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Message 332394 - Posted: 9 Jun 2006, 18:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 332125.  
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Und zu Jochen:
Even in Seti WUs af different angle range have to be measured with different points/credits to be fair.

That far I do agree. But where to stop this? Don't I deserve more credits per hour, if I use an optimized client and do the same amount of work, only in a shorter time? (Please don't answer to this, as it has already been discussed over and over... I just want to state, on which side I stand.)

As the most fun with BOINC is the multiple project aspect, it's even more important to get it even.

I see the logic behind this. But I still do not agree, as long, as it comes at the cost of the possibility to do a project internal comparision.
There would have been better ways to solve that problems.

But it is not the credits situation, why I stopped running SETI. It is the whole situation and the way it has been handled by the staff.

But don't worry, I still crunch for SG (Rosetta and Einstein).
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Message 333163 - Posted: 10 Jun 2006, 17:22:40 UTC

Hi,

here is what I get with my AMD XP 2000+ (Win98 SE).

Standard Boinc client 5.4.9
Standard applications

SETI@home 5.15 (average of 8 results):
cc/h: 5.10
gc/h: 5.10

Einstein@home Albert 4.37 (average of 11 results):
cc/h: 8.65
gc/h: 7.09

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Message 333199 - Posted: 10 Jun 2006, 19:03:14 UTC

Things need to be worked out yet: With just one of my two PD950 machines I get something like 22 credits per hour for half-hour units, 14 credits per hour for three-to-four hour ones and only 7.5 credits per hour for 8-hour units. This is entirely within Seti: a factor of three at least. No telling what that would have done with cancer, AIDS, Einstein or CPDN. I've never tried any other project. This looks pretty typical with me, too. It looks like a pattern. There is the graph tray and occasional fifties music. I don't know how much these affect PD950s. I'm sure they would've really hurt PIII 450s but that is a bygone.
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Message 333344 - Posted: 10 Jun 2006, 23:48:37 UTC - in response to Message 332394.  

But it is not the credits situation, why I stopped running SETI. It is the whole situation and the way it has been handled by the staff.

The only mistake made by the staff was assuming most people here were adults & were capable of behaving accordingly.
And i still feel their time is better spent developing the system than dealing with children with upset egos.
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Message 333929 - Posted: 11 Jun 2006, 14:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 333344.  

But it is not the credits situation, why I stopped running SETI. It is the whole situation and the way it has been handled by the staff.

The only mistake made by the staff was assuming most people here were adults & were capable of behaving accordingly.
And i still feel their time is better spent developing the system than dealing with children with upset egos.

Our "egos" as you call it, did not become involved until we started being belittled and demeaned and called names, much as you are doing now. We came here to address certain issues (which I thought was one of the main purposes of this MB) and tried to do so in as profesional a manner as we could. It was some of the regulars here who started acting like children with the name calling and such. And apparently it is going to continue.

Eric, please do not forget to check with the rest of the team about a way to ensure better moderation. I still think a complete sweep of all moderators and a way of voting on their effectiveness to put/keep them in office is the way to go.


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Message 334164 - Posted: 11 Jun 2006, 21:44:33 UTC - in response to Message 333929.  

Our "egos" as you call it, did not become involved until we started being belittled and demeaned and called names, much as you are doing now.

Old ground, waste of time responding.


I still think a complete sweep of all moderators and a way of voting on their effectiveness to put/keep them in office is the way to go.

Considering the stupidity that went on the the post rating, there is no way that would work.
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Message 334218 - Posted: 11 Jun 2006, 22:22:31 UTC - in response to Message 334164.  

I still think a complete sweep of all moderators and a way of voting on their effectiveness to put/keep them in office is the way to go.

Considering the stupidity that went on the the post rating, there is no way that would work.

So you may think, but Eric has agreed to look into it and you may end up stuck with it or something similar before it is over. Based on my e-mails to Dr. Anderson about the issues, he may well be a driving force on the issue as well. So please, go into the corner and hold your breath.


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Message 334238 - Posted: 11 Jun 2006, 22:33:06 UTC - in response to Message 334218.  

So please, go into the corner and hold your breath.

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Message 334252 - Posted: 11 Jun 2006, 22:40:34 UTC - in response to Message 334218.  

So please, go into the corner and hold your breath.

started being belittled and demeaned and called names, much as you are doing now.

