pentium D, does sharing with other projects affect DCF?

Pam,
The DCF is not affected by sharing with other projects, you have separate DCF's for each project.

My pent M is still dropping, now at 0.39nn and I don't think has reached min yet as predicted times to crunch are still longer than actual crunch times.

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Message 372438 - Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 20:26:35 UTC - in response to Message 370368.  


My Opteron 175 has Result duration correction factor 0.455042 [/quote]

It has now changed to 0.620798...Is higher better or lower?

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Message 372727 - Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 2:14:30 UTC - in response to Message 372438.  


My Opteron 175 has Result duration correction factor 0.455042


It has now changed to 0.620798...Is higher better or lower?
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Lower is better.
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Message 372754 - Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 2:43:53 UTC - in response to Message 372727.  
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My Opteron 175 has Result duration correction factor 0.455042


It has now changed to 0.620798...Is higher better or lower?

Lower is better.[/quote]
Hm...It is now .64 seems to be getting higher. My RAC is still going up also. Expected credit is almost always right.
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Message 372845 - Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 4:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 372754.  
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My Opteron 175 has Result duration correction factor 0.455042


It has now changed to 0.620798...Is higher better or lower?

Lower is better.

Hm...It is now .64 seems to be getting higher. My RAC is still going up also. Expected credit is almost always right.

Just looked at 1st page of results for that computer, the times to crunch are similar to my pent M.
Except for the two units that took over 10k sec, these seem to be a lot slower, similar angle_range units on my computer are done in about 8k sec.

Over on Beta there have been several discussions about the different performance of AMD/Intel cpu's at various AR's this might be just one of those differences. My Pent M seems to be worse than predicted at VLAR's but a lot better at VHAR's.

These differences will cause the DCF to vary, and unfortunately the go up quickly and down slowly, but it has to be so.

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Message 372986 - Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 6:07:05 UTC - in response to Message 372845.  


My Opteron 175 has Result duration correction factor 0.455042


It has now changed to 0.620798...Is higher better or lower?

Lower is better.

Hm...It is now .64 seems to be getting higher. My RAC is still going up also. Expected credit is almost always right.

Just looked at 1st page of results for that computer, the times to crunch are similar to my pent M.
Except for the two units that took over 10k sec, these seem to be a lot slower, similar angle_range units on my computer are done in about 8k sec.

Over on Beta there have been several discussions about the different performance of AMD/Intel cpu's at various AR's this might be just one of those differences. My Pent M seems to be worse than predicted at VLAR's but a lot better at VHAR's.
These differences will cause the DCF to vary, and unfortunately the go up quickly and down slowly, but it has to be so.

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Would that explain why my RAC bounces so much?


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Message 373032 - Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 7:16:31 UTC
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My RAC, which I am now beggining to disregard, bounces because of pending credit. In the last 2 weeks the daily amount of BOINC credit I have received has varied from 150 to over a 1200.
But yes if you get a run of the good or bad units for your particular setup the RAC will swing considerably. I find having no cache of units for a project and relying on crunching for 4 projects to ensure cpu's are busy stops most batch downloads of similar units.

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Message 375977 - Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 3:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 370805.  

DCF figures seem to ‘jitter’ a bit, so I won’t report many decimal places, but on my three Macs (G4s at 400 or 733 MHz) running the Alex Kan / Team MacNN app ( ;p ) they tend to centre around 0.30 or a little less.

DCF will jitter (possibly a great deal) as the exact computing time is unknown before the result is complete.


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Message 377508 - Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 19:37:25 UTC

Now I want a DCF graph in the statistics tab of boinc, so I can keep an eye on it... ;)
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Message 378261 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 15:44:12 UTC
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2.8 Gig Celeron, with 1 Gig DDRAM, Win XP Pro SP2.
Running BOINC 5.2.13 with Simon's optimised app
DCF is 0.437652

By the way, although this thread isn't about cred races, my RAC dropped to 85 after enhanced began, from a high of 132 before enhanced.

Since installing the optimised app, my RAC is now over 200 and continuing upwards.
Unlike many, I'm not trying to gain bragging rights, but the thought that I'm now crunching more science with my humble home PC does give me that warm fuzzy feeling :)
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Message 378469 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 21:12:54 UTC

Saw some good formats that supply all requested info for chicken's request.

Joker3 Opteron 270 @ 2.36GHz [K8N-DL v1.03] XP x64 0.926109
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5.4.9 Boinc install, 5.5.0 client and 5.15 SSE2 kwsn optimized app on both PCs.

DCF       CPU            Mhz     Core     L2 size    Client App
0.990893  Athlon 3000 xp 2Ghz    BArton   576K
0.399591  Pentium 4 HT   3.3Ghz  Prescott 1024K      chicken's P4-SSE3
0.235826  MacMini G4                                 Alex Kan's
0.361601  Pentium-D 805  3.85Ghz                     chicken's P4-SSE3
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Message 378477 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 21:35:57 UTC

Hello!

AMD K8 3200+ (Socket 754) @ 2212MHz (normal 2200MHz)

Running only BOINC/ S@H, 24/7

Trux Boinc V5.3.12.tx36

Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Crunch3r
Version info: Windows SSE2 V5.12 by Crunch3r

Result duration correction factor 0.475487 to 0.615021


Greetings!



BTW. Average CPU efficiency 0.99883 to 0.999666
Which means that?



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Message 378484 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 21:47:19 UTC - in response to Message 370328.  


---CUT---
...The reference computer has a DCF of 1. When your computer is faster than the reference computer in processing a WU, its DCF gets lowered. This takes a while to stabilize, 20-30 WUs is probably a minimum figure....
---CUT---


Hello!

I don´t know... I had cruched on this PC 20- 30 WUs...?


AMD K7 600 @ 604 MHz

Not running only BOINC/ S@H

Trux Boinc V5.3.12.tx36

Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Crunch3r
Version info: Windows MMX V5.12 by Crunch3r

Result duration correction factor 1.168498 to 1.29566


Greetings!



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