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Message 226170 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 4:50:42 UTC - in response to Message 226168.  

I've attempted to post this THIS thread a half dozen times in the last 24 hours.


So you don't know how to use a web browser... or speak English. "this THIS"? Okay.
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Message 226171 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 4:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 226169.  

My success rate is well under 5%. Probably the same server problems that are plaguing seti@home are plaguing the message boards and Q&A.


Nope. Nothing other than momentary slowdowns here. Must be your mental ability that is at 5% of what is needed.
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Message 226176 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:04:11 UTC

I am not having problems posting on any other site.

Anything more than a couple of lines and this one hangs.



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Message 226178 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:08:03 UTC

1/4/2006 2:23:19 AM||Attempting to communicate with [setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu] timed out
1/4/2006 2:23:21 AM|http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed with a return value of -182
1/4/2006 2:23:21 AM|http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/|No schedulers responded
1/4/2006 2:23:21 AM|http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/|Couldn't connect to URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/.Please check URL.

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Message 226179 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:09:03 UTC

Waiting for setiathome.berkeley.edu

There's a message I've seen about ten times in the last half hour.

Do you suppose the problem is with the luser?
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Message 226180 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:10:54 UTC - in response to Message 226179.  

Waiting for setiathome.berkeley.edu

There's a message I've seen about ten times in the last half hour.

Check the home page and the technical news. The data-driven web pages (e.g. these fora) are still running, but several other services including upload/download aren't.
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
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Message 226182 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:19:31 UTC - in response to Message 226179.  

Waiting for setiathome.berkeley.edu

There's a message I've seen about ten times in the last half hour.

Do you suppose the problem is with the luser?


Boy, another person to ignore. WOOHOO. From the front page:

Outage Notice
In order to gain more resources to clean out our database, we shut off all the data servers starting at 16:15 UTC. We probably won't be back up until Thursday around noon (Pacific time). More about it in Technical News.


And from the Tech News Page

January 4, 2006 - 21:30 UTC
Well right now we're in the middle of another self-imposed outage to clear the pipes. The BOINC database compression on Monday helped a bunch - enough that the final troublesome queues were draining, but not nearly as fast as we would like.
Here are some numbers: Normally the entire BOINC database, when unloaded to an uncompressed ASCII file, is about 17GB. This is largely due to the huge workunit/result tables. Because of assimilator/file deleter issues, by December 21 the database swelled up to 26GB. On December 28 it was 31GB. Unable to purge old workunits and results, our database ended up nearly double its normal size! No wonder we were in a world of hurt.

After the new year we recovered a bit, and the compression on Monday brought it back down to 26GB. But we still had this annoying backlog of a million workunits and four million results, and until we got those purged, we weren't going to get any smaller.

This morning we turned off the scheduler to allow these queues to finally drain. We estimate it will take until tomorrow morning to clear everything out once and for all. Better to just bite the bullet and fix it rather than watch and hope for improvement during the coming weeks. When the queues all hit zero, we'll do one more quick database compression/backup and get back to work.


This all explains the reason your getting those messages Brant. Go back to school, learn to read, then come back and do some more bitching when you know how to properly type and read.

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Message 226183 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:20:54 UTC
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Brant Goose

Glad to see you back.

I just thought I would mention that connecting or getting your machine going may be a problem right at the moment. The message on the front page says:

Outage Notice
In order to gain more resources to clean out our database, we shut off all the data servers starting at 16:15 UTC. We probably won't be back up until Thursday around noon (Pacific time). More about it in Technical News.


You had your machine running before, I'm pretty sure you will be able to get going again if you try when things are back up.

If you watch this page, and particularly the place that says "upload/download server", you should know when SETI gets going again.

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If you need help, post back here if you can get your messages posted.

In the mean time you can always check out your stats at BOINCstats for Brant Goose.
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Message 226187 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:46:50 UTC

I've been checking all of these pages for weeks.

In the 100,000 Post It (TM) notes that constitute this forum, others say they have not been having problems connecting.

I have Windows XP, Superpacks I and II, and am using Boinc Manager 5.2.13. I haven't the foggiest how to optimize Boinc Manager.

My webbrowser is Firefox 1.5.

I suspect that my new DSL modem router might be playing silly buggers with connections, but it isn't stopping anything else. The download/upload site has been up SOME of the time in the last two weeks.
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Message 226188 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:48:19 UTC

Get use to it folks. Seti will forever be plagued by incompetent workers who can't do their job correctly. I don't think I have seen a month go by without them having problems. This just continues to emphasize the stupidity of their decision to get rid of classic seti. Seti would be gone if most people left like Brant did.
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Message 226191 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:50:30 UTC

Can I just say that a couple of you guys are completely absurd? I can't believe that some of you would get on and rip this guys head off for having an actual problem. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK! It's obvious he's having difficulties with something. Let's figure out what it is instead of insulting him and jumping all over his back. Maybe it's you guys who don't belong in this forum, since you're the only ones who haven't said anything productive about him or his problem.

