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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Running: P4, 2.8G, 1MB L2, 512MB - WinXP SP2 MOINC Manager v5.4.9 SETI / Beta SE v5.15 Symptoms: Twice in a week, BOINC Manager tells me it cannot connect with a BOINC client. I bring up Task Manager and lo and behold, the BOINC client is no longer running. It's not even in the process list. It has just mysteriously vanished. This is indeed the weirdest thing I have seen yet. Any ideas.... \\-:< CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Jim-R. Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0 |
Running: Hi Siran, You know me, I'm not a Windows man, but I do run Windows XP occasionally. Does your "event logger" show any messages? Something is bound to be causing the app to die and it might leave a message somewhere. Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
I agree with Jim. If you have it installed as a service and the service will brak for some reason, it'll tell in Event Viewer. If you have it installed as a single/multi user install, please tell. Then say what other programs you may be running at that same time, how much RAM you have on how many CPUs and how many projects you have running and if you see the same thing on others. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
I see this occasionally on one of my machines. I think it may have to do with a science application crashing and taking BOINC with it. BOINC WIKI |
Rom Walton (BOINC) Send message Joined: 28 Apr 00 Posts: 579 Credit: 130,733 RAC: 0 |
Does stderrdae.txt contain anything useful? If a crash happened, that is where the diagnostic output will be logged. ----- Rom BOINC Development Team, U.C. Berkeley My Blog |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Does stderrdae.txt contain anything useful? Funny you should mention this. I was just looking at it and I copy/pasted an excerpt from it. Hang on while I transfer it to this PC.... Ok, I'm back. This is what I found: -------------------------------------------------------------------- *** UNHANDLED EXCEPTION **** Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x004CB014 read attempt to address 0x00000008 *** Dump of the (offending) thread: *** eax=00c2f990 ebx=00b342c8 ecx=00000000 edx=00b343d0 esi=00c2f910 edi=00b343d0 eip=004cb014 esp=0122fee0 ebp=00ee9ad0 cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00010202 ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0122fee0 004cadcd 00b343d0 00000000 00c2f910 0000001b libcurl!Curl_llist_insert_next+0x5 (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\llist.c:78) FPO: [3,0,0] 0122ff00 004bf7b3 00b342c8 00b343d0 0000001b 00ee9ad0 libcurl!Curl_hash_add+0xb (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\hash.c:165) FPO: [4,0,0] 0122ff24 004bfae5 00edd758 00ee9a98 00ee9fe8 00000050 libcurl!Curl_cache_addr+0x19 (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\hostip.c:361) FPO: [4,1,0] 0122ff48 004bfb52 00538af8 004bfd7c 00c1aaa8 00000000 libcurl!addrinfo_callback+0x15 (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\hostasyn.c:131) FPO: [0,1,0] 0122ff50 004bfd7c 00c1aaa8 00000000 00538af8 0012ef54 libcurl!Curl_addrinfo4_callback+0x12 (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\hostasyn.c:161) FPO: [3,0,0] 0122ff80 7c349565 00000000 0012ef54 000e000c 00b39fd0 libcurl!gethostbyname_thread+0x0 (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\hostthre.c:335) FPO: [1,4,0] 0122ffb4 7c80b50b 00b39fd0 0012ef54 000e000c 00b39fd0 MSVCR71!__endthreadex+0x0 (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\hostthre.c:335) 0122ffec 00000000 7c3494f6 00b39fd0 00000000 000000c8 kernel32!_BaseThreadStart@8+0x0 (c:\\boincsrc\\sdks\\curl\\lib\\hostthre.c:335) Exiting... -------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sure this will reveal a clue or 2.... (-:< [edit] Oh, one other thing. This is not SETI-centric. The first time this happened was when Einstein was crunching. [/edit] CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
@ Jim, Jord and John: Thanks for the help guys. I checked the event logger before finding the information I posted for Rom. I was on Skype with Celtic Wolf and he said to check the error logs for BOINC. That's when I found what I did. Let's hope a fix can come around soon.... (-:< CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
The Gas Giant Send message Joined: 22 Nov 01 Posts: 1904 Credit: 2,646,654 RAC: 0 |
I've seen it as well. WIN XP, 512MB RAM, BOINC 5.4.9 installed as a service, Malaria Control 100%. Memory usage 490MB (lot's running) IE crashed. Running Azureus - which has caused a few crashes due to a dodgy usb dsl modem driver (dlink200 - common problem no fix to date). more of this style of notification. . . . . . ModLoad: 00a70000 00031000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\srcsrv.dll (6.5.3.7) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) File Version : 6.5.0003.7 (vbl_core_fbrel(jshay).050527-1915) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Debugging Tools for Windows(R) Product Version: 6.5.0003.7 . . *** UNHANDLED EXCEPTION **** Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x771B3674 read attempt to address 0x014C01CC *** Dump of the (offending) thread: *** eax=014c0000 ebx=00000032 ecx=00000000 edx=001a0003 esi=00169558 edi=00000000 eip=771b3674 esp=0087f264 ebp=0087f264 cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00010246 ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0087f264 771b36bc 00000000 0087f2c4 00000000 00000000 WININET!