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Message 292590 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 18:43:24 UTC

Ok, so I've been using dialup forever.

This sucks. And downloading WU's every night isn't helping.

I heard, that in Windows XP, you can go Control Panel>Modem>Properties>Advanced and add "&f" to the extra settings dialog to speed up your dial up.

I did this.

Origionally Windows said I was connected at 49.2k. After makign this change, it now says 115.2k.

Am I really connected this fast? Or does the modification I made just make the computer think you're connected this fast?
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Message 292591 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 18:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 292590.  

I've also heard that using "s11=50" will speed up the connection. I tried that, but my speed appeared to be the same.

Has anyone heard of this command?

Anyone? Do either of these actually work and do anything?
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Message 292599 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 19:09:29 UTC

I was with dialup for years, and then I went out and installed DSL. DSL didn't work well, so I went out and bought a cable modem. Haven't gone back since :)

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Message 292608 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 19:25:08 UTC
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Google for "bandwidth test" or something like that. You can test both.

This is the place I use.
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/



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Message 292609 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 19:29:29 UTC

Also if cable is available at your location, you might consider going with cable + voip. It make the price more reasonable. In my case, local phone was about $45 plus $20 long distance plus $30 for DSL. That's $95. Now I have $25 VoIP plus $60 cable and free long distance. I actually pay $10 less and have much more speed.

Just a thought... ;-)


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Message 292625 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 19:48:15 UTC

Thanks for the site.

Using "&f" communication is 0.2k faster then default.
Using "s11=50" communication is 0.7k faster then dfault.

So, no big gain. Thanks.
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Message 292667 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 20:49:17 UTC - in response to Message 292625.  

Thanks for the site.

Using "&f" communication is 0.2k faster then default.
Using "s11=50" communication is 0.7k faster then dfault.

So, no big gain. Thanks.


What kind of speeds out of a modem did you expect to achieve?

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Message 292670 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 20:53:07 UTC - in response to Message 292667.  

Thanks for the site.

Using "&f" communication is 0.2k faster then default.
Using "s11=50" communication is 0.7k faster then dfault.

So, no big gain. Thanks.


What kind of speeds out of a modem did you expect to achieve?


I've read somewhere (pcworld)that if you get, I think its a 90k data modem that supports dual hookup, you can connect two modems and have 128kbs/sec or more for connection speed...


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Message 292695 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 21:30:00 UTC - in response to Message 292670.  
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Thanks for the site.

Using "&f" communication is 0.2k faster then default.
Using "s11=50" communication is 0.7k faster then dfault.

So, no big gain. Thanks.


What kind of speeds out of a modem did you expect to achieve?


I've read somewhere (pcworld)that if you get, I think its a 90k data modem that supports dual hookup, you can connect two modems and have 128kbs/sec or more for connection speed...




Although I think I am fairly comfortable with computers in general..I do not think connecting two modems at once is possible, unless they are on seperate phone lines.
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Message 292706 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 21:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 292695.  

Thanks for the site.

Using "&f" communication is 0.2k faster then default.
Using "s11=50" communication is 0.7k faster then dfault.

So, no big gain. Thanks.


What kind of speeds out of a modem did you expect to achieve?


I've read somewhere (pcworld)that if you get, I think its a 90k data modem that supports dual hookup, you can connect two modems and have 128kbs/sec or more for connection speed...




Although I think I am fairly comfortable with computers in general..I do not think connecting two modems at once is possible, unless they are on seperate phone lines.


Oh right...I thought there was something else...

Yeah, 2 modems AND 2 phone lines can be banded together to get higher speeds...



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Message 292728 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 22:03:08 UTC - in response to Message 292706.  

Yeah, 2 modems AND 2 phone lines can be banded together to get higher speeds...


The "slang-term" for that was, iirc, "shotgun" modems.

(Not sure if it took the exact same modems anymore though...)

* If you go to search it online, perhaps that will help you "zero-in" on specifics though, as far as what it takes, just by knowing that term for it!

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Message 292739 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 22:11:19 UTC - in response to Message 292706.  

Thanks for the site.

Using "&f" communication is 0.2k faster then default.
Using "s11=50" communication is 0.7k faster then dfault.

So, no big gain. Thanks.


What kind of speeds out of a modem did you expect to achieve?


I've read somewhere (pcworld)that if you get, I think its a 90k data modem that supports dual hookup, you can connect two modems and have 128kbs/sec or more for connection speed...




Although I think I am fairly comfortable with computers in general..I do not think connecting two modems at once is possible, unless they are on seperate phone lines.


Oh right...I thought there was something else...

Yeah, 2 modems AND 2 phone lines can be banded together to get higher speeds...





You can buy a shotgun modem as Alec pointed out, which is esentially one modem with two phone jacks.

