Fun With Global Warming!

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ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 10507 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 45	Message 501514 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 13:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 501462. Last modified: 12 Jan 2007, 13:35:24 UTC The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. ... Considering the obtuse FUD squirmings and denial of reality, I thought that was a very polite and diplomatic get-out. All in my utter most humblest opinion ofcourse. At the moment, our world political leaders seem to be playing a most unseemly game of chicken-on-the-tracks while stoking up the steam engine boiler yet further just to see how clever science can be to desperately apply the brakes without ripping up the tracks. (That scene would make a very good political cartoon lampooning the current world stupidity.) What is really disgusting is the blatant cynical behaviour of GW Bush and other fossil(s) fuels barons (warlords) whom appear to be intent of burning this planet for grabbing their very last dime. Meanwhile, the betrayed consumers and our world be damned. Science has indeed produced some miracle cures. However, none are guaranteed and there are usually some costs... Those costs usually increase the later you leave your ultimate panic. Contact your political representative now and ask them what they are doing to stop Global Warming. It'll be interesting to also hear what they comment. My own MP (UK) is certainly aware and working towards reducing Global Warming. My only complaint is that of how quickly/effectively and the level of enertia that must be overcome. It's up to you! Regards, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 501514 ·

Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10872 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0	Message 501496 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 12:06:52 UTC - in response to Message 501495. Last modified: 12 Jan 2007, 12:07:01 UTC I am qualified to teach special ed, physics and calculus if that helps. :-) That must be a heck of a class to behold. You have no idea :( Reality Internet Personality ID: 501496 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501495 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 12:04:15 UTC - in response to Message 501483. No, it's just that I am incapable of transfering knowledge to someone with a room temperature IQ, or a very yound child who can't grasp some very basic data or concepts. Dogbytes you are violating the posted rule, "No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting." For anyone posting this behavior is clearly unacceptable. As a forum Moderator this behavior is shameful. Please refrain from such behavior in the future. The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. Your behavior, especially as you are a Moderator, is disgusting. On the other hand taken as a simple statement I doubt that he is qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. My sister an elementary school teacher who works with learning disabled kids is though. Hey I'm not qualified to teach astro physics or calculus myself. I am qualified to teach special ed, physics and calculus if that helps. :-) That must be a heck of a class to behold. ID: 501495 ·

Knightmare Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Aug 04 Posts: 7472 Credit: 94,252 RAC: 0	Message 501487 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 11:00:56 UTC - in response to Message 501483. No, it's just that I am incapable of transfering knowledge to someone with a room temperature IQ, or a very yound child who can't grasp some very basic data or concepts. Dogbytes you are violating the posted rule, "No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting." For anyone posting this behavior is clearly unacceptable. As a forum Moderator this behavior is shameful. Please refrain from such behavior in the future. The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. Your behavior, especially as you are a Moderator, is disgusting. On the other hand taken as a simple statement I doubt that he is qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. My sister an elementary school teacher who works with learning disabled kids is though. Hey I'm not qualified to teach astro physics or calculus myself. I am qualified to teach special ed, physics and calculus if that helps. :-) Hmmmm....a " Jill of all trades " ??? lol Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome ID: 501487 ·

Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10872 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0	Message 501483 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 10:32:25 UTC - in response to Message 501463. Last modified: 12 Jan 2007, 13:53:32 UTC Dogbytes you are violating the posted rule, "No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting." For anyone posting this behavior is clearly unacceptable. As a forum Moderator this behavior is shameful. Please refrain from such behavior in the future. The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. Your behavior, especially as you are a Moderator, is disgusting. On the other hand taken as a simple statement I doubt that he is qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. My sister an elementary school teacher who works with learning disabled kids is though. Hey I'm not qualified to teach astro physics or calculus myself. I am qualified to teach special ed, physics and calculus if that helps. :-) Reality Internet Personality ID: 501483 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501466 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 9:05:30 UTC - in response to Message 501464. No, it's just that I am incapable of transfering knowledge to someone with a room temperature IQ, or a very yound child who can't grasp some very basic data or concepts. Dogbytes you are violating the posted rule, "No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting." For anyone posting this behavior is clearly unacceptable. As a forum Moderator this behavior is shameful. Please refrain from such behavior in the future. The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. Your behavior, especially as you are a Moderator, is disgusting. On the other hand taken as a simple statement I doubt that he is qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. My sister an elementary school teacher who works with learning disabled kids is though. Hey I'm not qualified to teach astro physics or calculus myself. Not the point. I did stay in a holiday inn express last night though. ID: 501466 ·