Glad to see you're so mature these days.

BTW- my previous post about children with upset egos was refering to both sides. That you assumed it was directed at you- well, i suggest you think about that for a while.
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Message 334305 - Posted: 11 Jun 2006, 23:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 334252.  

So please, go into the corner and hold your breath.

started being belittled and demeaned and called names, much as you are doing now.

Glad to see you're so mature these days.

BTW- my previous post about children with upset egos was refering to both sides. That you assumed it was directed at you- well, i suggest you think about that for a while.

I made no assumption that it was directed at me. It does not matter who you directed it at, it still is uncalled for and unprofessional. It is that kind of thing that caused so much heartache and discontent on the MB and you are just continuing it. So do us all a favor and cut it out.


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Message 334311 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 0:06:33 UTC

Is there any way for moderators to move messages to a different thread? Here, for example, we’ve been asked to post data, and it must be annoying having to hunt for the actual statistics being contributed here and there. Not that the peripheral discussion has been entirely unproductive, let alone particularly offensive, but there are plenty of other threads where it would be more topical.
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Message 334331 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 0:37:11 UTC
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I know that you saw this in the Spreadsheet made a comment or I did about the oddity, but the more I look at it could a quasi typical machine in the environment... And the longer it runs in this fashion the more interesting it gets...

The good part the Quorum is taking care of part of the Credit Claim... The machine does not have enough data points to see if anyone is getting anything by... 4.45 is not the healthiest for the Enhanced operation... The Credit claims are based on the benchmark and the quorum takes care of things or I am missing something. What I really think I see is the Credit Claims are based on the benchmark...

I will attempt insure I do not loose any results before the outage... The spreadsheet is almost double of the first one I sent... On machine is moved from Seti to Einstein and will get that data in...

The last note is some machines are getting larger than 30% credit difference to the AR... It is affect by the CPU type and speed...

I guess in some circumstances you need to setup a query or two in beta...
If users can start tracking Beta and Seti differences in the same fashion then into some form of spreadsheet or something that would export a CSV file... Seti Proper is tougher as the Results get removed weekly (I cursed that, it almost made me quite keeping information a couple of times)...

I apologize to everyone this is going to cause a scroll bar...

Laptop Intel Mobile 1.6 Ghz (pinned to 1.6) 1 Gig of RAM and normally does tons of stuff besides Seti
BOINC Core Client 4.45 (pinned to 5.12 App due to "app_info.xml" file)

Version	Angel R	Result ID	WU ID   	Sent            	Reported	State	Outcome	State	CPU time	CC	GC	C/H	G/H

