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Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 |
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1 when i not underdstanding all Greetings to my Friend Arnold at France :) Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli |
Martino Send message Joined: 27 May 01 Posts: 12 Credit: 7,669,803 RAC: 0 |
Yes, his home page had his farewell message. I see he is still kind enough to offer his apps. Make it so... |
[AF>france>pas-de-calais]symaski62 Send message Joined: 12 Aug 05 Posts: 258 Credit: 100,548 RAC: 0 |
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1 (( 9. Do not use offensive language )) http://babelfish.altavista.com/ thank you English:) translation it know boinc 5.4.9 continuation boinc 5.5.0 "crunch3r" SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow with a general handicap of 80% and it makes much d' efforts for the community and s' expimer, thank you d' to be understanding. |
cdr100560 Send message Joined: 12 May 06 Posts: 681 Credit: 65,502 RAC: 0 |
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1 Merci monsieur aimable de votre message. Je manquerai crunch3r et le sien aide. J'ai pensé que j'avais sauvé la page Web, mais lui avais perdu. Encore, merci. Désolé mon Français est si mauvais. J'utilise un traducteur. Christophe. |
Rafael Cesare Valente "CrackBoy" Send message Joined: 28 Nov 04 Posts: 38 Credit: 468,002 RAC: 0 |
I think everyone who uses Crunch's app (or just thinks he has been wronged) should join the boycott. As soon as I get home from work, I'm stopping all new work. I'm with you, where can I sign? ( sorry for my english ) I have stopped all my computers, 5 brand new Pentium D PCs until Crunch3r have his appologies, coz him, I came back after some years on this project because the speed of its optimized programs. now Seti@home have less 5.000 dairy points from my computers, I'm going to chunch for E@H as crunch3r did! Best Regards! Rafael Valente |
Lord_Vader Send message Joined: 7 May 05 Posts: 217 Credit: 10,386,105 RAC: 12 |
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:uOLqC991NOoJ:calbe.dw70.de/+crunch3r+goodbye&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1 There you go. The official reason(s). Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station. - Grand Moff Tarkin |
Lord_Vader Send message Joined: 7 May 05 Posts: 217 Credit: 10,386,105 RAC: 12 |
I think everyone who uses Crunch's app (or just thinks he has been wronged) should join the boycott. As soon as I get home from work, I'm stopping all new work. Thanks for joining the Dark Side. ;-) Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station. - Grand Moff Tarkin |
kevint Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 414 Credit: 11,680,240 RAC: 0 |
Yes, his home page had his farewell message. I see he is still kind enough to offer his apps. Nope his apps are no longer available for download |
Rafael Cesare Valente "CrackBoy" Send message Joined: 28 Nov 04 Posts: 38 Credit: 468,002 RAC: 0 |
I think everyone who uses Crunch's app (or just thinks he has been wronged) should join the boycott. As soon as I get home from work, I'm stopping all new work. As you wish "my Lord" LOLOLOLOL!!! Converted all PC to E@H, bye-Bye SETI until this issue with our friend Crunch3r be resolved. Until there, only E@H will score. Best Regards, Rafael Valente |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
No other threads on here have been deleted (hidden) by me since that time. Of course not. They were deleted (hidden) by you before that time. me@rescam.org |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
His site now redirects to Einstein@home. And who is UOTD? Why it's Akosf! The very person who was deservedly rewarded with a job! Perhaps it's time for Crunch3r to hook up with the Akosf and the Einstein team. me@rescam.org |
Sandtiger@seti.usa Send message Joined: 24 Feb 06 Posts: 37 Credit: 560,736 RAC: 0 |
I'm not in it for the science...only the competition. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66194 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
+ There's Your plus for the image, Pinky(Tony) and the Brain(Crunch3r), One is a Genius and the other(The mice, Not the guys), Well I think I'll leave the rest of the lyrics to Your imagination. LOL That image is funny. rofl Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
nice graphic Do you have anything of substance to add? Points to refute? I'm all ears (eyes). tony |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Do you have anything of substance to add? Points to refute? I'm all ears (eyes). What's amazing to me is the big war about credits when the real issue of importance are all the great time saving optimized apps. me@rescam.org |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
Do you have anything of substance to add? Points to refute? I'm all ears (eyes). Misfit, don't misunderstand me. I encouraged the use of Optimized Application with old seti. I also encourage the use of optimized apps with SE. On the old Seti, claimed credit was determined by the Boinc Daemon, on the new SE it's determined by the Application. As long as the multiplier is 3.35 (or whatever Eric determines is fair across all projects)I have NO problem with optimized apps with SE. I even thought of using them myself. tony |
Mahbubur Send message Joined: 6 Apr 06 Posts: 10 Credit: 6,760 RAC: 0 |
Let me get this straight. Crunch3r quit because mmciastro called him a cheat. Is there anything im missing here? |
Digger Send message Joined: 4 Dec 99 Posts: 614 Credit: 21,053 RAC: 0 |
No other threads on here have been deleted (hidden) by me since that time. LOL |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19308 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Crunch3r probbly quit, because he made it pretty obvious that he was unhappy with the real optimisers of the Seti code who had made their code and ideas available to Eric Korpela for the enhanced application. Because this meant that his optimised applications would not give the large boost to credit gained. This happened several moths ago, and he was put in his place then, this thread as far as I can see, has also been pulled. If the official enhanced code had not been optimised, and my thanks to all those that enabled it, then on a P4 3.x GHz we would have been looking, on average, at 30+ hours per unit. Not the 4 to 5 hours now achieved. When enhanced was released here, it was version 5.12, where the multiplication factor in the credits calculation is 3.25. But Crunched used and released here a version 5.11 with a multiplication factor of 7. Crunch3r was the one person who by making and releasing optimised enhanced applications should have been aware of the multiplication factor, and should have ensured as far as possible that this version was not released and used here on the main Seti site. This he failed to do. He even had version 5.11 on his site long after a warning had been given to people who overclaimed using fpops credit calculation. Why was 5.11 released here and used by Crunch3r on this site? The optimisation achieved, by Crunch3r, on enhanced, as far as I can gather, is to remove the graphics code and use the Intel compiler. So if anybody has legal access to or owns a copy of the Intel compiler can probably make optimised applications, just a well as Crunch3r. Just make sure you follow the rules if you release it and include the Authors, Copying, Copyright and Readme files as required by Seti. Something that Crunch3r had to be reminded of several times. So was Tony's question, possibly a bit strong, justified? I would probably say yes. Andy |
Hans Dorn Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2262 Credit: 26,448,570 RAC: 0 |
Urrghhh. Once again: All seti download sites have various older and newer versions available for download. This is quite usual and doesn't imply zilch! Those "important" files missing from Crunch3r's first ZIPs have been aptly called "crap" by Tony in one of his posts. Regards Hans |
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