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Message 565089 - Posted: 11 May 2007, 13:27:07 UTC

Yes Seti is still down and will be until at least Monday with a few more days of recovery. See tech news forum for updates.
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Message 565065 - Posted: 11 May 2007, 12:40:21 UTC - in response to Message 256082.  

When you have difficulties connecting, check the Home Page, the Server Status, and the Technical News. Today, you'll see that yesterday there was a campus-wide power outage, and then the lab went on to do some maintenance on the servers. Today was the normal Wednesday outage for database backup. Any time this happens, nobody gets through while they're working, and then there's such a traffic jam of backlogged work and requests that it takes a few hours for everybody to get through. If you're still seeing this problem tomorrow, then go to the Messages tab, copy the last 20 or so entries from there and paste them into a reply here. Don't bang on the Update button or reset, we need to see what BOINC is doing or trying to do by itself.

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Fri May 11 07:28:51 2007|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work
Fri May 11 07:28:51 2007|SETI@home|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
Fri May 11 07:30:51 2007||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Fri May 11 07:30:52 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
Fri May 11 07:30:56 2007|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: a timeout was reached
Fri May 11 07:30:56 2007|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 38 minutes and 41 seconds
Fri May 11 08:09:41 2007|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
Fri May 11 08:09:41 2007|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work
Fri May 11 08:09:41 2007|SETI@home|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
Fri May 11 08:11:41 2007||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Fri May 11 08:11:42 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
Fri May 11 08:11:46 2007|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: a timeout was reached
Fri May 11 08:11:46 2007|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 18 minutes and 50 seconds
Fri May 11 08:30:41 2007|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
Fri May 11 08:30:41 2007|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work
Fri May 11 08:30:41 2007|SETI@home|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
Fri May 11 08:32:41 2007||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Fri May 11 08:32:41 2007|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: a timeout was reached
Fri May 11 08:32:41 2007|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 1 hours, 38 minutes and 47 seconds
Fri May 11 08:32:43 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

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Message 257041 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 22:57:53 UTC

I grew up in The Netherlands and in Minneapolis, Minnesota which has given me an accent strangely mixed with Dutch & German glottals (back of the throat sounds, like you're hawking "a big one" from way back in your throat), Scandinavian & Canadian elongated "o"s and "aa"s & "ay"s and a smooth, practiced Midwestern announcer voice. I can switch from one to the other at will but in familiar company I usually end up mixing them up. After a few beers this:

"You know, it's surprising that, growing up in Zundert and The Hague, Van Gogh never painted any boats."

might sound like this:
"Ey ya noh, etz srprizeen thet, growen up en Soon'durdt an Den Ha'gkhu' (glottal at the end), Fvaan Gkhogkh (glottals at the beginning and end - don't pronounce the k. His name isn't pronounced "van go") nevur paantid anee boohts."

Laugh all you want. I paid much of my way through college doing voice over work.

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Message 256997 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 21:47:24 UTC - in response to Message 256916.  


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Okay, I'll stop. This posting was longer than I intended. This is what happens when WUs stop flowing, I guess. We all get OT, and it doesn't take much for me to get OT on anything! LOL

Torrey Lauer


LOL, I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it!

Besides, some of the most interesting stuff turns up when the projects go down.

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Message 256986 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 21:28:29 UTC

Hi,just looking at the messages while waiting for Seti to do something. The soft or hard "T",well I live in East Anglia UK and we have a lot of "TON's" around here,it comes from the time of the Saxon invasions and relates to the small village names, a great deal of villages end with ton and ham which is short for hamlet...
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Message 256982 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 21:20:57 UTC - in response to Message 256980.  


and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"


Some South of the border also get "oot and aboot", just spell it differantley.


I find that photograph a little hard to believe ...

:-))


Well, I grew up in a suburb of Milwaukee, Wisconsin which is about 1 1/2 hours north of Chicago. There are differences in Southeastern Wisconsin where I am with the nouns that are used. For example, we say soda, but in the rest of Wisconsin and Northern Illinois (which is where Chicago is), most of them say pop. There are still others that say soda-pop.

Another example is a water fountain. To be clear, a water fountian is something from which one drinks fresh water. In this area, people say bubbler. I think that word came about because the water kind of bubbles out of the water fountain. In any case, bubbler is a word that a lot of people from the rest of Wisconsin and Northern Illinois make fun of Milwaukeeans.

