Ah yes. Various diseases and birth defects could cause some animals to look like something that people haven't seen, or turn a Fox into a Midget Werewolf.

My main problem with most of the pictures of " unknown " creatures is, Why on EARTH does it seem like everyone who takes these pictures buys the absolute slowest speed film and the crappiest camera possible?

Almost all of the pictures I have seen have been have been very grainy ( happens when pictures taken with cheap film are blown up ) or blurry or just terrible pictures in general.

Most cameras today are technologically capable of taking pretty good pictures no matter what kind of adverse conditions people run into ( lighting etc. ). The best feature is the ability for the camera to auto focus. Even with a very slow speed film, you can get a good picture with most of today's cameras. So why is it that all those pictures are crap?

On the one hand i agree, on the other i dont.

On the left hand yeah, you still get lots of those very blurry 'lock ness' type shots etc, but you can dismiss those for what they are.

On the other hand i think the evidence is getting better. The quality and length of footage is certainly improving. I was watching some footage that a guy in South America took, he had a conventional camera and an infrared unit, the interesting part was that he was picking up flying objects in the non-visible spectrum, this suggests a "cloaking devices" the overall quality of the footage was good (considering the distance the object was at).

My point is that the technology avaialble to the 'common man' is improving dramatically. Hence if we dont see improvements in the evidence, the results will likey be self-evident IMO.

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What's this thread about? Hmmm.....lemme see. UFOs, Bigfoot, Elvis, JFK, Marilyn Monroe....seems like pretty much everything is acceptable as a topic for discussion lol.

Hope that helped you out a bit Misfit.

How about Misfit sitings? There seem to be lot's of clones running around. I got three of them on an old b/w grainy betamax tape.

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The truly truly SCARY thing is.....I've been obducted by octagonally shaped ufos...and taken aboard black helicopters with your logo on the side door.......that is what wakes me up screaming in cold sweats in the middle of the night....

Robert, you really MUST remember to take your medication or people are going to get together and have you comitted. lmao

Knightmate....I have two points of contention with you here....(would you like a 5 minute argument or a 10 minute argument?)...

1.....I wouldn't need to remember to take my medication unless you were here to remind me....apparently you haven't been doing enough of this.

2. ...What makes you think I am not ALREADY committed? ...They have internet in asylums now , you know. :-)

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What's this thread about? Hmmm.....lemme see. UFOs, Bigfoot, Elvis, JFK, Marilyn Monroe....seems like pretty much everything is acceptable as a topic for discussion lol.

Hope that helped you out a bit Misfit.

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The truly truly SCARY thing is.....I've been obducted by octagonally shaped ufos...and taken aboard black helicopters with your logo on the side door.......that is what wakes me up screaming in cold sweats in the middle of the night....

Robert, you really MUST remember to take your medication or people are going to get together and have you comitted. lmao

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The truly truly SCARY thing is.....I've been obducted by octagonally shaped ufos...and taken aboard black helicopters with your logo on the side door.......that is what wakes me up screaming in cold sweats in the middle of the night....

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I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

Ah yes. Various diseases and birth defects could cause some animals to look like something that people haven't seen, or turn a Fox into a Midget Werewolf.

My main problem with most of the pictures of " unknown " creatures is, Why on EARTH does it seem like everyone who takes these pictures buys the absolute slowest speed film and the crappiest camera possible?

Almost all of the pictures I have seen have been have been very grainy ( happens when pictures taken with cheap film are blown up ) or blurry or just terrible pictures in general.

Most cameras today are technologically capable of taking pretty good pictures no matter what kind of adverse conditions people run into ( lighting etc. ). The best feature is the ability for the camera to auto focus. Even with a very slow speed film, you can get a good picture with most of today's cameras. So why is it that all those pictures are crap?

Don't you realize that this is part of the New World Order conspiracy? If photographic evidence was unimpeachible, what would happen if someone snapped a picture of a Black Helicopter or a USAF flying saucer???

[edit]Please no one take this seriously...[/edit]

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Ah yes. Various diseases and birth defects could cause some animals to look like something that people haven't seen, or turn a Fox into a Midget Werewolf.

