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Message 324088 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 0:40:06 UTC - in response to Message 324084.  
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http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1

^^ "cache"

crunch3r NEWS ^^ si boinc 5.5.0

29/05/2006 12:09:53||Running CPU benchmarks
29/05/2006 12:10:52||Benchmark results:
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| Number of CPUs: 1
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| 1962 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| 8398 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
29/05/2006 12:10:52||Finished CPU benchmarks

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=97567 CPUZ

non => version 5.11 et 5.12 pas télécharge

boincLogX 1.51 version et SETI@home-MapView version 6.54

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crunch3r et touy lol image

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when i not underdstanding all

Greetings to my Friend Arnold at France
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Greetings from Germany NRW
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Message 324093 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 0:43:27 UTC - in response to Message 324068.  

Yes, his home page had his farewell message. I see he is still kind enough to offer his apps.

I guess he emigrated to E@H.


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Message 324095 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 0:46:42 UTC - in response to Message 324088.  

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1

^^ "cache"

crunch3r NEWS ^^ si boinc 5.5.0

29/05/2006 12:09:53||Running CPU benchmarks
29/05/2006 12:10:52||Benchmark results:
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| Number of CPUs: 1
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| 1962 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| 8398 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
29/05/2006 12:10:52||Finished CPU benchmarks

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=97567 CPUZ

non => version 5.11 et 5.12 pas télécharge

boincLogX 1.51 version et SETI@home-MapView version 6.54

http://www.bjoernhenke.de/

crunch3r et touy lol image

SVP i am french ;)



when i not underdstanding all

Greetings to my Friend Arnold at France
:)

Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli




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it know boinc 5.4.9 continuation boinc 5.5.0 "crunch3r"
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Message 324102 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 0:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 324084.  

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1

^^ "cache"

crunch3r NEWS ^^ si boinc 5.5.0

29/05/2006 12:09:53||Running CPU benchmarks
29/05/2006 12:10:52||Benchmark results:
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| Number of CPUs: 1
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| 1962 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
29/05/2006 12:10:52|| 8398 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
29/05/2006 12:10:52||Finished CPU benchmarks

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=97567 CPUZ

non => version 5.11 et 5.12 pas t�l�charge

boincLogX 1.51 version et SETI@home-MapView version 6.54

http://www.bjoernhenke.de/

crunch3r et touy lol image

SVP i am french ;)



Merci monsieur aimable de votre message. Je manquerai crunch3r et le sien aide. J'ai pensé que j'avais sauvé la page Web, mais lui avais perdu. Encore, merci. Désolé mon Français est si mauvais. J'utilise un traducteur. Christophe.
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Message 324163 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 1:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 323985.  
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I think everyone who uses Crunch's app (or just thinks he has been wronged) should join the boycott. As soon as I get home from work, I'm stopping all new work.

I will not process again until things have been made right for Crunch.


I'm with you, where can I sign? ( sorry for my english )

I have stopped all my computers, 5 brand new Pentium D PCs until Crunch3r have his appologies, coz him, I came back after some years on this project because the speed of its optimized programs.

now Seti@home have less 5.000 dairy points from my computers,

I'm going to chunch for E@H as crunch3r did!

Best Regards!

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Message 324175 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 1:25:45 UTC - in response to Message 324084.  

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1

^^ "cache"



There you go. The official reason(s).


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Message 324177 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 1:26:33 UTC - in response to Message 324163.  

I think everyone who uses Crunch's app (or just thinks he has been wronged) should join the boycott. As soon as I get home from work, I'm stopping all new work.

I will not process again until things have been made right for Crunch.


I'm with you, where can I sign? ( sorry for my english )

I have stopped all my computers, 5 brand new Pentium D PCs until Crunch3r have his appologies, coz him, I came back after some years on this project because the speed of its optimized programs.

now Seti@home have less 5.000 dairy points from my computers,

I'm going to chunch for E@H as crunch3r did!

Best Regards!

Rafael Valente


Thanks for joining the Dark Side. ;-)



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Message 324239 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 2:05:40 UTC - in response to Message 324068.  

Yes, his home page had his farewell message. I see he is still kind enough to offer his apps.

I guess he emigrated to E@H.


Nope his apps are no longer available for download

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Message 324248 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 2:11:25 UTC - in response to Message 324177.  

I think everyone who uses Crunch's app (or just thinks he has been wronged) should join the boycott. As soon as I get home from work, I'm stopping all new work.

I will not process again until things have been made right for Crunch.


