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Message 358267 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 22:27:42 UTC - in response to Message 358242.  

Okay,

I just released test builds for Windows to a closed test community (thank you, I have enough testers for now).

Once I get back some test data, I'll post some stats about speed and compatibility.

It won't be too long, if there are no problems, apps will be released for public download this week - probably within 2-3 days, maybe sooner, maybe later. Have Patience, please!

The need to produce valid results is greater than the need for speed.

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That's good news, and I agree that careful testing is the prime need at this point.

Are any of your testers running Win9X? The changes from 5.12 through 5.16 were mainly related to our problems on those systems. There were changes not only in the app code but also in the BOINC api, both Eric Korpela and Rom Walton making updates to boinc_api.C in rapid succession. I'm not seriously concerned since Tetsuji did a test build after those changes which ran OK on Win98. But my DevC++ builds of 5.16 and 5.17 give an error when trying to set up the timer thread on my Win98 system, though the builds run without problems on a Win2k laptop.

If I can be of help, contact me at jsegur at westelcom dot com.
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Message 358274 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 22:39:42 UTC

Thanks Josef,

you have already been a great help! Check your inbox, please. :o)

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Message 358282 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 22:46:17 UTC - in response to Message 358242.  

Okay,

I just released test builds for Windows to a closed test community (thank you, I have enough testers for now).

Once I get back some test data, I'll post some stats about speed and compatibility.

It won't be too long, if there are no problems, apps will be released for public download this week - probably within 2-3 days, maybe sooner, maybe later. Have Patience, please!

The need to produce valid results is greater than the need for speed.

Regards,
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thanks for the Info @KWSN - Chicken

hope all is going good and i am alse in to the Fun.............

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Message 358288 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 22:53:16 UTC - in response to Message 358242.  

Okay,

I just released test builds for Windows to a closed test community (thank you, I have enough testers for now).

Once I get back some test data, I'll post some stats about speed and compatibility.

It won't be too long, if there are no problems, apps will be released for public download this week - probably within 2-3 days, maybe sooner, maybe later. Have Patience, please!

The need to produce valid results is greater than the need for speed.

Regards,
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If you ever need AMD Dual64 XP Pro64 testers with fast machine...I would be glad to help.
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Message 358291 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 22:56:59 UTC

Like I said,
Thanks! Right now I have enough testers :o)

Sorry.
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Message 358302 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:27:52 UTC

thanks for the Info

i just testing this

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Message 358306 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:36:29 UTC

for Info

stderr.txt

Can't set up shared mem: -1
ar=1.279649 NumCfft=1663 NumGauss= 0 NumPulse= 843636223 NumTriplet= 301563183104
Optimized Windows SETI@Home Enhanced application
Version info: Windows SSE 32-bit V5.15 'Chicken Good!' (Test-1.1|+kwsn|xK)
Compiled by Simon Zadra (KWSN - Chicken of Angnor) - Member of the Knights who say Ni! (http://www.kwsn.net)
Download Updates at: http://www.zadra.org/seti_enhanced/

Work Unit Info:
True angle range: 1.279649

Flopcounter: 243253680427.522030

Spike count: 0
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0Can't set up shared mem: -1
ar=1.279649 NumCfft=1663 NumGauss= 0 NumPulse= 843636223 NumTriplet= 301563183104
Optimized Windows SETI@Home Enhanced application
Version info: Windows SSE2 32-bit V5.15 'Chicken Good!' (Test-1.1|+kwsn|xW)
Compiled by Simon Zadra (KWSN - Chicken of Angnor) - Member of the Knights who say Ni! (http://www.kwsn.net)
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Work Unit Info:
True angle range: 1.279649

Flopcounter: 243253680427.522030

Spike count: 0
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0Can't set up shared mem: -1
ar=1.279649 NumCfft=1663 NumGauss= 0 NumPulse= 843636224 NumTriplet= 301563183104

Host is an Athlon 3.200+ S754 not Overcclocked running Windows XP SP1 with tho 256 MB Modules of Twinmos B5 Chips...

for Info

this Host has no Errors since it was installed....

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Message 358309 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:38:39 UTC

Ulli, bitte poste das auf dem anderen Board. Danke! Hier hat es keinen Platz.

Der Link geht direkt in einen Thread, dort kannst Du posten! Ist echt nicht schwer...

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Message 358312 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:42:43 UTC - in response to Message 358309.  

Ulli, bitte poste das auf dem anderen Board. Danke! Hier hat es keinen Platz.

Der Link geht direkt in einen Thread, dort kannst Du posten! Ist echt nicht schwer...

Danke,
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euer forum ist echt hard da was zu finden...

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Message 358313 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:44:13 UTC

I'll install a german translation so you can find stuff more easily. Maybe that will help.

I will switch your account for you when it's there.
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Message 358316 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:47:04 UTC - in response to Message 358313.  

