Good Stuff, Simon.

Any idea as to when you will have WinXP SSE2 and SSE3 clients available?

As soon as Intel release a Win32 free for personal non-commercial use package...

Right now, according to their page, that version is ONLY available for Linux. Their FTP server says different, and the same licenses work. So while you can use them this way, the legality of doing that is very unclear.

Regards,
Simon.

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Any idea as to when you will have WinXP SSE2 and SSE3 clients available?

As soon as Intel release a Win32 free for personal non-commercial use package...

Right now, according to their page, that version is ONLY available for Linux. Their FTP server says different, and the same licenses work. So while you can use them this way, the legality of doing that is very unclear.

Regards,
Simon.

...and what did Eben Moglen say to clarify the situation when you got in touch with him?

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I did not contact Eben yet.
Not because I don't think it's necessary but because I simply haven't found time yet.

However, at the Intel site, they mention SPECIFICALLY that the only operating system these free for personal non-com use packages are offered on is Linux. So that's a pretty clear statement (even though, like I said, you can manually download the necessary files and the license works).

Regards,
Simon.

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The downloadable client package has been updated with an executable that should now really run on all SSE2-enabled systems.

The URL is still the same, but it now downloads a file called "setiathome-5.15-sse2-v2.tar.gz".

Regards,
Simon.

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104 downloads and counting :o)

Wow. I didn't think it was gonna go that quickly after only being online for less than 16 hours...

So there were some more compatibility issues, namely: it wouldn't run on Linux 2.4 systems, only on 2.6.

That's now fixed, the links are the same, the package is updated. So have at it people :o) Bandwidth is not a problem.

Regards,
Simon.

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Add one more download! Trying it on my workstation here at work. Dual core AMD64. It picked up 2 work units already in progress under the standard 5.12 client. this one and this one should be returned some time within the next few hours.

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I did not contact Eben yet.
Not because I don't think it's necessary but because I simply haven't found time yet.

However, at the Intel site, they mention SPECIFICALLY that the only operating system these free for personal non-com use packages are offered on is Linux. So that's a pretty clear statement (even though, like I said, you can manually download the necessary files and the license works).

Regards,
Simon.

Obviously, Crunch3r found some legal way of creating and distributing his optimized WinXP apps.

Perhaps asking him about it would be useful?

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Just a note to optimizers. 5.17 isn't ready for prime time (or even beta) yet. I've got some code issues to deal with in the short term. In particular the x86_64 chirp routine is untested.

On the bright side, that means people who want to send in optimized code for specific processors have time to do so.

Eric

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EricVonDaniken,

to my knowledge he bought a license, and that's how :o)

Just my 0.02 bucks.

Thanks for the notice, Eric! (Korpela)
5.17 didn't seem to work too well no matter what I tried, so I gave up on it for now (CVS) until further notice. The apps are at 5.15, based on your source tarballs.

Regards,
Simon.

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EricVonDaniken,

to my knowledge he bought a license, and that's how :o)

Regards,
Simon.

A= can you verify that so we are sure of what thw truth is?

B= how much does a license cost?

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I did not contact Eben yet.
Not because I don't think it's necessary but because I simply haven't found time yet.

However, at the Intel site, they mention SPECIFICALLY that the only operating system these free for personal non-com use packages are offered on is Linux. So that's a pretty clear statement (even though, like I said, you can manually download the necessary files and the license works).

Regards,
Simon.

Obviously, Crunch3r found some legal way of creating and distributing his optimized WinXP apps.

Perhaps asking him about it would be useful?

From memory (and I could be wrong, it was a while ago) someone made a donation which allowed Crunch3r to either purchase it, or the donation was the license itself. I even believe it was specificly to allow the optimised apps to be made for SETI@home. This leads to the point that if someone donated to allow him to make the optimised SETI apps then isn't he showing a huge amount of bad form by removing them.

Live long and crunch.

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And proud of it!

