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Message 245907 - Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 3:56:16 UTC - in response to Message 245493.  

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You have many answers from those that are trying to help. So Yes as a dialup user you do not want to overwhelm the connection in Beta by ten days... I had an incident where my faster machine doing a 2.5 day cache was a large pain as the Beta Workunits were cancelled... So there are many that recommend that if you click on connect every two days, then set your cache at 3 days... It gives you a buffer...

Doing Seti Enhanced Beta means you have to look a bit more often... As I do not have your email address I can not shoot you and email... If yu have other questions, please post. I can give you and email address to contact...

Thats Ok guys, I never said anything about doing them on 1 day.. I'm on dialup and it just suck abit to dial up every couple of days just to send and download..

I understand abit more of the process now, with the SETi servers and stuff, but I do wonder how some of you found all that info out.. Thats some fine useful info...

@Pappa - Can you shot me an email, and explain the beta SETi... Only if ya have time...I take it running the beat version does count towards normal seti scores


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Message 245894 - Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 3:31:14 UTC - in response to Message 245864.  

Ok everyone has to get over the fact that I or no one in this world can process 100 per cpu.... I never in the first post said I COULD process 100 per day... never, nowhere.

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Message 245886 - Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 3:15:26 UTC - in response to Message 245870.  
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Ok everyone has to get over the fact that I or no one in this world can process 100 per cpu.... I never in the first post said I COULD process 100 per day... never, nowhere.

No, you didn't... but explain your question in the first post then?
I was wondering is there anyway to up the w00t's per day, 100 doesn't last long.. I have my pref's set to cache 10 days but it doesn't seem to be enough.

How does 100/CPU/day not "seem" enough?

How many per CPU are you doing in 24 hours?


especially since one of his machines has over 200 Wu's cached...and that number will increase daily if he caches 10 days worth....sheesh.

Russ: The only reason you would need a large cache is if you had connection issues or the weekly outage due to the database maintenance. Set it for 1 day and leaveit alone, trust me, your machine will keep downloading more WU's each time it has "less than the 1 day" worth of work. There is no reason to cache 10 days worth of work. Eventually, each Wu will take 10 days for your machine to report it. That blows the quorum.

He has stated that he is on dialup, and cannot connect every day or even every other day - hence the large cache.

The suggestion of joining other projects is a good one. Click on my sig to find a list of projects - some of them might strike your fancy.

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Message 245870 - Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 2:29:07 UTC - in response to Message 245866.  

Ok everyone has to get over the fact that I or no one in this world can process 100 per cpu.... I never in the first post said I COULD process 100 per day... never, nowhere.

No, you didn't... but explain your question in the first post then?
I was wondering is there anyway to up the w00t's per day, 100 doesn't last long.. I have my pref's set to cache 10 days but it doesn't seem to be enough.

How does 100/CPU/day not "seem" enough?

How many per CPU are you doing in 24 hours?


especially since one of his machines has over 200 Wu's cached...and that number will increase daily if he caches 10 days worth....sheesh.

Russ: The only reason you would need a large cache is if you had connection issues or the weekly outage due to the database maintenance. Set it for 1 day and leaveit alone, trust me, your machine will keep downloading more WU's each time it has "less than the 1 day" worth of work. There is no reason to cache 10 days worth of work. Eventually, each Wu will take 10 days for your machine to report it. That blows the quorum.

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Message 245866 - Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 2:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 245864.  

Ok everyone has to get over the fact that I or no one in this world can process 100 per cpu.... I never in the first post said I COULD process 100 per day... never, nowhere.

No, you didn't... but explain your question in the first post then?
I was wondering is there anyway to up the w00t's per day, 100 doesn't last long.. I have my pref's set to cache 10 days but it doesn't seem to be enough.

How does 100/CPU/day not "seem" enough?

How many per CPU are you doing in 24 hours?
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Message 245864 - Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 2:15:20 UTC

Ok everyone has to get over the fact that I or no one in this world can process 100 per cpu.... I never in the first post said I COULD process 100 per day... never, nowhere.

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Message 245758 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 22:35:21 UTC - in response to Message 245423.  

Yeah Mikey, I had a question about that... What actual difference does it make if your the last to return a WU?... Isn't the credit granted going to be the same?Thanks, Mark

Yes the credit will be the same UNLESS your result was used as a basis for the credit! If your w/u was received as one of the original 3 then it WILL be used, as long as it is valid, if your w/u is NOT one of the original 3 then it may or may not be used. If it is not used as a basis for the credit granted you are just getting credit for the work preformed, not adding to the Science.
BUT if one of the original 3 is NOT a valid crunch then your w/u would be used as one of the 3 valid returns. In that case it is ABSOLUTELY necessary for you to crontinue crunching!