I'll install a german translation so you can find stuff more easily. Maybe that will help.

I will switch your account for you when it's there.


ich suche schon seit Stunden,

wo gibt es die Möglichkeit

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finde das einfach nicht vieleicht auch schon zu spät...

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Message 358320 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:49:07 UTC

I've got that same "Can't set up shared mem" Hasn't cause any immediate probs. All came out strongly similar.
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Message 358323 - Posted: 5 Jul 2006, 23:51:02 UTC
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Pepperammi, Sir Ulli, that's a message you get with the default client, too, so I'd safely ignore it.

It's not an error affecting anything.

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P.S. Ulli, especially for you: http://www.zadra.org/seti_enhanced/index.php?action=post;topic=13.0 - click on this link and it will open a new post in the correct thread. Oh, and your profile is switched to german :o) Hope that helps in finding links.
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Message 358329 - Posted: 6 Jul 2006, 0:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 358323.  

Pepperammi, Sir Ulli, that's a message you get with the default client, too, so I'd safely ignore it.

It's not an error affecting anything.

Regards,
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P.S. Ulli, especially for you: http://www.zadra.org/seti_enhanced/index.php?action=post;topic=13.0 - click on this link and it will open a new post in the correct thread.


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

An Error Has Occurred!

best to send me an E-mail

mailto:ulrichbrinkschmidt@teleos-web.de

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Message 358340 - Posted: 6 Jul 2006, 0:32:11 UTC

one of my main Probs

i m in at the best of 10 or 12 Teams also at their Forums but every Team use an other Forum Software and..................

at this time Time a dont know if
Team a or Team b using......


so pe patient...

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Message 358402 - Posted: 6 Jul 2006, 2:31:19 UTC

Preliminary testing is looking good.

All results so far have validated (using rescmp) vs. the default 5.15.

So far, the gains have been variable depending on which CPU architecture exactly is used - there is even quite some variance between Prescotts and Smithfields, for example.

The only clients that did not run or produce valid results were ones optimized for an unsupported instruction set (like an SSE3 binary on an SSE2-capable machine), which is normal.

There will be several versions you can download -

SSE (P3/Athlon XP)
SSE2-generic (Athlon 64/Turion)
SSE2-P4 (P4-only)
SSE2-P-M (Pentium-M, Core Solo/Duo)
SSE3

You should find out what instruction sets your CPU supports by using something like CPU-Z before using any of them.

You could do that now, while you still have to wait :o)

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Message 358411 - Posted: 6 Jul 2006, 2:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 358402.  

Preliminary testing is looking good.

All results so far have validated (using rescmp) vs. the default 5.15.

So far, the gains have been variable depending on which CPU architecture exactly is used - there is even quite some variance between Prescotts and Smithfields, for example.

The only clients that did not run or produce valid results were ones optimized for an unsupported instruction set (like an SSE3 binary on an SSE2-capable machine), which is normal.

There will be several versions you can download -

SSE (P3/Athlon XP)
SSE2-generic (Athlon 64/Turion)
SSE2-P4 (P4-only)
SSE2-P-M (Pentium-M, Core Solo/Duo)
SSE3

You should find out what instruction sets your CPU supports by using something like CPU-Z before using any of them.

You could do that now, while you still have to wait :o)

Regards,
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Hi Simon. Seti apps compiled for P4/SSE3 are running fine on Core Solo/Duo

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Message 358465 - Posted: 6 Jul 2006, 4:08:04 UTC - in response to Message 358402.  


There will be several versions you can download -

SSE (P3/Athlon XP)
SSE2-generic (Athlon 64/Turion)
SSE2-P4 (P4-only)

Um... Both my Coppermine P3's report by CPU-Z supporting SSE2, and happily ran SETI/Einstein aftermarket aps designated as SSE2, I think.

As Coppermine was one of the most widely sold P3's, perhaps your summary needs a bit of revision?

Trying to be helpful--not sassy. And let me add my thanks for your efforts.

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Message 358560 - Posted: 6 Jul 2006, 7:08:11 UTC

I've so far read this thread with great interest and much respect for anyone trying to build an optimized application for S@h Enhanced!

Since we're all starting to wonder how big the speedup might be, I found this url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=83883658]result[/url]. There were 2 AMD Athlon 64 3500+ crunching and Chicken of Angor's app on his 3500+ finished valid in 12.800 seconds. The other 3500+ took 20.070 seconds which would make a speedup of 36% for the Chicken of Angor application! WOW! I don't know if his cpu is still stock, but I assume it is (at least for the test phase of the opt. app).

I'm aware that this is not a general number, but I found another url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=83902818]result[/url] where Chicken of Angor's P4 2,66Ghz dualcore outcrunched a normal 2,66Ghz P4 by half the time (12280 vs 24760 seconds). One might argue that this isn't an exact comparison, because of the one core, two core thing, but that was not my intention anyhow. Just some really rough numbers to see where we are. :)

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