My main problem with most of the pictures of " unknown " creatures is, Why on EARTH does it seem like everyone who takes these pictures buys the absolute slowest speed film and the crappiest camera possible?

Almost all of the pictures I have seen have been have been very grainy ( happens when pictures taken with cheap film are blown up ) or blurry or just terrible pictures in general.

Most cameras today are technologically capable of taking pretty good pictures no matter what kind of adverse conditions people run into ( lighting etc. ). The best feature is the ability for the camera to auto focus. Even with a very slow speed film, you can get a good picture with most of today's cameras. So why is it that all those pictures are crap?

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What parasites?.....I mean, I have fleas and scratch myself continuously but I do NOT look like that.......lol

ps....I also have worms. Please don't tell the ladies though...

In one of these cases it was determined it was a fox with sarcoptic mange.

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Found the example that I was thinking of...

This image is of a odd creature that was finally caught and identified. Many thought it was a hyena or something but it was a parasite infected fox.


Trap Set, New Pictures Taken Of Md. Mystery Animal
'Mystery Animal' Spotted Eating Cats In Colorado
Hairless Fox Suspected Of Killing Pets
Baby Md. Mystery Animal Caught, Identified

According to the veterinarians at Falls Road Animal Hospital in Baltimore, the animal was a male red fox. However, Dr. Michael Herko -- a vet at the animal hospital -- and the man who caught the fox say it is not the mysterious creature videotaped in July, but a relative.

What parasites?.....I mean, I have fleas and scratch myself continuously but I do NOT look like that.......lol

ps....I also have worms. Please don't tell the ladies though...

Found the example that I was thinking of...

This image is of a odd creature that was finally caught and identified. Many thought it was a hyena or something but it was a parasite infected fox.


Trap Set, New Pictures Taken Of Md. Mystery Animal
'Mystery Animal' Spotted Eating Cats In Colorado
Hairless Fox Suspected Of Killing Pets
Baby Md. Mystery Animal Caught, Identified

According to the veterinarians at Falls Road Animal Hospital in Baltimore, the animal was a male red fox. However, Dr. Michael Herko -- a vet at the animal hospital -- and the man who caught the fox say it is not the mysterious creature videotaped in July, but a relative.

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[url=http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/nebcryptpix061606.jpg]bizarre animal[/url

Now this has me fairly convinced it is a genuine photo...but what the hell is it? Notice the strange hips on this creature.....I don't think I have to be an anatomist to see that this is unusual....can someone zoom in and post a close up of its face?

The initial thought is a wild cat with a parasite problem. The image is from Nebraska. Because of the tail, I would have to say it's a cat or fox. Nebraska has bobcats which are smaller. It appears to have a black snout, so a cat is unlikely.

Because of the structure of the foot, I would say it's a fox because of the coloring. The part which appears to be the head my just appear to be since the flowers are obscuring the view. This can be seen where the pink intersects with the neck. The pink is the flowers and it causes the image to be discontinous and distorts the the visual effect of where the head should be which would go a long ways for an ID.

By the ribs, would say canine, probably fox with parasites. i.e. fleas/mite which causes excessive grooming which leads to loss of fur on body and tail. There have been reports of "hyenas" which turned out to be parasite ridden foxes. If you've ever seen a fox, you'd know that some of them have some long tails too. Possibly an intestinal infection causing hunching to get the hyena effect.

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Go here for more:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/nebcryptpix/

There's plenty of other strange things there to confuse you.

Oh...and we were relying on you to take over that job entirely...thanks for chiming in though, Ms. Bitter...

Go here for more:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/nebcryptpix/

There's plenty of other strange things there to confuse you.

[url=http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/nebcryptpix061606.jpg]bizarre animal[/url

Now this has me fairly convinced it is a genuine photo...but what the hell is it? Notice the strange hips on this creature.....I don't think I have to be an anatomist to see that this is unusual....can someone zoom in and post a close up of its face?

Here it is...

Thanks for posting that up....

to me it looks a bit like a babboon crossed with a hyena.....but its got me confused...

