Seems he's caught a bunch of grief that last week or so..

Rom has expressed views from afar (not relly a home boy on the entire project).

And Matt is off installing stuff, or touring, depending on which post is most current.

My real question, is where is Dr Dave? The project, or at least the forums, are kind of imploding right now.

And from a AP Story about Rosetta, a quote from Dr Dave:

'David P. Anderson, director of the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing, said Baker's lab has done a particularly good job of connecting the participants to the science. "Hopefully, Rosetta is setting a standard that the other projects will have to live up to if they want to hold on to their participants," Anderson said.'

Seems Dr Dave doesn't really think that Seti/Boinc can match Rosetta in pleasing it's users.

Otherwise, Dr Dave would have posted here in an attempt to pull Eric's butt out of the fire.

Doesn't surprise me, as Dr Dave doesn't seem to interact with with the "peon crunchers" here. He's got $250,000 in donations, so he probably took his wife on a cruise...

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When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

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Seems he's caught a bunch of grief that last week or so..

Rom has expressed views from afar (not relly a home boy on the entire project).

And Matt is off installing stuff, or touring, depending on which post is most current.

My real question, is where is Dr Dave? The project, or at least the forums, are kind of imploding right now.

And from a AP Story about Rosetta, a quote from Dr Dave:

'David P. Anderson, director of the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing, said Baker's lab has done a particularly good job of connecting the participants to the science. "Hopefully, Rosetta is setting a standard that the other projects will have to live up to if they want to hold on to their participants," Anderson said.'

Seems Dr Dave doesn't really think that Seti/Boinc can match Rosetta in pleasing it's users.

Otherwise, Dr Dave would have posted here in an attempt to pull Eric's butt out of the fire.

Doesn't surprise me, as Dr Dave doesn't seem to interact with with the "peon crunchers" here. He's got $250,000 in donations, so he probably took his wife on a cruise...

Probably more like being at home helping his wife with their first born.

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----- Rom
BOINC Development Team, U.C. Berkeley
My Blog

When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

At least I'm smart enough to sound not like a fool in these forums!

I did DC long before a bunch of programmer "want a be" types tried to claim that Boinc was the neatest thing since sliced bread.

We can all see that Seti/Boinc is right now in a great state, right?

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When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

At least I'm smart enough to sound not like a fool in these forums!

I did DC long before a bunch of programmer "want a be" types tried to claim that Boinc was the neatest thing since sliced bread.

We can all see that Seti/Boinc is right now in a great state, right?

Oh, I Forgot, your the great programmer. Sorry, I forgot about that. Your better than the people at UCB. You have all the fixes, all the answers. I still run 15 projects, althought some have no work or are down, but yet BOINC works just fine on my end. I never could figure out why you have such a problem with it. All of my projects switch when supposed to, give the proper resource share, request the right amount of work for .1 days for 10-15 projects, or however many have work. I don't understand AZ, I really don't.

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Seems he's caught a bunch of grief that last week or so..

Rom has expressed views from afar (not relly a home boy on the entire project).

And Matt is off installing stuff, or touring, depending on which post is most current.

My real question, is where is Dr Dave? The project, or at least the forums, are kind of imploding right now.

And from a AP Story about Rosetta, a quote from Dr Dave:

'David P. Anderson, director of the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing, said Baker's lab has done a particularly good job of connecting the participants to the science. "Hopefully, Rosetta is setting a standard that the other projects will have to live up to if they want to hold on to their participants," Anderson said.'

Seems Dr Dave doesn't really think that Seti/Boinc can match Rosetta in pleasing it's users.

Otherwise, Dr Dave would have posted here in an attempt to pull Eric's butt out of the fire.

Doesn't surprise me, as Dr Dave doesn't seem to interact with with the "peon crunchers" here. He's got $250,000 in donations, so he probably took his wife on a cruise...

Probably more like being at home helping his wife with their first born.

Congrats on a "mini Dr Dave", but he's not, as the project director, posted here in how long? (atleast in a way that it was clear that it was "Dr Dave").

The baby isn't an excuse, as Anderson has shown over the years, that he as the project director, doesn't really back up what he said in the AP ariticle, with his own project.

So he's had diaper duty for a week or two. How does that explain the last few years?

The fact that there's a boycott of his project, while he's got diaper duty, still doesn't exlain not a post or two to help out Eric.

Sorry Rom, but he's in charge of a project with a large amount of funding, that now seems to have only Eric as a "official" project spoaksman, during a boycott.

Is the baby filling diapers 24/7? Seems he might have a few minutes to address issues, if he really cared....

That is one of the big problems with Seti/Boinc. A staff (including the director), that really could give a darn, about the users, or the rest of the project staff.

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Probably more like being at home helping his wife with their first born.

Flashback to Baby of the Day.

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When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

At least I'm smart enough to sound not like a fool in these forums!