Anyways, to address your problem Brant, the server is doing OK for now. As stated in the news, they're having a voluntary outage to clear some stuff up that has been looming around since around Thanksgiving (USA day). So that's the reason you haven't been able to connect to the BOINC-SETI servers in a while. To keep your message tab from growing to enormous sizes, you might want to suspend SETI until they turn everything back on.

As for your web experience, is everything up to date? Do you have the latest updates for your web browser? OS? How about the hardware side of things? Is your network card/modem up to date? If you have broadband, is your router/modem up to date on it's firmware? Any/all of these can contribute to faulty connections. I can vouch for the servers at Berkeley running as they should (except for those voluntarily offline). So by process of elimination, the problem lies somewhere between your ISP and your keyboard. Give your updates a check and when everything is up to date, try posting/browsing again and see if it helps. Good luck and happy crunching!
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Message 226192 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:50:43 UTC

My climateprediction WU (250 Mb) downloaded OK and called home for a total 3857 credits as it should. It is not uploading because the project is down.

I will wait.

I have been seeing a lot of frustrated international and Canadian posters with similar complaints. My hardware, ISP, etc., is not causing THEIR problems.
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Message 226195 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:53:27 UTC - in response to Message 226192.  

I have been seeing a lot of frustrated international and Canadian posters with similar complaints. My hardware, ISP, etc., is not causing THEIR problems.

Maybe the fault lies somewhere within the cross country connections. They had some problems with the North America <-> Europe connection a while back. Maybe it's coming to the USA <-> Canada connection now. Still, checking updates never hurts.

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Message 226198 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:57:30 UTC - in response to Message 226188.  
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Get use to it folks. Seti will forever be plagued by incompetent workers who can't do their job correctly. I don't think I have seen a month go by without them having problems. This just continues to emphasize the stupidity of their decision to get rid of classic seti. Seti would be gone if most people left like Brant did.

I'd like to see you do better. Seriously, the project is open. Take all the ideas, build a better BOINC and then show them they have no idea what they're talking about. Oh wait. You barely know how to post a productive idea. Maybe you're going way in over your head on this one.
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Message 226200 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 5:59:51 UTC

Everything is as up-to-date as far as I know and am able to make it so.

I even have the third-party patch for the zero day worm that Microsoft is adressing January 10.

My problems with posting are site-specific. So are my problems with seti@home project.

Well, I've been at this for hours.

Thanks for your attempts to help.

Damn computers. They've been a pest since I took that computer-programming course in 1979. At least the games are better than the one that existed when I was waiting for my punchcards to compile.
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Message 226201 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 6:01:25 UTC - in response to Message 226188.  

Get use to it folks. Seti will forever be plagued by incompetent workers who can't do their job correctly. I don't think I have seen a month go by without them having problems. This just continues to emphasize the stupidity of their decision to get rid of classic seti. Seti would be gone if most people left like Brant did.



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forth, yet another EXPERT.
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Message 226202 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 6:01:54 UTC

I'm off to a site where I can type long, verbose paragraphs.
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Message 226203 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 6:03:27 UTC
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Brant Goose,

When my cable modem and router were first installed it use to lose connections at first. I don't know what the problem was but for no apparent reason I would lose my connection. I think what I had to do to get it going again was to shut down my computer an shut off my router. Then I would have to restart the router and restart my computer. Now for no apparent reason it keeps it's connection (knock on wood). It was sort of weird, like I had to train it or something.

P.S. I just notice that you are running other projects. Maybe they have been interfering with you getting work.
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Message 226204 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 6:05:47 UTC - in response to Message 226200.  

Everything is as up-to-date as far as I know and am able to make it so.

I even have the third-party patch for the zero day worm that Microsoft is adressing January 10.

My problems with posting are site-specific. So are my problems with seti@home project.

Well, I've been at this for hours.

Thanks for your attempts to help.

Damn computers. They've been a pest since I took that computer-programming course in 1979. At least the games are better than the one that existed when I was waiting for my punchcards to compile.

They'll never get any easier either. Ahh, punch cards. Days when debugging meant removing a moth from the wires. All set to removing dust off of your heatsink. Oh well. Keep up with getting it solved. Just don't make it your primary focus, otherwise you'll be frustrated as all get out. If other projects are working, stick with them til things sort out. And check the BOINC site (especially the WIKI) for more projects. I'm into a few Alpha/Beta projects that are working just fine. And remember, the more you're involved in, the less chance that your computer stops crunching.

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Message 226212 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 7:18:48 UTC - in response to Message 225671.  
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Brant

Welcome to Seti Boinc, there are some here that are less than helpful but as you can provide more information "we hope help to get you going." Yes this is late, but wanted to make sure that you had a Proper Welcome.

Please do not let them put you off Seti BOINC.

I have wasted several working days worth of time trying to get Seti@home to upload and download WUs over the last month and trolling through the Q&As, etc. looking for answers.

I have detached from seti@home.


R/

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