I'm with you, where can I sign? ( sorry for my english )

I have stopped all my computers, 5 brand new Pentium D PCs until Crunch3r have his appologies, coz him, I came back after some years on this project because the speed of its optimized programs.

now Seti@home have less 5.000 dairy points from my computers,

I'm going to chunch for E@H as crunch3r did!

Best Regards!

Rafael Valente


Thanks for joining the Dark Side. ;-)


As you wish "my Lord" LOLOLOLOL!!!

Converted all PC to E@H, bye-Bye SETI until this issue with our friend Crunch3r be resolved. Until there, only E@H will score.

Best Regards,

Rafael Valente

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Message 324283 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 2:34:13 UTC - in response to Message 324031.  

No other threads on here have been deleted (hidden) by me since that time.

Of course not. They were deleted (hidden) by you before that time.
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Message 324292 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 2:37:03 UTC - in response to Message 324084.  

His site now redirects to Einstein@home. And who is UOTD? Why it's Akosf! The very person who was deservedly rewarded with a job! Perhaps it's time for Crunch3r to hook up with the Akosf and the Einstein team.
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Message 324341 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 3:13:59 UTC


I'm not in it for the science...only the competition.
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Message 324345 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 3:17:33 UTC - in response to Message 324341.  
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There's Your plus for the image, Pinky(Tony) and the Brain(Crunch3r), One is a Genius and the other(The mice, Not the guys), Well I think I'll leave the rest of the lyrics to Your imagination. LOL

That image is funny. rofl
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Message 324346 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 3:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 324341.  


nice graphic
Do you have anything of substance to add? Points to refute? I'm all ears (eyes).

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Message 324353 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 3:24:33 UTC - in response to Message 324346.  

Do you have anything of substance to add? Points to refute? I'm all ears (eyes).

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What's amazing to me is the big war about credits when the real issue of importance are all the great time saving optimized apps.
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Message 324359 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 3:28:22 UTC - in response to Message 324353.  
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Do you have anything of substance to add? Points to refute? I'm all ears (eyes).

tony

What's amazing to me is the big war about credits when the real issue of importance are all the great time saving optimized apps.

Misfit, don't misunderstand me. I encouraged the use of Optimized Application with old seti. I also encourage the use of optimized apps with SE. On the old Seti, claimed credit was determined by the Boinc Daemon, on the new SE it's determined by the Application. As long as the multiplier is 3.35 (or whatever Eric determines is fair across all projects)I have NO problem with optimized apps with SE. I even thought of using them myself.

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Message 324365 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 3:30:42 UTC

Let me get this straight. Crunch3r quit because mmciastro called him a cheat.

Is there anything im missing here?
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Message 324393 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 3:48:04 UTC - in response to Message 324283.  
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No other threads on here have been deleted (hidden) by me since that time.

Of course not. They were deleted (hidden) by you before that time.

LOL

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Message 324448 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 4:07:54 UTC
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Crunch3r probbly quit, because he made it pretty obvious that he was unhappy with the real optimisers of the Seti code who had made their code and ideas available to Eric Korpela for the enhanced application. Because this meant that his optimised applications would not give the large boost to credit gained.

This happened several moths ago, and he was put in his place then, this thread as far as I can see, has also been pulled.

If the official enhanced code had not been optimised, and my thanks to all those that enabled it, then on a P4 3.x GHz we would have been looking, on average, at 30+ hours per unit. Not the 4 to 5 hours now achieved.

When enhanced was released here, it was version 5.12, where the multiplication factor in the credits calculation is 3.25. But Crunched used and released here a version 5.11 with a multiplication factor of 7.

Crunch3r was the one person who by making and releasing optimised enhanced applications should have been aware of the multiplication factor, and should have ensured as far as possible that this version was not released and used here on the main Seti site. This he failed to do. He even had version 5.11 on his site long after a warning had been given to people who overclaimed using fpops credit calculation.

Why was 5.11 released here and used by Crunch3r on this site?

The optimisation achieved, by Crunch3r, on enhanced, as far as I can gather, is to remove the graphics code and use the Intel compiler.

So if anybody has legal access to or owns a copy of the Intel compiler can probably make optimised applications, just a well as Crunch3r. Just make sure you follow the rules if you release it and include the Authors, Copying, Copyright and Readme files as required by Seti. Something that Crunch3r had to be reminded of several times.

So was Tony's question, possibly a bit strong, justified?

I would probably say yes.

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Message 324479 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 4:17:19 UTC

Urrghhh.

Once again:

All seti download sites have various older and newer versions available for download.
This is quite usual and doesn't imply zilch!

Those "important" files missing from Crunch3r's first ZIPs have been aptly called "crap" by Tony in one of his posts.

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