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Message 245638 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 19:07:29 UTC - in response to Message 245328.  

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If your machine supports hyperthreading I think you can get 100 work units a day for each processor. If it does, you may need to change your general preferences to use 2 processors maximum.


he can't crunch 100 WU a day per CPU. I am not sure of anyone crunching WU's in 864 seconds each. HT or not.

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Message 245610 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 17:18:15 UTC - in response to Message 245493.  

Thats Ok guys, I never said anything about doing them on 1 day.. I'm on dialup and it just suck abit to dial up every couple of days just to send and download..

I understand abit more of the process now, with the SETi servers and stuff, but I do wonder how some of you found all that info out.. Thats some fine useful info...


@Pappa - Can you shot me an email, and explain the beta SETi... Only if ya have time...I take it running the beat version does count towards normal seti scores

I'm not Pappa but but I can answer one question..
The Beta project is independent from Seti and the scores are kept separate. Credits can even get lost or reset... It is beta after all and is meant to find the bugs before it is unleashed on the rest of the Seti population. When the current tests of Enhance Seti client is release here, a new Beta project will probably be create to test Astro pulse.

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Message 245510 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 10:21:28 UTC
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Message 245509 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 10:18:09 UTC

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Message 245495 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 8:40:06 UTC

Ok... I've created a beta Team.. But does anyone know how to do HTML... I want a image like my sig


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Message 245493 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 8:14:37 UTC

Thats Ok guys, I never said anything about doing them on 1 day.. I'm on dialup and it just suck abit to dial up every couple of days just to send and download..

I understand abit more of the process now, with the SETi servers and stuff, but I do wonder how some of you found all that info out.. Thats some fine useful info...


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Message 245487 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 7:19:31 UTC

The 100 per day is per CPU up to 4 CPUs, so, you can DL as many as 400 a day per computer. A P4 with optimized science application is going to run 20-45 minutes per work unit.

You only have 2 CPUs each in the two computers you have listed, so there is no way you are going to process that many work units unless you error out on most of them.
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Message 245480 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 7:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 245468.  

I had a question about that... What actual difference does it make if your the last to return a WU?... Isn't the credit granted going to be the same?

Not really. the credit granted will usually be based on the first three returned results (unless the validator is behind for some reason)


AFAICT, assuming the results passed validation on reaching quorum, it just means your claim will have no effect on the credit granted. On average the amount of credit should be the same unless your system is consistently submitting either over-optimistic or 'lowball' claims due to a benchmarking discrepancy or whatever.

OTOH the last result in could be considered less valuable from the science POV, except where the first ones fail to validate.


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Message 245468 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 6:14:43 UTC - in response to Message 245423.  

I had a question about that... What actual difference does it make if your the last to return a WU?... Isn't the credit granted going to be the same?

Not really. the credit granted will usually be based on the first three returned results (unless the validator is behind for some reason)
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Message 245423 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 4:43:33 UTC - in response to Message 245408.  

Hello again,
I was wondering is there anyway to up the w00t's per day, 100 doesn't last long.. I have my pref's set to cache 10 days but it doesn't seem to be enough
Rusty

You do realize that at 10 days you are most likely going to be the 4th person on most of the workunits you return? I had my cache at 4 days and when I checked last week or so I was the 4th in most cases. I have since lowered my cache to 1 day. I have a dual core with HT on each core and am doing 4 units in about 1 hour. Berkeley gives up to 100 wu's per day per processor up to ? number of cpus, I forgot how many the max is.



Yeah Mikey, I had a question about that... What actual difference does it make if your the last to return a WU?... Isn't the credit granted going to be the same?

Thanks,
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Message 245408 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 4:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 245220.  

Hello again,
I was wondering is there anyway to up the w00t's per day, 100 doesn't last long.. I have my pref's set to cache 10 days but it doesn't seem to be enough
Rusty

You do realize that at 10 days you are most likely going to be the 4th person on most of the workunits you return? I had my cache at 4 days and when I checked last week or so I was the 4th in most cases. I have since lowered my cache to 1 day. I have a dual core with HT on each core and am doing 4 units in about 1 hour. Berkeley gives up to 100 wu's per day per processor up to ? number of cpus, I forgot how many the max is.

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Message 245391 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 3:50:48 UTC - in response to Message 245328.  

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If your machine supports hyperthreading I think you can get 100 work units a day for each processor. If it does, you may need to change your general preferences to use 2 processors maximum.



Yup, my HT used to download 200 WU until I changed my report time to 2 days.

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Message 245328 - Posted: 10 Feb 2006, 0:03:09 UTC
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If your machine supports hyperthreading I think you can get 100 work units a day for each processor. If it does, you may need to change your general preferences to use 2 processors maximum.
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