I did DC long before a bunch of programmer "want a be" types tried to claim that Boinc was the neatest thing since sliced bread.

We can all see that Seti/Boinc is right now in a great state, right?

Oh, I Forgot, your the great programmer. Sorry, I forgot about that. Your better than the people at UCB. You have all the fixes, all the answers. I still run 15 projects, althought some have no work or are down, but yet BOINC works just fine on my end. I never could figure out why you have such a problem with it. All of my projects switch when supposed to, give the proper resource share, request the right amount of work for .1 days for 10-15 projects, or however many have work. I don't understand AZ, I really don't.

No, you don't understand...

You have no concept of what it takes to be a good programmer.

And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

Dang.. I never realized that people made statements like yours, except on "judge Judy"!

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When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

At least I'm smart enough to sound not like a fool in these forums!

I did DC long before a bunch of programmer "want a be" types tried to claim that Boinc was the neatest thing since sliced bread.

We can all see that Seti/Boinc is right now in a great state, right?

Oh, I Forgot, your the great programmer. Sorry, I forgot about that. Your better than the people at UCB. You have all the fixes, all the answers. I still run 15 projects, althought some have no work or are down, but yet BOINC works just fine on my end. I never could figure out why you have such a problem with it. All of my projects switch when supposed to, give the proper resource share, request the right amount of work for .1 days for 10-15 projects, or however many have work. I don't understand AZ, I really don't.

No, you don't understand...

You have no concept of what it takes to be a good programmer.

And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

Dang.. I never realized that people made statements like yours, except on "judge Judy"!

I understand perfectly fine. And I could care less about having a concept of programming, you know why? Cause it doesn't interest me. I'm happy it interests you. But, you have no proof that your a better programmer.

Oh, and ouch, please, stop with the insults. Judge Judy. I figured you'd come up with something a whole lot better than that. Your losing your touch.

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And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

One of the first things I learned a long time ago is skill has nothing to do with the length of someones career.

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----- Rom
BOINC Development Team, U.C. Berkeley
My Blog

When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

At least I'm smart enough to sound not like a fool in these forums!

I did DC long before a bunch of programmer "want a be" types tried to claim that Boinc was the neatest thing since sliced bread.

We can all see that Seti/Boinc is right now in a great state, right?

Oh, I Forgot, your the great programmer. Sorry, I forgot about that. Your better than the people at UCB. You have all the fixes, all the answers. I still run 15 projects, althought some have no work or are down, but yet BOINC works just fine on my end. I never could figure out why you have such a problem with it. All of my projects switch when supposed to, give the proper resource share, request the right amount of work for .1 days for 10-15 projects, or however many have work. I don't understand AZ, I really don't.

No, you don't understand...

You have no concept of what it takes to be a good programmer.

And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

Dang.. I never realized that people made statements like yours, except on "judge Judy"!

I understand perfectly fine. And I could care less about having a concept of programming, you know why? Cause it doesn't interest me. I'm happy it interests you. But, you have no proof that your a better programmer.

Oh, and ouch, please, stop with the insults. Judge Judy. I figured you'd come up with something a whole lot better than that. Your losing your touch.

I'll take that as "you're right.. I'll take my ball and go home, and keep crunching and always think that UCB is right", without any knowledge.

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When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

At least I'm smart enough to sound not like a fool in these forums!

I did DC long before a bunch of programmer "want a be" types tried to claim that Boinc was the neatest thing since sliced bread.

We can all see that Seti/Boinc is right now in a great state, right?

Oh, I Forgot, your the great programmer. Sorry, I forgot about that. Your better than the people at UCB. You have all the fixes, all the answers. I still run 15 projects, althought some have no work or are down, but yet BOINC works just fine on my end. I never could figure out why you have such a problem with it. All of my projects switch when supposed to, give the proper resource share, request the right amount of work for .1 days for 10-15 projects, or however many have work. I don't understand AZ, I really don't.

No, you don't understand...

You have no concept of what it takes to be a good programmer.

And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

Dang.. I never realized that people made statements like yours, except on "judge Judy"!

I understand perfectly fine. And I could care less about having a concept of programming, you know why? Cause it doesn't interest me. I'm happy it interests you. But, you have no proof that your a better programmer.

Oh, and ouch, please, stop with the insults. Judge Judy. I figured you'd come up with something a whole lot better than that. Your losing your touch.

I'll take that as "you're right.. I'll take my ball and go home, and keep crunching and always think that UCB is right", without any knowledge.

Take it how you want. Your words, not mine. Have fun believing that the whole world is wrong and your right.

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And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

One of the first things I learned a long time ago is skill has nothing to do with the length of someones career.

And the "shortness" of ones employ with an specific employeer speaks volumes.

The definition of consultant:

"Some one that can tell you how to make love to a woman in 300 different ways, but has never been on a real date"

Reality check here Rom.