A litlle OT, but Akos had to pull his latest patches because of validation issues.
A discussion about running optimized or not has started in this thread.

Some people are leaving Einstein already.

Regards Hans

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From memory (and I could be wrong, it was a while ago) someone made a donation which allowed Crunch3r to either purchase it, or the donation was the license itself. I even believe it was specificly to allow the optimised apps to be made for SETI@home. This leads to the point that if someone donated to allow him to make the optimised SETI apps then isn't he showing a huge amount of bad form by removing them.

Live long and crunch.

I remember the same thing happening. It was shortly after TMR released the first optimized app for windows. I don't know if Crunch3r was the recipient though...I seem to remember that whoever it was wished to remain annonomous.

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Oi, 649 posts...

And about the donation and related questions...er...no idea, don't really want to comment, nothing good could come of it.

I had a different idea, which is to write to Intel directly (marketing or one the CEO's office) about supporting Seti@Home and giving a license to the project for the express purpose of offering optimized clients for everyone.

Not sure how that will go, I haven't written and sent that letter (yes, snail mail) yet, but I will.

If Intel doesn't want to do that, then I'd try a donation drive towards the same goal - not giving this licence to any one person but to the project.

I really don't believe, even though I spent lots of time doing what needed doing, that I am entitled to any recompensation. Sure, it would be nice, but noone asked me to, right?

I can only hope Intel notices my letter and is interested :o)
After all, there are a lot of us crunchers, and we all need hardware to crunch with...and the project could always use some more server hardware, too, but that's a different thing entirely (and I will not ask them for it in my letter...alluding to it maybe).

Regards,
Simon.

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A litlle OT, but Akos had to pull his latest patches because of validation issues.
A discussion about running optimized or not has started in this thread.

Some people are leaving Einstein already.

Regards Hans

I think the gist of it is not so much the stable versions don't pass muster, but rather they aren't certified for use under the study protocol.

Still, it's causing a "mini flapdoodle" at the moment. ;-)

Alinator

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Sorry but this is old news. Crunch3r does programing as a part of "business" he purchases Software to allow him to work... In this case Seti BOINC benifited... If he had a PayPal Link to help defer costs for time he donated here then "fine" No One, Paid for His Licenses! He paid for them... The sad part is that all the "credit mongers" should have been the First to Step Forward to Donate Money... But then the should have also dontated to Seti! They were getting Prime Credit for Cost/Hour....

So at this point, it is go figure! Someone wrung the neck of the goose that laid golden eggs... I hope they enjoyed the meal... For me the whole affair was was very unappitizing...

From memory (and I could be wrong, it was a while ago) someone made a donation which allowed Crunch3r to either purchase it, or the donation was the license itself. I even believe it was specificly to allow the optimised apps to be made for SETI@home. This leads to the point that if someone donated to allow him to make the optimised SETI apps then isn't he showing a huge amount of bad form by removing them.

Live long and crunch.

Pappa

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I had a different idea, which is to write to Intel directly (marketing or one the CEO's office) about supporting Seti@Home and giving a license to the project for the express purpose of offering optimized clients for everyone.

Regards,
Simon.

IMO the Seti project is pretty good PR for Intel's compiler, libraries and CPUs too.


Regards Hans

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Pappa: Like I said, I believe he paid for them :o) Enough drama.

and Hans, I believe that too.
Which is why I'm taking the time to try and do that right, or they'll just ignore me.

Regards,
Simon.

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A litlle OT, but Akos had to pull his latest patches because of validation issues.

Perhaps I just didn't sit down and really read what to do with the Einstein stuff, but it just seemed to be more complex than the "Average" user would be able to install. All the patching of .DAT files and whatnot... It shouldn't have been so public...and if patching of files was required then someone should've got an RTPatch license...IMHO.

I didn't bother with an optimized S5. Short run times for me were about 45 minutes with the long ones running at about 7.00 to 7.25 hours..on the stock app.

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