Cut - n - Paste from ModemHelp.Net

"
"Shotgun" technology is another way of linking two modem connections to create more bandwidth, but works like multi-linking should. With shotgun modems, which have two phone jacks on a single modem card, you still need two separate phone lines (obviously), but the connections established are linked both on the client side and on the server side. This effectively doubles the bandwidth for a single TCP/IP session. So if you're downloading a large file, that file can be transmitted over both PPP connections simultaneously, allowing for true "multi-linking".

Shotgun technology is a proprietary technology by Diamond Multimedia and requires special equipment in your ISP's POPs and special software on the customer's computer (not to mention a Diamond Multimedia Shotgun modem). It used supported in some Netcom POPs, and customers could sign up for a dual-analog payment plan, but this has been phased out. Diamond has also phased out and minmially supports Shotgun technology now, as there are more viable highspeed connection solutions available now. If you want to use Shotgun, before you buy, make sure you ask your ISP if they support it. Very few ISP's have support for it now. "
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Message 292795 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 22:52:36 UTC

Nice post Mike, no sarcasm intended.

:)

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Message 292805 - Posted: 1 May 2006, 23:04:51 UTC

Stefan might I reccomend that you just spend 10 bucks on a nic card and go cable...
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Message 292854 - Posted: 2 May 2006, 0:24:41 UTC - in response to Message 292805.  

Stefan might I reccomend that you just spend 10 bucks on a nic card and go cable...


huh..what?

I've got cable :)


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Message 292867 - Posted: 2 May 2006, 1:08:10 UTC - in response to Message 292854.  

Stefan might I reccomend that you just spend 10 bucks on a nic card and go cable...


huh..what?

I've got cable :)




Silly me...That was for neo :/

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Message 293006 - Posted: 2 May 2006, 5:42:23 UTC

We get our dialup through my dads work for $50 a year, so it's quite cheap.

And I don't do too much online anywho, its just that when I'm on, I'd like to get everything done quicker.

I've never heard of the shotgun thing before, but will probably be something I'll look into as we do have two phone lines.

And as for what speed I was "hoping" to acheive... I wasn't looking for anything outragiously faster, because I know that with this hardware it just can't be done.

But, keeping things relative, I boosted my speed by 2%.

Woo-Hoo!

/sarcasm

Thanks for all the help though, and that shotgun modem is something I will look into.
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Message 293028 - Posted: 2 May 2006, 6:45:29 UTC - in response to Message 293006.  
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We get our dialup through my dads work for $50 a year, so it's quite cheap.

And I don't do too much online anywho, its just that when I'm on, I'd like to get everything done quicker.

I've never heard of the shotgun thing before, but will probably be something I'll look into as we do have two phone lines.

And as for what speed I was "hoping" to acheive... I wasn't looking for anything outragiously faster, because I know that with this hardware it just can't be done.

But, keeping things relative, I boosted my speed by 2%.

Woo-Hoo!

/sarcasm

Thanks for all the help though, and that shotgun modem is something I will look into.



You don't need the shotgun technology. It's possible to use 2 normal hardware modems simultaneously in win2k (not sure about software winmodems). I think it was referred to as "modem wrapping". I got it to work but it's been a while (six years) since I had two phone lines to work with so I can't remember exactly how I did it. I'm not sure but I'd assume that XP pro would have a similar capability. Your isp has to allow two users to be logged on at the same time though (or allow a user two simultaneous connections).

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Message 293555 - Posted: 2 May 2006, 22:04:42 UTC - in response to Message 292695.  

Thanks for the site.

Using "&f" communication is 0.2k faster then default.
Using "s11=50" communication is 0.7k faster then dfault.

So, no big gain. Thanks.


What kind of speeds out of a modem did you expect to achieve?


I've read somewhere (pcworld)that if you get, I think its a 90k data modem that supports dual hookup, you can connect two modems and have 128kbs/sec or more for connection speed...




Although I think I am fairly comfortable with computers in general..I do not think connecting two modems at once is possible, unless they are on seperate phone lines.


And if your ISP allows it... IMO most don't.
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Message 293559 - Posted: 2 May 2006, 22:14:18 UTC - in response to Message 292590.  

Ok, so I've been using dialup forever.

This sucks. And downloading WU's every night isn't helping.

I heard, that in Windows XP, you can go Control Panel>Modem>Properties>Advanced and add "&f" to the extra settings dialog to speed up your dial up.

I did this.

Origionally Windows said I was connected at 49.2k. After makign this change, it now says 115.2k.

Am I really connected this fast? Or does the modification I made just make the computer think you're connected this fast?


The command &f is 'Reset Modem to Factory Settings'
I'm not sure of the order the dialer sends commands to the modem, but it seems likely that the additional commands are sent after any others, effectively cancelling the commands sent before.

One side effect you are seeing is the modem reporting the interface speed rather than the connection speed.
The Interface speed will always be constant - whatever is set in windows.
The connection speed is better to report, it may not feel as good, but if you're seeing the i/f speed all the time, you won't notice the really crap connection at 9.6K that you'll get occasionally.

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