You won't be working for consulting fees from a project that has no money if you could get a six figure job doing real programming.

Why was it that you left Microsoft again? Was the stock option plan not up to your liking?

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And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

One of the first things I learned a long time ago is skill has nothing to do with the length of someones career.

And the "shortness" of ones employ with an specific employeer speaks volumes.

The definition of consultant:

"Some one that can tell you how to make love to a woman in 300 different ways, but has never been on a real date"

Okay, you lost me... I don't follow where you are trying to lead...

If you are trying to imply that I'm no longer an employee of the BOINC project because I have a contract gig with Rosetta you are wrong.

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----- Rom
BOINC Development Team, U.C. Berkeley
My Blog

When will you post something new AZ? And I'd like to know why your so damn bitter at the people at UCB? And, who the hell made you the President that can go around and demand answers? Go make a DC project, and see how easy it is to keep it running, then come back and do your complaining. Till then, shut up.

At least I'm smart enough to sound not like a fool in these forums!

I did DC long before a bunch of programmer "want a be" types tried to claim that Boinc was the neatest thing since sliced bread.

We can all see that Seti/Boinc is right now in a great state, right?

Oh, I Forgot, your the great programmer. Sorry, I forgot about that. Your better than the people at UCB. You have all the fixes, all the answers. I still run 15 projects, althought some have no work or are down, but yet BOINC works just fine on my end. I never could figure out why you have such a problem with it. All of my projects switch when supposed to, give the proper resource share, request the right amount of work for .1 days for 10-15 projects, or however many have work. I don't understand AZ, I really don't.

No, you don't understand...

You have no concept of what it takes to be a good programmer.

And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

Dang.. I never realized that people made statements like yours, except on "judge Judy"!

I understand perfectly fine. And I could care less about having a concept of programming, you know why? Cause it doesn't interest me. I'm happy it interests you. But, you have no proof that your a better programmer.

Oh, and ouch, please, stop with the insults. Judge Judy. I figured you'd come up with something a whole lot better than that. Your losing your touch.

I'll take that as "you're right.. I'll take my ball and go home, and keep crunching and always think that UCB is right", without any knowledge.

Take it how you want. Your words, not mine. Have fun believing that the whole world is wrong and your right.

I know that Seti/Boinc does not employ experienced programmers, and anyone who's been here for any time would also see that
. Rom's the best they got, but he's only doing a consultant gig.

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Eric has no backup...?

I wasn't aware that he needed any.

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And yes, I AM a better programmer than the kids at UCB, as I've been doing this longer than most of the kids have been alive.

One of the first things I learned a long time ago is skill has nothing to do with the length of someones career.

And the "shortness" of ones employ with an specific employeer speaks volumes.

The definition of consultant:

"Some one that can tell you how to make love to a woman in 300 different ways, but has never been on a real date"

Okay, you lost me... I don't follow where you are trying to lead...

If you are trying to imply that I'm no longer an employee of the BOINC project because I have a contract gig with Rosetta you are wrong.

So, are you saying that you're not a consultant to Seti/Boinc, but a full time employee?


If so, what is your cost in salery and benifits? Don't be shy, as this is public info with seti being a non proffit thing, and the folks that got green stars may want to know!

Do you earn more than Dr Dave?


Between you and Dr Dave, is there anything left from the money the green star folks gave to the project? As you seem to imply that you're not a consultant, but full time, and that will be a big cost, as you are a professional programmer!

I'm just curious

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I know that Seti/Boinc does not employ experienced programmers, and anyone who's been here for any time would also see that. Rom's the best they got, but he's only doing a consultant gig.

Just to undo some confusion here. I'm an employee of the BOINC project, plus a consultant gig for Rosetta and potentially more projects in the future.

Most of the projects I have delt with do not have much experience with Windows beyond just recompiling their application for Windows.

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----- Rom
BOINC Development Team, U.C. Berkeley
My Blog

So, are you saying that you're not a consultant to Seti/Boinc, but a full time employee?

If so, what is your cost in salery and benifits? Don't be shy, as this is public info with seti being a non proffit thing, and the folks that got green stars may want to know!

Do you earn more than Dr Dave?

Between you and Dr Dave, is there anything left from the money the green star folks gave to the project? As you seem to imply that you're not a consultant, but full time, and that will be a big cost, as you are a professional programmer!

I'm just curious

I'm not paid out of the SETI@Home funds. I'm paid out of the BOINC funds, always have been. BOINC and SETI@Home are different projects and so have different account numbers.

We have been through this at least ten times now woody, yet for some reason you keep lumping the funding together for both SETI@home and BOINC.

THEY ARE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND ARE FUNDED DIFFERENTLY.

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----- Rom
BOINC Development Team, U.C. Berkeley
My Blog

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