5.12	0.4264	338804138	81153980	7 Jun 2006 18:06:17 UTC	10 Jun 2006 17:13:59 UTC	Over	Success	Done	48,019.62	81.97	62.36	6.1452	4.6751
5.12	0.7493	338575464	81098540	7 Jun 2006 8:45:12 UTC	10 Jun 2006 17:13:59 UTC	Over	Success	Done	30,073.80	51.33	32.27	6.1445	3.8629
5.12	6.1401	338351223	81060056	7 Jun 2006 1:30:29 UTC	10 Jun 2006 17:13:13 UTC	Over	Success	Done	11,220.58	19.15	12.54	6.1441	4.0233
5.12	0.4286	338245505	81036160	6 Jun 2006 22:02:58 UTC	10 Jun 2006 17:13:13 UTC	Over	Success	Done	47,879.48	81.73	62.05	6.1452	4.6655
5.12	1.3001	338194391	81024631	6 Jun 2006 17:23:19 UTC	7 Jun 2006 19:42:07 UTC	Over	Success	Done	13,475.18	22.76	18.45	6.0805	4.9291
5.12	0.4450	337596978	80939255	5 Jun 2006 22:57:03 UTC	7 Jun 2006 15:34:50 UTC	Over	Success	Done	46,061.28	77.8	60.43	6.0806	4.7230
5.12	-6	337471483	80910059	5 Jun 2006 17:02:01 UTC	7 Jun 2006 1:20:21 UTC	Over	Client error	Computing	0	0	---	#DIV/0!	#VALUE!
5.12	-6	337157988	80833095	5 Jun 2006 9:45:51 UTC	6 Jun 2006 22:02:58 UTC	Over	Client error	Computing	0	0	---	#DIV/0!	#VALUE!
5.12	0.5351	336565604	80691226	4 Jun 2006 10:09:10 UTC	6 Jun 2006 12:06:27 UTC	Over	Success	Done	42,522.36	71.82	52.75	6.0804	4.4659
5.12	0.6947	336146600	80593339	3 Jun 2006 14:38:44 UTC	5 Jun 2006 22:46:56 UTC	Over	Success	Done	30,838.30	52.09	33.83	6.0809	3.9492
5.12	6.8903	335985134	80553479	3 Jun 2006 6:13:49 UTC	4 Jun 2006 17:05:41 UTC	Over	Success	Done	7,592.66	12.82	13.96	6.0785	6.6190
5.12	0.1089	335730440	80493985	2 Jun 2006 16:39:03 UTC	5 Jun 2006 2:38:05 UTC	Over	Success	Done	77,408.39	130.74	104.28	6.0803	4.8497
5.12	0.6233	335227586	80372379	1 Jun 2006 15:31:22 UTC	3 Jun 2006 9:17:16 UTC	Over	Success	Done	37,185.80	62.81	48.36	6.0807	4.6818
5.12	0.6233	335227586	80372379	1 Jun 2006 15:31:22 UTC	3 Jun 2006 9:17:16 UTC	Over	Success	Done	37,185.80	62.81	pending	6.0807	#VALUE!
5.12	0.4211	334937968	80304270	1 Jun 2006 1:11:55 UTC	2 Jun 2006 21:53:47 UTC	Over	Success	Done	46,617.02	79.64	64.86	6.1502	5.0088
5.12	0.7392	334761934	80268977	31 May 2006 17:00:56 UTC	2 Jun 2006 7:23:17 UTC	Over	Success	Done	29,634.22	50.63	pending	6.1506	#VALUE!
5.12	0.4326	334359697	80175683	30 May 2006 22:21:32 UTC	1 Jun 2006 22:05:42 UTC	Over	Success	Done	44,699.96	76.37	61.33	6.1506	4.9393
5.12	0.9038	334074586	80120771	30 May 2006 2:48:36 UTC	31 May 2006 16:50:48 UTC	Over	Success	Done	28,406.02	48.53	29.16	6.1504	3.6956
5.12	0.5181	333720028	80037894	29 May 2006 8:31:08 UTC	30 May 2006 22:10:44 UTC	Over	Success	Done	41,318.90	70.59	53.71	6.1503	4.6796
5.12	0.5181	333720028	80037894	29 May 2006 8:31:08 UTC	30 May 2006 22:10:44 UTC	Over	Success	Done	41,318.90	70.59	53.71	6.1503	4.6796
5.12	0.4690	333257531	79926184	28 May 2006 10:09:17 UTC	30 May 2006 22:10:28 UTC	Over	Success	Done	45,397.43	77.56	58.4	6.1505	4.6311
5.12	0.469	333257531	79926184	28 May 2006 10:09:17 UTC	30 May 2006 22:10:28 UTC	Over	Success	Done	45,397.43	77.56	pending	6.1505	#VALUE!
5.12	0.6999	332876602	79837297	27 May 2006 16:39:46 UTC	28 May 2006 0:38:16 UTC	Over	Success	Done	25,955.12	43.26	33.73	6.0002	4.6784
5.12	-9	331680403	79557927	25 May 2006 8:58:37 UTC	26 May 2006 5:09:53 UTC	Over	Success	Done	5,131.76	8.55	2.86	5.9979	2.0063
5.12	-9	331291824	79465719	24 May 2006 14:45:31 UTC	26 May 2006 3:36:17 UTC	Over	Success	Done	6,590.10	10.98	4.28	5.9981	2.3381