+0x0 0087f2a4 771b73d8 00000000 0087f2c4 0087f2c8 771b738d WININET!+0x0 0087f2b4 771b738d 0087f2c4 00000000 00000000 0087f36c WININET!FindNextUrlCacheEntryA+0x0 0087f2c8 771b82ad 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 WININET!FindNextUrlCacheEntryA+0x0 0087f36c 771c57ee 00000000 00000032 0087f38c 0087f388 WININET!InternetQueryOptionA+0x0 0087f390 771d03d2 0087f71c 00000000 7c34f744 00000000 WININET!HttpAddRequestHeadersA+0x0 0087f6e0 771d73f4 0087f710 00000000 00000000 00000000 WININET!InternetGetConnectedStateExW+0x0 0087f6f8 00886595 0087f710 00000000 ffffffff 0044bc20 WININET!InternetGetConnectedState+0x0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 boinc!BOINCIsNetworkAlive+0x0 Exiting... Another instance of BOINC is running ---------------- Live long and crunch. |
ThePhantom86 Send message Joined: 30 Jan 02 Posts: 268 Credit: 1,970,082 RAC: 0 |
I've had it happen several times on several of my machines. It's windows, :) |
cdr100560 Send message Joined: 12 May 06 Posts: 681 Credit: 65,502 RAC: 0 |
Could this kind of problem become more common when M$ rolls out Vista or is the amount of free RAM not an issue? I try to keep as much memory free and limit background processes to the minimun (even if it is only "chipping" away at cpu cycles 1 or 2% at a time) as I have just the one box to crunch with. I can't OC (proprietary mobo) so I try to squeeze as much as I can out of it. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
OK! This is rediculous! I am sending back nothing but errored WU's to all my projects. I have set them to get no new work and until this situation is cleared up, BOINC is taking a hiatus.... )-:< CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
This is what my returned results are saying: <core_client_version>5.4.9</core_client_version> <message> - exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005) </message> <stderr_txt> </stderr_txt> )-:< CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Jim-R. Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0 |
This is what my returned results are saying: This sounds like a Windows error message. It's not one from Boinc. If it's running as a service, you might could try running it just from the GUI to see if it happens. If it does, you may get an error window pop up with more info. Sorry I'm not more familiar with Winows. Good luck! Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. |
m00kie Send message Joined: 18 Jun 00 Posts: 19 Credit: 764,288 RAC: 0 |
I suspect you are having problems with your RAM. Try running memtest and see if it generates errors. http://www.memtest.org/ Proud member of Team Starfire World BOINC |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
This is what my returned results are saying: Hi Jim, The only popups I'm seeing is "[insert client app here] has encounter a problem and needs to shut down. We regret the inconvenience". The other I see is something about writing or not writing to a memory address. I don't remember which it is now. I still have one Beta WU crunching, all others have gone to their respective projects as errored out. Let me see what I have in my error logs and get back to you.... )-:< CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Jim-R. Send message Joined: 7 Feb 06 Posts: 1494 Credit: 194,148 RAC: 0 |
Hi Siran, I've looked at your wu's and man are they a weird lot! Do you have "keep work units in memory when preempted" or whatever it says set to "yes"? Are you stopping and starting either Windows or boinc? the reason I'm asking is I see some wu's that crunched perfectly with only a single entry in the log, while others have several log entries but still crunched, then others bombed out with either no log entries or from one to several! So it's not consistent. I'm beginning to agree with Mookie that you might have a memory problem (which your above error message points to) or your computer is overheating, or possibly something has happened to reset your cmos settings and thrown off your memory timings? Just throwing around some ideas! Good luck! Jim Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had. Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had. |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
Rick, this is a stupid question. Are you using a screensaver? I get that error in Rosetta when I use a screensaver. tony |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Well, sorry it took so long to get back, had some errands to run and had to clean my floppy drive so I could make the disk for MemTest86. Ok, here's the scoop:
CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
The Gas Giant Send message Joined: 22 Nov 01 Posts: 1904 Credit: 2,646,654 RAC: 0 |
Try another project and see what happens. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
........ The problem happens when running Einstein as well as Beta and SETI. I have returned a boat load of errored results for all three projects. Thanks for the assist, oh Gaseous One.... (-:< CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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