I'll never forget when I was in high school, I worked at a men's clothing store inside the second largest mall in the Milwaukee area. I transfered to another store location in a mall that was much smaller, had much differnet clientele, and if that wasn't enough to get used to, my manager was from Indiana (the State of Indiana in the U.S. which is the neighboring state of Illinois). The first night I worked in her store, she asked me to go get the sweeper from the back to sweep the floors. To me that sounded like go get the dust broom to clean the hardwood floors in the store. I couldn't find the darn thing. She kept saying it was right behind the door. I looked, and there was NOT a "sweeper" anywhere to be found. She ended coming into the back room after I said for the fourth or fifth time that I couldn't find it, and grabbing the vaccuum cleaner said, "It's right here! Uggggh. LOL

Even since I was a grade schooler, I've had people ask me where I was from. For some reason my accent did't match that of the other Southweastern Wisconsinites. I don't know why. Now, I get the same question from others, but this time it's because I enunciate some of my words that local residents don't. For example, many in this area say "of'en" or "offen" (however you would spell it) instead of ofTen. There is a T in that word, and it's not supposed to be silent. :) There is a street name on the Southside of Milwaukee called Layton Rd (or Blvd or St). Everyone in the area SOMEHOW pronounces it with a soft "t." I've tried and people laugh at me. So, I say it the way I can -- with a hard T. So, I say LayTon (clearly pronouncing the "t"). The other word that I've come to have problems saying the way others do in this area is button. A co-worker of mine about five years ago asked why I pronounce it "budden." I didn't think I did, but after saying a few more times, I guess I do. Somehow others are able to say button with soft t's. So, I say BUT-TEN, clearly pronouncing both T's. Sometimes I feel British enunciating some of my words! LOL

Oh well...

Okay, lastly, I'm just glad I know when to use "he" "she" and "her" and "him" in a sentence. It drives me crazy to hear people say She went to the store, and then in the next sentence say Me and HER went to the movies afterwards!!!! I've stopped correcting people because I felt like a broken record. I now just scream when I hear it. LOL (not really)

Okay, I'll stop. This posting was longer than I intended. This is what happens when WUs stop flowing, I guess. We all get OT, and it doesn't take much for me to get OT on anything! LOL

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Message 256980 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 21:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 256916.  


and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"


Some South of the border also get "oot and aboot", just spell it differantley.


I find that photograph a little hard to believe ...

:-))


Well, I grew up in a suburb of Milwaukee, Wisconsin which is about 1 1/2 hours north of Chicago. There are differences in Southeastern Wisconsin where I am with the nouns that are used. For example, we say soda, but in the rest of Wisconsin and Northern Illinois (which is where Chicago is), most of them say pop. There are still others that say soda-pop.

Another example is a water fountain. To be clear, a water fountian is something from which one drinks fresh water. In this area, people say bubbler. I think that word came about because the water kind of bubbles out of the water fountain. In any case, bubbler is a word that a lot of people from the rest of Wisconsin and Northern Illinois make fun of Milwaukeeans.

I'll never forget when I was in high school, I worked at a men's clothing store inside the second largest mall in the Milwaukee area. I transfered to another store location in a mall that was much smaller, had much differnet clientele, and if that wasn't enough to get used to, my manager was from Indiana (the State of Indiana in the U.S. which is the neighboring state of Illinois). The first night I worked in her store, she asked me to go get the sweeper from the back to sweep the floors. To me that sounded like go get the dust broom to clean the hardwood floors in the store. I couldn't find the darn thing. She kept saying it was right behind the door. I looked, and there was NOT a "sweeper" anywhere to be found. She ended coming into the back room after I said for the fourth or fifth time that I couldn't find it, and grabbing the vaccuum cleaner said, "It's right here! Uggggh. LOL

Even since I was a grade schooler, I've had people ask me where I was from. For some reason my accent did't match that of the other Southweastern Wisconsinites. I don't know why. Now, I get the same question from others, but this time it's because I enunciate some of my words that local residents don't. For example, many in this area say "of'en" or "offen" (however you would spell it) instead of ofTen. There is a T in that word, and it's not supposed to be silent. :) There is a street name on the Southside of Milwaukee called Layton Rd (or Blvd or St). Everyone in the area SOMEHOW pronounces it with a soft "t." I've tried and people laugh at me. So, I say it the way I can -- with a hard T. So, I say LayTon (clearly pronouncing the "t"). The other word that I've come to have problems saying the way others do in this area is button. A co-worker of mine about five years ago asked why I pronounce it "budden." I didn't think I did, but after saying a few more times, I guess I do. Somehow others are able to say button with soft t's. So, I say BUT-TEN, clearly pronouncing both T's. Sometimes I feel British enunciating some of my words! LOL

Oh well...