5.12	0.4069	330857440	79367175	23 May 2006 20:50:54 UTC	26 May 2006 1:36:05 UTC	Over	Success	Done	46,751.07	77.91	64.11	5.9993	4.9367
5.12	4.7366	330560433	79294168	23 May 2006 2:33:15 UTC	24 May 2006 14:35:22 UTC	Over	Success	Done	11,334.45	18.89	12.79	5.9998	4.0623
5.12	0.4105	330167326	79203671	22 May 2006 5:53:06 UTC	25 May 2006 8:48:28 UTC	Over	Success	Done	56,069.99	93.45	77.08	6.0000	4.9490
5.12	0.0835	329775099	79114737	21 May 2006 7:28:19 UTC	24 May 2006 11:04:52 UTC	Over	Success	Done	104,225.95	173.7	98.8	5.9997	3.4126
5.12	0.0207	329548334	79059723	20 May 2006 19:13:33 UTC	23 May 2006 2:43:23 UTC	Over	Success	Done	40,086.87	67.69	27.31	6.0789	2.4526
5.12	0.0028	329328897	79016712	20 May 2006 8:29:17 UTC	22 May 2006 13:36:36 UTC	Over	Success	Done	79,257.59	133.83	58.69	6.0788	2.6658
5.12	0.5331	328976042	78931703	19 May 2006 13:25:54 UTC	21 May 2006 13:43:30 UTC	Over	Success	Done	39,524.83	66.74	52.66	6.0788	4.7964
5.12	0.4471	328582963	78855488	18 May 2006 19:20:30 UTC	21 May 2006 1:37:24 UTC	Over	Success	Done	43,918.56	74.16	60.19	6.0789	4.9338
5.12	0.9777	328449760	78823035	18 May 2006 12:44:43 UTC	20 May 2006 12:10:29 UTC	Over	Success	Done	26,868.97	45.37	27.97	6.0788	3.7475
5.12	0.4183	328186238	78759595	18 May 2006 0:19:49 UTC	20 May 2006 3:56:33 UTC	Over	Success	Done	43,696.15	73.78	64.92	6.0785	5.3486
5.12	0.4138	327533630	78627218	17 May 2006 9:19:26 UTC	19 May 2006 13:15:43 UTC	Over	Success	Done	73,728.27	124.49	64.22	6.0786	3.1357
4.18C		327455832	78608294	16 May 2006 18:38:31 UTC	18 May 2006 0:09:41 UTC	Over	Success	Done	5,911.86	9.98	6.01	6.0773	3.6598
5.12	0.4472	327342035	78580811	17 May 2006 0:09:03 UTC	18 May 2006 12:34:34 UTC	Over	Success	Done	40,484.10	68.35	60.17	6.0779	5.3505
5.12	0.4292	326778943	78447544	16 May 2006 4:58:01 UTC	17 May 2006 22:22:27 UTC	Over	Success	Done	40,073.22	67.66	61.97	6.0783	5.5671
5.12	0.5239	326090321	78281688	15 May 2006 4:35:24 UTC	16 May 2006 21:18:04 UTC	Over	Success	Done	40,314.19	68.07	53.65	6.0786	4.7909
5.12	0.4183	325661087	78178826	14 May 2006 14:17:39 UTC	16 May 2006 23:30:45 UTC	Over	Success	Done	46,804.55	79.03	64.56	6.0786	4.9657
4.18C		325084361	78041000	13 May 2006 17:10:34 UTC	14 May 2006 16:36:56 UTC	Over	Success	Done	7,513.65	12.69	32.3	6.0801	15.4758
4.18C		325007186	78022117	13 May 2006 14:59:35 UTC	14 May 2006 11:54:08 UTC	Over	Success	Done	7,578.66	12.8	33.35	6.0802	15.8419
4.18C		324110926	77807890	12 May 2006 12:23:22 UTC	13 May 2006 18:52:46 UTC	Over	Success	Done	5,901.75	10.3	32.09	6.2829	19.5745
5.12	0.5067	323537695	77673054	11 May 2006 22:31:31 UTC	13 May 2006 14:49:24 UTC	Over	Success	Done	41,640.56	72.64	63.1	6.2800	5.4553
5.12	0.4264	320986034	77070160	8 May 2006 11:45:42 UTC	10 May 2006 8:32:45 UTC	Over	Success	Done	46,282.81	80.74	62.4	6.2802	4.8536
5.12	0.4097	320739187	77010593	7 May 2006 20:51:42 UTC	9 May 2006 16:59:26 UTC	Over	Success	Done	46,582.70	81.26	63.83	6.2799	4.9329
4.18C		319644165	76744711	7 May 2006 5:26:01 UTC	7 May 2006 15:44:23 UTC	Over	Success	Done	5,958.73	10.06	10.06	6.0778	6.0778
4.18C		318425194	76446322	5 May 2006 11:58:41 UTC	5 May 2006 23:43:45 UTC	Over	Success	Done	5,945.56	10.04	19.98	6.0792	12.0978
4.18C		317290754	76176283	4 May 2006 11:23:56 UTC	5 May 2006 0:33:55 UTC	Over	Success	Done	7,512.07	12.69	12.69	6.0814	6.0814