[url=http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/nebcryptpix061606.jpg]bizarre animal[/url

Now this has me fairly convinced it is a genuine photo...but what the hell is it? Notice the strange hips on this creature.....I don't think I have to be an anatomist to see that this is unusual....can someone zoom in and post a close up of its face?

Here it is...

[url=http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/nebcryptpix061606.jpg]bizarre animal[/url

Now this has me fairly convinced it is a genuine photo...but what the hell is it? Notice the strange hips on this creature.....I don't think I have to be an anatomist to see that this is unusual....can someone zoom in and post a close up of its face?

hey folks ... I wasnt saying any of you are are lying, or just a lot of BS... what i meant was i read some very good stuff here and in other threads there is some good laughs and good horsing around at times... no disrespect meant at all..

it seems to be a cultural thing here over the last few years that when saying you totally agree with something you actually say .. your not wrong...

or when you completly disagree you say .. yaeh right..

and sleestak, the evidence FOR there being visitors does outweigh the evidence against. yes history has some cave paintings and there are artifacts{carvings} that are not of any known device on this planet. We now have video and polygraphs and voice stress analysers that are pretty dam accurate so I also am interested in developments in this field. There also is "suggestive evidence" after the 1968 incident.

I apologise in advance for the length of this… but it is interesting…

Sleestak ..in reply

If the information that I've been digging up or the info from enzed is true

yes sleestak... what if ?...

judging by the conversations I have observed here over the last five or six years, you folk.... as in the collective "you" do tend to think more/deeper about lots of things... you verbally express yourselves well and demonstrate the ability to dig up info, raw data, facts, myths, legends, and I must say even the occasional bit of bulllshit realy well.

Thank you, but I don't know what BS that you're referring too. This is the most BS that I've done since I realize that I only want to believe these things. If you are refering to any of my scientific meanderings that don't necessarily concur with those who currently reside in the ivory towers, please keep in mind that throughout history, popular belief was wrong and the 1 or 2 persons that were correct were almost always percecuted or ostracized. The world used to be flat and the sun revolved around the earth and the universe revolved around the earth. This of course caused the other planets to follow very peculiar but repeated paths. That is until they figured out orbits. Atoms were a dumb idea because the elements were earth, wind, fire and water or something like that. Things change, we eventually realize how absurb some of this is. Some just figure it out sooner.

Since I beleive the universe is effectively infinitely old, there would be no reason for what we consider aliens to be everywhere in space. In this case, I am the only credible witness to any alien existence. Although, I like hearing testimonies/interviews. One can at least assess their honesty and video helps with that alot. Then you have to assess their knowledge about lying which is what I brought up with. I do want to believe though, it makes life more interesting.

2.1
They do exist and they don’t want us to know-
If this is true then in my opinion they have done an exceedingly poor job of hiding
What is their motives for wanting to hide in the first place {good or bad}

There are reports of the russians having dogfights with UFOs and thus we are still hostile. We are at war with ourselves. Why would we not try to beat them up too.

2.4
They do exist and they have already contacted us-
Which raises the question of who they are talking to/with
And also why have they continued to talk only with these people/group

There are cave paitings that predate christ which depict humanoid like creatures with bulbous heads with antenna. This could be a space suit with a helmet as we know them. There are also cave paintings dating to the same periods which show flying craft some of which have flames shooting from the bottom.

2.4.1
They do exist and they have already contacted us and they are negotiating

This seems harmless enough but there are two sides to the argument.

1 There is an equal and unilateral power balance between them and us
2 There is an unequal power balance between them and us

option 1 would be nice, because we don’t need to worry about superior technology or attitudes. So if they exist and they are communicating then the government would tell us so… wouldn’t they?… if not why not ??

option 2 would not be my personal choice because we are at a distinct disadvantage with technology, and a whole heap more things. So if they exist and are communicating and the government has not told us so then the only inference we can draw from this is that we are the ones in the underdog position and the government is running scared and wont say so.

2 would have to be true if we assumed that the previous information is true. They travel space freely and manipulate our atmosphere much better than we do.

plausible deniability must be maintained

very true.

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