I'm willing to give it a go, but I have to finish the BAM! project first, otherwise I'd be working on two projects at the same time, and available time is a problem.

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Willy

Actually You have everything that is needed all that is needed is a TEAM ID, People interested would need to drop their cross project ID into and entry form and then manully added into the team xml information on your side... The person hosting the Web Site could then go to the "private" url and export the stats for the users in the race "daily" then construct the text/graphics for position... That person would beside you be the only one that knows the URL...

The Second part is a Staggered Heat running partly concurrently No given Start time given but it just shows up... At the end of the second heat the scores are compared to look to see if some was not quite fair... The Rule would state if you started with ten machines you stay at ten machines... So in the Series of races, You could add a new machine in a follow on... once the data is exported it could be sorted by Class; Country, Single machine, 5 machine or OH MY GOD so many computers and no time to start them all....

I thought about this already, but I thought the problem with the way credits are granted make it a difficult thing to track.

If I would organize a race starting at 2006-07-01, people will stop sending results to the projects as soon as the deadlines allow it.

And a lot of WU's that report at the end of the race won't be counted as the credits are granted days (weeks) later.

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I also see a problem in the needed computing power. I know first hand what is needed to keep the stats up to date WITHOUT tracking a race. It won't be kind on the webserver that is tracking this race.

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Well, maybe you could code something to "close the gate" on units REPORTED after midnight on the last day but allow 1-2 weeks for the granted credit to catch up.

Who says the monthly contest has to start exactly on the 1st?

Just announce that this month's "race" started a couple of days ago -- and that it will end on a certain date +/- a couple of days.

The exact date will of course need to be stored in a mayonnaise jar on Funk & Wagnalls front porch.

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Sarge - Under message board preferences, there is an item called 'Filtered Users'. Just enter '30062' (Matt Davis' user#) and click [Add user to filter].

Very nice feature! Thanks Steve!

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I thought about this already, but I thought the problem with the way credits are granted make it a difficult thing to track.

If I would organize a race starting at 2006-07-01, people will stop sending results to the projects as soon as the deadlines allow it.

And a lot of WU's that report at the end of the race won't be counted as the credits are granted days (weeks) later.

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I also see a problem in the needed computing power. I know first hand what is needed to keep the stats up to date WITHOUT tracking a race. It won't be kind on the webserver that is tracking this race.

That's a two-sided issue. If I want to lead the race for July, any "trick" is going to hurt my standings for June.

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Sarge - Under message board preferences, there is an item called 'Filtered Users'. Just enter '30062' (Matt Davis' user#) and click [Add user to filter].

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http://www.setiusa.net

Nice semantics. It is and isn't my fault. Kind of like the strike is but really isn't happening 8)

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I never said because it came from you.

"Your wording of the post itself keeps me from even wanting to try to be positive about it."

LOL

Now you have it. Not because it came from Matt, but because of Matt's poor choice of words. A big difference there. :)

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I never said because it came from you.

"Your wording of the post itself keeps me from even wanting to try to be positive about it."

LOL

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I never said because it came from you.

"The problem is that you and your flair for grating on ones nerves will most probably keep people from doing so. Your wording of the post itself keeps me from even wanting to try to be positive about it."

LOL

You seem to have forgotten an important part when you quoted so I added it back for you. :)

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A lot of you think Seti credits are the primary goal in life. While I think that is... adorable... maybe demanding UCB to cater to you isn't the answer.

Why not get a private website, like a current stats site, or a new one, have races? For example, what I have in mind is sort of like heats in a swimming meet. The site will start recording stats at midnight on June 15th (for example), and the competition will be one month long. At the end of that you can see who the fastest is, or who accumulated the most credits [edit: over the course of that month alone]. That way people get their competition without trying to ruin the totals most people like me have worked hard to build.

When 1 month is over, a new one can start, etc. etc. Credit mongers can then try to work their way up the charts [edit: as they try and get more and more credits over each heat].

No, but thanks anyways. I prefer to compete the traditional way

Ummm... okay. It's not like it's mandatory...

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A lot of you think Seti credits are the primary goal in life. While I think that is... adorable... maybe demanding UCB to cater to you isn't the answer.