Okay, lastly, I'm just glad I know when to use "he" "she" and "her" and "him" in a sentence. It drives me crazy to hear people say She went to the store, and then in the next sentence say Me and HER went to the movies afterwards!!!! I've stopped correcting people because I felt like a broken record. I now just scream when I hear it. LOL (not really)

Okay, I'll stop. This posting was longer than I intended. This is what happens when WUs stop flowing, I guess. We all get OT, and it doesn't take much for me to get OT on anything! LOL

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Message 256916 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 20:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 256849.  


and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"


Some South of the border also get "oot and aboot", just spell it differantley.


I find that photograph a little hard to believe ...

:-))


Well, I grew up in a suburb of Milwaukee, Wisconsin which is about 1 1/2 hours north of Chicago. There are differences in Southeastern Wisconsin where I am with the nouns that are used. For example, we say soda, but in the rest of Wisconsin and Northern Illinois (which is where Chicago is), most of them say pop. There are still others that say soda-pop.

Another example is a water fountain. To be clear, a water fountian is something from which one drinks fresh water. In this area, people say bubbler. I think that word came about because the water kind of bubbles out of the water fountain. In any case, bubbler is a word that a lot of people from the rest of Wisconsin and Northern Illinois make fun of Milwaukeeans.

I'll never forget when I was in high school, I worked at a men's clothing store inside the second largest mall in the Milwaukee area. I transfered to another store location in a mall that was much smaller, had much differnet clientele, and if that wasn't enough to get used to, my manager was from Indiana (the State of Indiana in the U.S. which is the neighboring state of Illinois). The first night I worked in her store, she asked me to go get the sweeper from the back to sweep the floors. To me that sounded like go get the dust broom to clean the hardwood floors in the store. I couldn't find the darn thing. She kept saying it was right behind the door. I looked, and there was NOT a "sweeper" anywhere to be found. She ended coming into the back room after I said for the fourth or fifth time that I couldn't find it, and grabbing the vaccuum cleaner said, "It's right here! Uggggh. LOL

Even since I was a grade schooler, I've had people ask me where I was from. For some reason my accent did't match that of the other Southweastern Wisconsinites. I don't know why. Now, I get the same question from others, but this time it's because I enunciate some of my words that local residents don't. For example, many in this area say "of'en" or "offen" (however you would spell it) instead of ofTen. There is a T in that word, and it's not supposed to be silent. :) There is a street name on the Southside of Milwaukee called Layton Rd (or Blvd or St). Everyone in the area SOMEHOW pronounces it with a soft "t." I've tried and people laugh at me. So, I say it the way I can -- with a hard T. So, I say LayTon (clearly pronouncing the "t"). The other word that I've come to have problems saying the way others do in this area is button. A co-worker of mine about five years ago asked why I pronounce it "budden." I didn't think I did, but after saying a few more times, I guess I do. Somehow others are able to say button with soft t's. So, I say BUT-TEN, clearly pronouncing both T's. Sometimes I feel British enunciating some of my words! LOL

Oh well...

Okay, lastly, I'm just glad I know when to use "he" "she" and "her" and "him" in a sentence. It drives me crazy to hear people say She went to the store, and then in the next sentence say Me and HER went to the movies afterwards!!!! I've stopped correcting people because I felt like a broken record. I now just scream when I hear it. LOL (not really)

Okay, I'll stop. This posting was longer than I intended. This is what happens when WUs stop flowing, I guess. We all get OT, and it doesn't take much for me to get OT on anything! LOL

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Message 256849 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 18:09:20 UTC - in response to Message 256847.  


and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"


Some South of the border also get "oot and aboot", just spell it differantley.


I find that photograph a little hard to believe ...

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Message 256847 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 18:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 256715.  


and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"


Some South of the border also get "oot and aboot", just spell it differantley.
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Message 256779 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 16:24:58 UTC - in response to Message 256715.  

How in the blazes did my question about not getting any wu's for a couple days, end up being a lesson on the difference between the "Kings English" and "American English", Latin inflecttion and sentance structure, I've been out of college for almost 10 yrs now,I hated having to parse Greek, and English Grammer was not my best subject.

and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"


Because there's no work to get, and we need to do something in the meantime. :-)



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Message 256735 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 14:16:54 UTC - in response to Message 256715.  

