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Message 228314 - Posted: 9 Jan 2006, 5:29:51 UTC
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The following WU has not completed validation even though all four results were returned by Jan 1:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=44817228


Credit has been granted for the three other results submitted earlier that day, but my result is "stuck" in the initial validation state. The WU was distributed on Dec. 31 so there are still a few days before the 14-day expiration hits.

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Message 228406 - Posted: 9 Jan 2006, 12:59:50 UTC - in response to Message 228314.  

The following WU has not completed validation even though all four results were returned by Jan 1:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=44817228


Credit has been granted for the three other results submitted earlier that day, but my result is "stuck" in the initial validation state. The WU was distributed on Dec. 31 so there are still a few days before the 14-day expiration hits.


If for whatever reason its NOT validated, it will just expire and someone else will pick it up. Why it is not validated, I don't know though.
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Message 228425 - Posted: 9 Jan 2006, 14:47:38 UTC - in response to Message 228406.  
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If for whatever reason its NOT validated, it will just expire and someone else will pick it up. Why it is not validated, I don't know though.

A few weeks ago, I had a WU that not not validate after the third result was returned. The log for the result unit showed the validation state as "Checked, but no consensus yet". See:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=25977

Ultimately, after the fourth result was returned, that WU was fully validated and all of the users returning results for the WU were granted credit.

I'm seeing something I haven't seen before with the WU that is the subject of this thread. Any thoughts from Paul or Matt??

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Message 228478 - Posted: 9 Jan 2006, 17:27:47 UTC - in response to Message 228425.  

I'm seeing something I haven't seen before with the WU that is the subject of this thread. Any thoughts from Paul or Matt??

Yes, :)

If you look at the example of "Validation Process" in the wiki it should show an example of this very thing ...

The first three were too far apart to allow the validation "box" to fit over the top. The 4th comes in and it is in the "middle" and bing!, now all 4 fit within the box ...


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Message 228605 - Posted: 9 Jan 2006, 23:55:58 UTC - in response to Message 228478.  


The first three were too far apart to allow the validation "box" to fit over the top. The 4th comes in and it is in the "middle" and bing!, now all 4 fit within the box ...



Right, Paul, that is exactly what I saw when no consensus was reached with the first three results, but when the fourth results arrived, all results were granted credit for that WU.

The WU at issue in this thread had validated the first three results and granted credit. My result was returned later that same day (and only 25 hours after it was sent to my computer), but the credit is still pending. There is no mention of client error, or other bad outcome for my result.

Here's the WU in question:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=44817228


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Message 228796 - Posted: 10 Jan 2006, 10:35:44 UTC

There have been cases where a result is returned and for one reason or another it never seems to be validated. It will be interesting to see if this one becomes one of them. In theory, when the transitioner comes back around it should pick yours up and allow it to be validated.

There may be a minor bug in the logic somewhere there ...
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Message 230044 - Posted: 12 Jan 2006, 6:45:00 UTC - in response to Message 228796.  

There have been cases where a result is returned and for one reason or another it never seems to be validated. It will be interesting to see if this one becomes one of them. In theory, when the transitioner comes back around it should pick yours up and allow it to be validated.

There may be a minor bug in the logic somewhere there ...

So, does the transitioner come back around ~14 days after the last of the 4 results were sent for processing?

Based on what I understand from BOINC-Wiki (excellent resource!), I'm wondering if somehow the WU got dropped in the "waiting for transition queue" after my result was returned. There was alot going on in Berkeley, including multiple reboots, changing the result filenames, rebuilding some of the backend processes, database merge, dropped connections, ... more fun than anyone deserves.

Maybe my result gets a second chance when it's WU is transitioned for the file deleter?? I'll be looking.

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Message 231289 - Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 0:32:01 UTC

I noticed today that credit was finally granted for this "neglected" result. The BOINC credit system works!

Now I can sleep nights again...

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