If I look at BoincLogX files I suffer too much information... Although I will send you one to see if can be used... If so we have quite a few people that can give you data without extra hassle...

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Message 334337 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 0:43:44 UTC - in response to Message 334305.  
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BTW- my previous post about children with upset egos was refering to both sides. That you assumed it was directed at you- well, i suggest you think about that for a while.

I made no assumption that it was directed at me. It does not matter who you directed it at, it still is uncalled for and unprofessional. It is that kind of thing that caused so much heartache and discontent on the MB and you are just continuing it. So do us all a favor and cut it out.

*notices & agrees with Odysseus post & bites tounge*
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Message 334351 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 1:03:15 UTC - in response to Message 333199.  
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Things need to be worked out yet: With just one of my two PD950 machines I get something like 22 credits per hour for half-hour units, 14 credits per hour for three-to-four hour ones and only 7.5 credits per hour for 8-hour units. This is entirely within Seti: a factor of three at least. No telling what that would have done with cancer, AIDS, Einstein or CPDN. I've never tried any other project. This looks pretty typical with me, too. It looks like a pattern. There is the graph tray and occasional fifties music. I don't know how much these affect PD950s. I'm sure they would've really hurt PIII 450s but that is a bygone.


Here is a PII 350 I cranked for Beta I can add the PII 400... It was moved over here at Eric's request... It does not move very fast but it is moving... It is not the Slowest machine over at Seti Beta, but it is moving...

Once again this the the information that is needed to help correct the Credit Issue...

If people can track this information and send it to me then I can put it a format that makes it easier for Eric to work with... Tracking it weekly in Seti is a bit tougher... The more different Angle Ranges and CPU types the better... I am sure that Eric will let us know when he has enough...

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Version	Angel Range	Result ID	WU ID	Sent	Reported	State	Outcome	State	CPU time	CC	GC	C/H	G/H

5.15	0.4326	334123992	80132778	30 May 2006 18:34:57 UTC	1 Jun 2006 15:31:27 UTC	Over	Success	Done	140,029.41	61.34	61.33	1.576983007	1.5767
5.15	0.3563	331966908	79621961	25 May 2006 21:38:03 UTC	28 May 2006 11:42:08 UTC	Over	Success	Done	164,588.93	72.65	72.65	1.589049762	1.5890
5.15	0.5880	329015949	78941248	19 May 2006 15:18:09 UTC	21 May 2006 15:53:09 UTC	Over	Success	Done	112,733.57	50.1	50.1	1.599878368	1.5999

5.15	-9.0000	330924059	79382133	23 May 2006 22:30:26 UTC	24 May 2006 14:23:12 UTC	Over	Success	Done	26,349.46	8.82	pending	1.205034183	#VALUE!
5.15	0.4385	330166663	79203564	22 May 2006 5:50:10 UTC	24 May 2006 14:23:12 UTC	Over	Success	Done	140,946.09	61.28	61.28	1.565194182	1.5652
5.15	0.6501	329638129	79081529	20 May 2006 23:49:54 UTC	22 May 2006 14:14:35 UTC	Over	Success	Done	108,455.72	45.79	45.79	1.519919835	1.5199
5.15	0.5880	329015949	78941248	19 May 2006 15:18:09 UTC	21 May 2006 15:53:09 UTC	Over	Success	Done	112,733.57	50.10	50.1	1.599878368	1.5999
5.12	0.7664	328587247	78856507	18 May 2006 19:26:30 UTC	19 May 2006 23:12:45 UTC	Over	Success	Done	96,310.61	32.07	32.07	1.198746431	1.1987
4.18		327695925	78666608	17 May 2006 2:37:43 UTC	17 May 2006 19:40:21 UTC	Over	Success	Done	60,421.97	29.10	29.1	1.733806428	1.7338
5.12	-9.0000	327636509	78652207	17 May 2006 11:50:52 UTC	18 May 2006 23:16:05 UTC	Over	Success	Done	85,001.82	25.22	25.22	1.068118306	1.0681
4.18		327029414	78506924	16 May 2006 5:36:03 UTC	17 May 2006 2:37:43 UTC	Over	Success	Done	50,558.68	24.35	24.35	1.733826912	1.7338
4.18		326483339	78375779	15 May 2006 14:58:47 UTC	17 May 2006 2:37:43 UTC	Over	Success	Done	58,052.29	27.96	22.02	1.733885089	1.3655
4.18		324411071	77880312	12 May 2006 18:42:53 UTC	13 May 2006 18:58:37 UTC	Over	Success	Done	59,160.97	28.80	23.9	1.752506762	1.4543
5.12	0.6308	319059830	76600753	6 May 2006 1:30:50 UTC	7 May 2006 21:35:46 UTC	Over	Success	Done	109,489.97	47.08	47.08	1.547977408	1.5480