BillHyland Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 04 Posts: 907 Credit: 5,764,172 RAC: 0	Message 501464 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 9:04:01 UTC - in response to Message 501463. No, it's just that I am incapable of transfering knowledge to someone with a room temperature IQ, or a very yound child who can't grasp some very basic data or concepts. Dogbytes you are violating the posted rule, "No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting." For anyone posting this behavior is clearly unacceptable. As a forum Moderator this behavior is shameful. Please refrain from such behavior in the future. The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. Your behavior, especially as you are a Moderator, is disgusting. On the other hand taken as a simple statement I doubt that he is qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. My sister an elementary school teacher who works with learning disabled kids is though. Hey I'm not qualified to teach astro physics or calculus myself. Not the point. ID: 501464 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501463 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 8:58:56 UTC - in response to Message 501462. No, it's just that I am incapable of transfering knowledge to someone with a room temperature IQ, or a very yound child who can't grasp some very basic data or concepts. Dogbytes you are violating the posted rule, "No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting." For anyone posting this behavior is clearly unacceptable. As a forum Moderator this behavior is shameful. Please refrain from such behavior in the future. The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. Your behavior, especially as you are a Moderator, is disgusting. On the other hand taken as a simple statement I doubt that he is qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. My sister an elementary school teacher who works with learning disabled kids is though. Hey I'm not qualified to teach astro physics or calculus myself. ID: 501463 ·

BillHyland Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 04 Posts: 907 Credit: 5,764,172 RAC: 0	Message 501462 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 8:54:30 UTC - in response to Message 501251. No, it's just that I am incapable of transfering knowledge to someone with a room temperature IQ, or a very yound child who can't grasp some very basic data or concepts. Dogbytes you are violating the posted rule, "No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting." For anyone posting this behavior is clearly unacceptable. As a forum Moderator this behavior is shameful. Please refrain from such behavior in the future. The fact of the matter is that I am not qualified to teach special ed or elementary school. Do not be disingenuous. Your behavior, especially as you are a Moderator, is disgusting. ID: 501462 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501461 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 8:51:35 UTC - in response to Message 501457. Here in Milano it looks like spring. A friend with an Icelandic wife told me this morning there has been almost no snowfall in Iceland. No comment. Tullio Personally I'd be more worried about the snow fall in Greenland. ID: 501461 ·

BillHyland Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 04 Posts: 907 Credit: 5,764,172 RAC: 0	Message 501458 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 8:44:36 UTC - in response to Message 501457. Here in Milano it looks like spring. A friend with an Icelandic wife told me this morning there has been almost no snowfall in Iceland. No comment. Tullio And here in Albuquerque we got 24" of snow a few days ago. Go figure. ID: 501458 ·

tullio Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 7993 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1	Message 501457 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 8:40:21 UTC Here in Milano it looks like spring. A friend with an Icelandic wife told me this morning there has been almost no snowfall in Iceland. No comment. Tullio ID: 501457 ·

GalaxyIce Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0	Message 501448 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 7:58:08 UTC - in response to Message 501422. Fun With Global Warming! Can I play too? There goes the neighborhood. If I can get Eric Korpela to join in, I'm sure you can. Isn't it good how Climate Change has become so popular in the SETI@home Cafe? flam ing balloons ID: 501448 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501447 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 7:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 501422. Fun With Global Warming! Can I play too? There goes the neighborhood. No kidding I blame Misfit! ID: 501447 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21803 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 501422 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 6:10:35 UTC Fun With Global Warming! Can I play too? There goes the neighborhood. me@rescam.org ID: 501422 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501396 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 5:13:02 UTC - in response to Message 501388. I remember that being widely discussed with Mt Pinatubo erupted which for a time caused world wide cooling to occur that was in 1991. That created some very cold summers and winters here for some years, due to the less sun warmth. Hey breaking low temperatures here in the North Bay Area of California...supposed to get down to 21 degrees this evening. Now that's unseasonably cold here...not to mention that it's almost as cold as it is in the midwest right now. ID: 501396 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501394 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 5:07:53 UTC - in response to Message 501381. Ah, Dark Angel I thought: Additional observations through 2006 resulted in Apophis being lowered to Torino Scale 0 on August 6, 2006. Possible impact effects It must be stressed that the odds of impact are now known to be very low. Hence, the possible effects of an impact are largely irrelevant. However, the initial reports resulted in widespread discussion on many Internet forums, including armchair speculation about exactly where Apophis (then known only as 2004 MN4) would hit and what would happen when it did. NASA initially estimated the energy that Apophis would have released if it impacted Earth as the equivalent of 1480 megatons of TNT. A more refined later NASA estimate was 880 megatons. The impacts which created the Barringer Crater or caused the Tunguska event are estimated to be in the 10-20 megaton range. The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa was the equivalent of roughly 200 megatons. The exact effects of any impact would have varied based on the asteroid's composition, and the location and angle of impact. Any impact would have been extremely detrimental to an area of thousands of square kilometres, but would have been unlikely to have long-lasting global effects, such as the initiation of an impact winter. We shall see...not to say I don't trust the accuracy of their math but I would call an astroid that is a little less then 1/3 of a cubic Km passing within 20,000 Km which is within our Geosynchronous satellites a fairly close call....but I don't intend to take the thread off topic as this isn't about astro physics and near earth objects it's about global warming. ID: 501394 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 501388 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 4:54:44 UTC - in response to Message 501370. I rembmer that being widely discussed with Mt Pinatubo erupted which for a time caused world wide cooling to occur that was in 1991. That created some very cold summers and winters here for some years, due to the less sun warmth. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 501388 ·