Why not get a private website, like a current stats site, or a new one, have races? For example, what I have in mind is sort of like heats in a swimming meet. The site will start recording stats at midnight on June 15th (for example), and the competition will be one month long. At the end of that you can see who the fastest is, or who accumulated the most credits [edit: over the course of that month alone]. That way people get their competition without trying to ruin the totals most people like me have worked hard to build.

When 1 month is over, a new one can start, etc. etc. Credit mongers can then try to work their way up the charts [edit: as they try and get more and more credits over each heat].

No, but thanks anyways. I prefer to compete the traditional way

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I never said because it came from you.

"The problem is that you and your flair for grating on ones nerves will most probably keep people from doing so."

LOL

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A lot of you think Seti credits are the primary goal in life. While I think that is... adorable... maybe demanding UCB to cater to you isn't the answer.

Why not get a private website, like a current stats site, or a new one, have races? For example, what I have in mind is sort of like heats in a swimming meet. The site will start recording stats at midnight on June 15th (for example), and the competition will be one month long. At the end of that you can see who the fastest is, or who accumulated the most credits [edit: over the course of that month alone]. That way people get their competition without trying to ruin the totals most people like me have worked hard to build.

When 1 month is over, a new one can start, etc. etc. Credit mongers can then try to work their way up the charts [edit: as they try and get more and more credits over each heat].

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Oh no! People won't take a good idea because it came from me!

They're dying in the desert but won't take the water I offer!

It's a good idea. You can take it and run with it if you want. You can ignore it if you want. No skin off my nose :)

I have to laugh at this because as usual you twisted my words (but I should expect no less). I never said because it came from you. I don't even know you as a person. I only know you by the words you use here. In most cases it is your choice of wording that grates on one (almost as though you really enjoy fanning the flames). That should be apparent in the number of times you have been modded lately. :)

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Well, maybe you could code something to "close the gate" on units REPORTED after midnight on the last day but allow 1-2 weeks for the granted credit to catch up.

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I thought about this already, but I thought the problem with the way credits are granted make it a difficult thing to track.

If I would organize a race starting at 2006-07-01, people will stop sending results to the projects as soon as the deadlines allow it.

And a lot of WU's that report at the end of the race won't be counted as the credits are granted days (weeks) later.

Good points. However if we make it clear to start with the conditions under which the credits are reported, etc. then that shouldn't be a problem. Once the new application's credit reporting gets settled down, etc. then pending credits at the start should just about equal the ones left over at the end so it should average out.
Besides, as Matt said, it's just an idea, but one that seems to have merit. And people wouldn't have to worry so much with them here. It would be where a group of people could join a race and be starting out even regardless of their current SETI score. (This could also be used for other projects, it'd just mean a little more coding and record keeping.)
Any more ideas?

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Jim

Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had.
Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had.

You're completely right, Willy. Credit mongers would disrupt projects by withholding units only to unleash them when the race started.

Oh well.

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I thought about this already, but I thought the problem with the way credits are granted make it a difficult thing to track.

If I would organize a race starting at 2006-07-01, people will stop sending results to the projects as soon as the deadlines allow it.

And a lot of WU's that report at the end of the race won't be counted as the credits are granted days (weeks) later.

Added to this post:
I also see a problem in the needed computing power. I know first hand what is needed to keep the stats up to date WITHOUT tracking a race. It won't be kind on the webserver that is tracking this race.

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Someone would have to code something to keep track of stats from midnight one day to midnight a month later, but I can't imagine that would be too hard.

No, it shouldn't be too hard. I could probably brush up on my shell and php scripting and throw something together. I've got some things to do today but I'll look into it tonight. I've done some very basic "c" programming and ported/upgraded a few applications written in "c" but I don't consider myself capable of doing something like this in "c". However I believe a few shell scripts and php would be sufficient to do what would be required. Matter of fact, I run "phpbb" on my site and it might be easier to code something in php that works in with that, since that already has logins and user accounts, etc. I might could write a php script that works with that. That would eliminate all of the effort of keeping track of the different users, etc. And there might be a "hack" for it that we can use already written. I already have an "auction" hack a "store" hack, "credits for posting", and things like that. I might be able to modify those to work! All I would need is a way to log onto a stats site and get a users credits. I already have an rss reader built in, so that may be very possible! If I can find a stats site that sends stats as an rss feed. Know of one by any chance?

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Some people plan their life out and look back at the wealth they've had.
Others live life day by day and look back at the wealth of experiences and enjoyment they've had.