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Version	Angel Range	Result ID	WU ID	Sent	Reported	State	Outcome	State	CPU time	CC	GC	C/H	G/H
													
5.11C	0.5762	765679	180259	27 Apr 2006 0:18:51 UTC	1 May 2006 16:22:47 UTC	Over	Success	Done	103,723.77	135.81	105.22	4.713635071	3.6519
5.11C	0.0590	758902	170611	24 Apr 2006 19:38:14 UTC	27 Apr 2006 15:04:43 UTC	Over	Success	Done	196,850.76	157.68	157.68	2.883646474	2.8836
5.11C	5.3802	756955	178288	24 Apr 2006 10:13:35 UTC	25 Apr 2006 2:42:23 UTC	Over	Success	Done	34,420.04	33.77	33.77	3.532012165	3.5320
5.11C	5.3401	755409	177902	24 Apr 2006 0:28:55 UTC	24 Apr 2006 19:38:14 UTC	Over	Success	Done	34,407.68	33.77	33.77	3.533280942	3.5333
5.11C	2.2640	753783	177495	23 Apr 2006 14:44:41 UTC	24 Apr 2006 10:13:35 UTC	Over	Success	Done	36,142.41	37.84	37.84	3.769090108	3.7691
5.11C	2.9467	751802	177050	23 Apr 2006 5:07:25 UTC	23 Apr 2006 23:06:44 UTC	Over	Success	Done	35,157.84	35.03	35.03	3.586909776	3.5869
5.11C	2.9483	750349	176687	22 Apr 2006 19:15:35 UTC	23 Apr 2006 14:44:41 UTC	Over	Success	Done	34,945.22	35.03	35.03	3.608733898	3.6087
5.11C	2.1172	748649	176262	22 Apr 2006 9:16:31 UTC	23 Apr 2006 1:45:34 UTC	Over	Success	Done	36,321.47	38.42	38.42	3.807995657	3.8080
5.11C	2.1172	747294	175963	21 Apr 2006 22:27:10 UTC	22 Apr 2006 17:06:21 UTC	Over	Success	Done	36,244.22	38.42	38.42	3.816111921	3.8161
5.11C	1.2239	746585	175785	21 Apr 2006 16:58:08 UTC	22 Apr 2006 9:16:31 UTC	Over	Success	Done	41,100.36	51.15	51.15	4.480252728	4.4803
5.11S	1.4710	742675	174051	20 Apr 2006 15:42:03 UTC	21 Apr 2006 4:56:27 UTC	Over	Success	Done	40,486.26	40.55	40.55	3.605667701	3.6057
5.11S	1.5319	742620	174859	20 Apr 2006 15:42:03 UTC	21 Apr 2006 16:50:11 UTC	Over	Success	Done	40,483.82	40.32	40.32	3.585432402	3.5854
5.11S	1.1504	739755	174159	19 Apr 2006 10:33:53 UTC	20 Apr 2006 15:42:03 UTC	Over	Success	Done	46,140.76	51.71	51.71	4.034523922	4.0345
5.11S	0.4225	736986	172991	18 Apr 2006 2:00:40 UTC	19 Apr 2006 22:15:35 UTC	Over	Success	Done	144,176.25	173.74	173.74	4.338190236	4.3382



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Message 334458 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 3:20:26 UTC
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Over the last six month I have come to wonder why my statistics chart in Boinc is not reflecting the high proportion of time I assign to SETI. I come seeking enlightenment and here you are already on the case. Wonderful!