How in the blazes did my question about not getting any wu's for a couple days, end up ... "oot and a boot"

Oh, just a bit of forums idling while the non-news of Berkeley's hardware and software shufflings continue?...

This is all a good test of the Boinc architecture :-)

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How in the blazes ... Latin inflecttion and sentance structure, I've been out of college for almost 10 yrs now,I hated having to parse Greek, and English Grammer was not my best subject.
Can't escape it if you're anywhere near science. There's a few thousand years of history and language in all those scientific namings...

and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"
That sounds rather Scottish... And they can't spell their place names either!

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Message 256722 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 13:35:24 UTC - in response to Message 256715.  

How in the blazes did my question about not getting any wu's for a couple days, end up being a lesson on the difference between the "Kings English" and "American English", Latin inflecttion and sentance structure, I've been out of college for almost 10 yrs now,I hated having to parse Greek, and English Grammer was not my best subject.

and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"


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Message 256715 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 13:13:32 UTC

How in the blazes did my question about not getting any wu's for a couple days, end up being a lesson on the difference between the "Kings English" and "American English", Latin inflecttion and sentance structure, I've been out of college for almost 10 yrs now,I hated having to parse Greek, and English Grammer was not my best subject.

and bodley you are correct, I have several friends in Canada, and from time to time they go "oot and a boot"
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Message 256680 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 10:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 256552.  

It's not much, but strangely I got issued one unit just now, one yesterday (2nd) and one the day before. Prior to that my last units came on the 28th, which is what I would imagine most are seeing.


More than likely those are resends, such as when a host returns an invalid result, that wu gets resent.

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Message 256655 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 7:53:43 UTC - in response to Message 256570.  

With the United States and Canada on the same continent, I'm surprised that the English language is so different. Canada does use more of the "England's English" for spelling and sentence structure, but they "sound" like most Americans.


Canadian English is certainly strongly influenced by American; our 'British' spellings (with very few exceptions, "aluminum", "curb" (n.), and "tire" (n.) are about all I can think of offhand) make the main distinction in writing, as our usage and grammar are closer to Americans' than Britons' in most ways. And yes, a typical or 'central' Canadian accent is very similar to that heard in most of the central and midwestern U.S.

For me, being from God's own country (Western Australia), the way to find a Canadian ... is to ask an American to say the word " out ".
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Message 256570 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 1:57:02 UTC - in response to Message 256557.  

With the United States and Canada on the same continent, I'm surprised that the English language is so different. Canada does use more of the "England's English" for spelling and sentence structure, but they "sound" like most Americans.


Canadian English is certainly strongly influenced by American; our 'British' spellings (with very few exceptions, "aluminum", "curb" (n.), and "tire" (n.) are about all I can think of offhand) make the main distinction in writing, as our usage and grammar are closer to Americans' than Britons' in most ways. And yes, a typical or 'central' Canadian accent is very similar to that heard in most of the central and midwestern U.S.

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Message 256557 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 1:10:58 UTC - in response to Message 256514.  

... Note that such words coming direct from Latin, or having Latinate inflections, never include the U, even in British English, e.g.: "colour", "coloured", & "colouring", but "coloration" & "colorist"; "honour", "honoured", "honouring", & "honourable", but "honorary" & "honorarium"; "vigour" but "vigorous" & "invigorate".

Thanks for the interesting lesson there.

Note where the "u" is or isn't included in your examples, the pronunciation also changes the emphasis on the "o" neighbouring the "u".

The Amerikan spelling of "color" is too near the spelling and pronunciation for collar as in that used to strangle dogs...

Regards,
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I know there are more dialects of English in England than there are in all of the United States. In the U.S., color does not at all sound like collar. Of course, since the U.S. is so large and not having been to all areas of the country, there may be some areas that pronounce collar like color is pronounced, but I do not know of any.

With the United States and Canada on the same continent, I'm surprised that the English language is so different. Canada does use more of the "England's English" for spelling and sentence structure, but they "sound" like most Americans.

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Message 256552 - Posted: 3 Mar 2006, 0:53:01 UTC

It's not much, but strangely I got issued one unit just now, one yesterday (2nd) and one the day before. Prior to that my last units came on the 28th, which is what I would imagine most are seeing.
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