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1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0
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Logan 5@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 7 May 01 Posts: 54 Credit: 1,275,043 RAC: 0
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Dr Dave, quite simply, sees that Seti is dying, and is now putting his funding chips on other boinc projects! If Boinc keeps going, his NSF grant will continue, and since Seti hasn't gotten NSF funding in quite some time, he doesn't really care, and is crunching for other projects.azwoody: This "Personal opinion" of yours is not relavent to the original thread topic which was that The Seti Project, Distributed Computing and THE Greatest Distributed Computing Team there is got a mostly complimentary mention in today's Wall Street Journal. I wish I could understand how we went from that to a pretty useless Off Topic "discussion" of Dr. David Andersons Crunching preferences....it would be relavant ONLY if the two of you were discussing his imminent crunching for OUR team but that's a discussion for another thread....
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Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0
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Some times it's not the popular thing to do, i.e. play the devils advocate...but to my surprise, for the most part, this thread has turned out to be quite informative with a good exchange of info and opinions. Enlightenment takes many routes and forms. The only spoiler was some minor flamebaiting earlier on, but this is a free forum, what the heck. Account frozen... |
MattDavis Send message Joined: 11 Nov 99 Posts: 919 Credit: 934,161 RAC: 0
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If these guys can get along, why can't we? -----
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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3
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Thanks for that, Kevin. That made a good read. Reading the comments of some people over on slashdot on this, made me chuckle when compared to the comments of some people in this thread though. ;-) |
Reuben Gathright Send message Joined: 8 Mar 01 Posts: 213 Credit: 14,594,579 RAC: 0
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Meanwhile, Dr. Anderson has experienced several restarts with CPDN because of simulation errors! ha ha ha. Overclock with the MSI G31M3-L and Intel E8600 3.33Ghz Intel D865GLC Socket 478 Motherboard ~How To Overclock The Eee ASUS 1005HA Netbook To 1.9Ghz~ |
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Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0
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Thanks for that, Kevin. That made a good read. LOL Second Law of BOINC: Any given participant will defend their sacred cow to the death, while attempting to gore all others. :-) Alinator |
Raven Send message Joined: 28 Aug 02 Posts: 373 Credit: 99,071 RAC: 0
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MattDavis Send message Joined: 11 Nov 99 Posts: 919 Credit: 934,161 RAC: 0
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So you could stand service in the Army but not put up with an anonymous internet stranger and his quasi-trash talk? I must be pretty hardcore. That's not very responsible :\\ I mean, I thought soldiers were taught to shoot things that would endanger them. But annoy? Raven advocates the death of civilians in war if they heckle troops :| -----
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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3
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Sorry, fun message on the Boinc development list in answer to the actual WSJ article. Posted by Carl Christensen, from CPDN: Also includes the usual "these computers are contributing to global warming" (on CPDN we once calculated 2 million machines simultaneously (our hope & prayer ;-) would be .001% of greenhouse gas emissions). Maybe we should put it in terms of how many SUV's that is? :-) |
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kevint Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 414 Credit: 11,680,240 RAC: 0
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Thanks for that, Kevin. That made a good read. Yea, we got slashdot'd - what a bunch of wacko's we all are - looking for little green men with our computers and fighting about who is crunching what and what credits are given. It would make the little green men run and hide, no wonder we can't find them. |
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Hans Dorn Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2262 Credit: 26,448,570 RAC: 0
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Here I am, doing toy science for little credits, instead of doing real science for big credits over at EAH. Regards Hans P.S: Sue me :o) |
Wanabeelee Send message Joined: 30 Jun 02 Posts: 12 Credit: 1,528,919 RAC: 0
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Sorry, fun message on the Boinc development list in answer to the actual WSJ article. Posted by Carl Christensen, from CPDN: Top supercomputers are not running military apps. IBM is the creator of the most powerfull supercomputers and you can see what they are up to if you look here. [url=http://www.top500.org/[/url] |
Wanabeelee Send message Joined: 30 Jun 02 Posts: 12 Credit: 1,528,919 RAC: 0
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I now know why I quit reading the seti@home forms. It was a real test of my endurance to read past all the post from people craving attention and get to the meat of the post. I like debate as much as the next guy, but no where in my book dose flaming other posters is a means to start an intelligent debate on a subject. That's not very responsible :\\ I mean, I thought soldiers were taught to shoot things that would endanger them. But annoy? I don’t know about soldiers from other parts of the world but the ones in the U.S.A are thought to protect the belief and morels of our country. This can often be done without even shooting a weapon, thanks to the man and women that have already died to ensure that you have the freedom to post your views without the controlling faction dragging you from your home to make an example for others. God Bless the USA! And to break away from my first complaint and actually get to the meat of this thread… I have to say I was truly disappointed in the article in the WSJ. I joined Seti.Usa on the 22ed of Jun 2006 and believe the team is more than A wolfpack, or Self-righteous American chest thumping patriotism. They / WE are a team. We are a group dedicated to research and friendly compatision. I think it was uninformed to say with national rivalries mixed inâ€Â, and “they don’t want to lose them by switching(meaning credits and switching projects) being the reasons Seti.Usa crunch seti@home. And Yes, it's true that even without the Seti@Home crowd bigfooting the world of distributed computing, we probably still would have incurable diseases and dangerous climate change. But we'd be a lot closer to solutions than we are now, don't you think?implying that Seti.Usa members waist cpu cycles when they could be put to better use. If he would have taken time to look, Seti.Usa is in the top 100 in almost every project, and – I don’t need to say more numbers speak for them-self. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3
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Dr. Anderson has worked for BOINC for a couple of years now. Not seti. Bottom of the About Seti page: personnel list. :) |
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