MAC Send message Joined: 12 Feb 01 Posts: 203 Credit: 58,346 RAC: 0	Message 501381 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 4:37:18 UTC Ah, Dark Angel I thought: Additional observations through 2006 resulted in Apophis being lowered to Torino Scale 0 on August 6, 2006. Possible impact effects It must be stressed that the odds of impact are now known to be very low. Hence, the possible effects of an impact are largely irrelevant. However, the initial reports resulted in widespread discussion on many Internet forums, including armchair speculation about exactly where Apophis (then known only as 2004 MN4) would hit and what would happen when it did. NASA initially estimated the energy that Apophis would have released if it impacted Earth as the equivalent of 1480 megatons of TNT. A more refined later NASA estimate was 880 megatons. The impacts which created the Barringer Crater or caused the Tunguska event are estimated to be in the 10-20 megaton range. The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa was the equivalent of roughly 200 megatons. The exact effects of any impact would have varied based on the asteroid's composition, and the location and angle of impact. Any impact would have been extremely detrimental to an area of thousands of square kilometres, but would have been unlikely to have long-lasting global effects, such as the initiation of an impact winter. ID: 501381 ·

Dark Angel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0	Message 501378 - Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 4:22:45 UTC - in response to Message 501363. Well if the nuclear card is played then I guess we won't have to worry too much about global warming...for multiple reasons including the nuclear winter, fallout, and that really hot bang that comes first. Too political...I'd rather have a 20Km astroid hit us at 50,000Kph and be done with it proper, and let the cockroachs have at it. Well we may get that chance yet... Update, Dec. 25, 9:47 p.m. ET: The risk of an impact by asteroid 2004 MN4 went up slightly on Saturday, Dec. 25. It is now pegged at having a 1-in -45 chance of striking the planet on April 13, 2029. That's up from 1-in-63 late on Dec. 24, and 1-in-300 early on Dec. 24. Astronomers still stress that it is very likely the risk will be reduced to zero with further observations. And even as it stands with present knowledge, the chances are 97.8 percent the rock will miss Earth. Update, Dec. 24, 10:19 p.m. ET: An asteroid that has a small chance of hitting Earth in the year 2029 was upgraded to an unprecedented level of risk Friday, Dec. 24. Scientists still stress, however, that further observations will likely show the space rock won't be on a collision course with the planet. The risk rating for asteroid 2004 MN4 was raised Friday by NASA and a separate group of researchers in Italy. The asteroid's risk rating a possible impact scenario on April 13, 2029 has now been categorized as a 4 on the Torino Scale. The level 4 rating -- never before issued -- is reserved for "events meriting concern." The Dec. 24 update from NASA stated: "2004 MN4 is now being tracked very carefully by many astronomers around the world, and we continue to update our risk analysis for this object. Today's impact monitoring results indicate that the impact probability for April 13, 2029 has risen to about 1.6 percent, which for an object of this size corresponds to a rating of 4 on the ten-point Torino Scale. Nevertheless, the odds against impact are still high, about 60-to-1, meaning that there is a better than 98 percent chance that new data in the coming days, weeks, and months will rule out any possibility of impact in 2029." With a half-dozen or so other asteroid discoveries dating back to 1997, scientists had announced long odds of an impact -- generating frightening headlines in some cases -- only to announce within hours or days that the impact chances had been reduced to zero by further observations. Experts have said repeatedly that they are concerned about alarming the public before enough data is gathered to project an asteroid's path accurately. Asteroid 2004 MN4 is an unusual case in that follow-up observations have caused the risk assessment to climb -- from Torino level 2 to 4 -- rather than fall. ID: 501378 ·

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