Mac G5 using only stock clients.

SECONDS   --   CREDIT   --   CPU Seconds per Credit

Einstein
10,073   --    27.11   --    372
11,191   --    29.99   --    373

Rosetta
10,625   --    27.26   --    390
11,693   --    30.22   --    387
 9,418   --    24.34   --    387
10,483   --    27.09   --    387

SZTAKI
 1,050   --     2.69   --    390
   881   --     2.25   --    392
 1,513   --     3.91   --    387
   568   --     1.47   --    386

SETI
29,378   --    62.01   --    474
22,582   --    48.57   --    465
21,834   --    47.03   --    464
22,843   --    52.57   --    434

So the top three above are averaging 385 seconds work per credit whereas SETI is taking an average of 459 seconds on my Mac. It will be interesting to see if the above calculations are reflected on Windows and Linux.

Not that any of the above matters a jot to the science. But we humans are funny little creatures. Even being cheated out of imaginary credit is enough to bend our fragile little egos out of shape.
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Message 334484 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 3:53:44 UTC

CPU Time CC GC GC/Per Hour

2,971.27 23.61 11.61 13.7
2,983.39 23.71 12.18 14.4
2,967.33 23.58 14.52 17.1
2,953.03 23.47 13.25 15.6
2,987.22 23.71 14.80 17.3
2,977.27 23.63 13.34 15.6
3,081.20 24.45 14.81 16.9
2,969.58 23.57 11.95 14.0
2,975.91 23.62 11.15 13.1

AMD Barton 2500+ running stock w/512 megs DDR2700 Running SIMAP

CPU Time CC GC GC/Per Hour

23,069.39 62.37 62.01 9.7
23,088.14 62.40 62.04 9.7
24,624.34 80.74 80.74 11.8
5,510.98 19.79 19.73 12.9
23,270.95 62.78 62.43 9.6
33,420.08 58.69 58.69 6.3

Same machine running Seti Enhanced with optimized 5.12 application

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Message 334611 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 9:49:23 UTC
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 ID - cr/sec - cr/min - cr/Hr  - sec/cr - AR
339998291 - 0.0014 - 0.0848 - 5.0858 - 707.84 - 0.425850


cr = credit
sec = seconde
min = minute
Hr = heures
Ar = Angel R

i am french :o)
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Ave credit/hour for a Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz Microsoft Windows XP. Only chruches for two projects.
Project         # Wus  Ave. Granted/Hr
Ralph             6    8.9
Seti Beta        10    10.9  all crunched with 5.15

Edit - Added AMD data
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ Windows XP
Project        # Wus  Ave. Granted/Hr
Predictor       10    12.6
Rosetta          1    12.0
Seti Beta       10    11.9  AR 0.4
Seti Beta        8    13.6  AR 7.
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Message 334820 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 15:28:16 UTC - in response to Message 334611.  

 ID - cr/sec - cr/min - cr/Hr  - sec/cr - AR - sec - credit
339998291 - 0.0014 - 0.0848 - 5.0858 - 707.84 - 0.425850 - 44211.91 - 62.46


cr = credit
sec = seconde
min = minute
Hr = heures
Ar = Angel R

i am french :o)


ID - cr/sec - cr/min - cr/Hr - sec/cr - AR - sec - credit
340252645 - 0.0014 - 0.0854 - 5.12 - 701.26 - 0.431836 - 43078.89 - 61.31

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Message 334936 - Posted: 12 Jun 2006, 18:16:27 UTC - in response to Message 334820.  

 ID - cr/sec - cr/min - cr/Hr  - sec/cr - AR - sec - credit
339998291 - 0.0014 - 0.0848 - 5.0858 - 707.84 - 0.425850 - 44211.91 - 62.46


cr = credit
sec = seconde
min = minute
Hr = heures
Ar = Angel R

i am french :o)


ID - cr/sec - cr/min - cr/Hr - sec/cr - AR - sec - credit
340252645 - 0.0014 - 0.0854 - 5.12 - 701.26 - 0.431836 - 43078.89 - 61.31

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Sorry, I don't know any French. But it's important to say that the distance the scope moves through the sky during a workunit is called the "Angle Range" and not "Angel Range". We're talking about degrees of arc here and not what somebody turns into if he/she goes to heaven (per many religions).

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