Posted this earlier on the wrong forum, but I got the message so here I am.

Can anbody tell me if the screen saver is working as mine has ceased to appear since yesterday, Sunday 18/12/05. I just get a blank screen. If just a glitch at Seti@home or is it on my side.No way of telling with this new Boinc system.

Thanks appleibook1

To test what the problem is, go to BOINC Manager, "Work" tab, select the "Running" SETI result, and click on "show graphics". If the graphics show up, the problem is most likely somewhere in your screensaver settings. If they don't, let us know what happens, and we'll be able to narrow it down more.

Screensaver problems (where it had once worked) would only be on the "project" side if a new application was downloaded to your host that had a bug. SETI hasn't changed the science application in months.

EDIT:: I have an identical iBook G3 to yours, that I'm typing this on - graphics are working for me. Please note that the iBook's graphics processor is not very powerful, so running the SETI graphics takes a _lot_ of time away from the crunching. I use "no screensaver" and just have the display go blank, only look at the graphics manually when I want to.

To test what the problem is, go to BOINC Manager, "Work" tab, select the "Running" SETI result, and click on "show graphics". If the graphics show up, the problem is most likely somewhere in your screensaver settings. If they don't, let us know what happens, and we'll be able to narrow it down more.

Screensaver problems (where it had once worked) would only be on the "project" side if a new application was downloaded to your host that had a bug. SETI hasn't changed the science application in months.

EDIT:: I have an identical iBook G3 to yours, that I'm typing this on - graphics are working for me. Please note that the iBook's graphics processor is not very powerful, so running the SETI graphics takes a _lot_ of time away from the crunching. I use "no screensaver" and just have the display go blank, only look at the graphics manually when I want to.

appleibook1. I have just tried your suggestion. On clicking the show graphics nothing happens. I also run Rosetta@home this has no screen saver sept for a display saying so, that runs OK.

Let me verify that there isn't a basic misunderstanding - if you already know this, I'm not meaning to offend you.

BOINC will run SETI for an hour, then Rosetta for an hour (assuming equal resource shares, no periods where you couldn't get work from one or the other, you haven't changed any of the basic preferences, etc.). One of these projects will show in the "Work" tab as "Running", and the other as "Preempted". BOINC can _only_ show graphics on the process that is "Running", and since Rosetta has none for Mac (yet...) only if the process that is running is SETI, and only if you are not running an "optimized" version of it.

So; if a SETI result is what is currently "Running", and you click on "Show Graphics" and it does nothing, then we need to dig further. If any of this is not true, then you may not have a problem.

Assuming you do show SETI as "Running", but "Show Graphics" does nothing, not even put an icon in the dock, we need to launch Activity Monitor (Applications/Utilities) and click on the CPU tab, then the %CPU column, so it sorts the highest CPU % to the top (may have to click column twice). Wait about five or ten seconds, and you SHOULD see "setiathome_4.18_powerpc-apple-darwin" as the top item, probably getting 70-80%. If not, if there is anything "above" SETI in the list, we'll need to know what it is, and work on it from that side.

We'll get there! :-)

Let me verify that there isn't a basic misunderstanding - if you already know this, I'm not meaning to offend you.

BOINC will run SETI for an hour, then Rosetta for an hour (assuming equal resource shares, no periods where you couldn't get work from one or the other, you haven't changed any of the basic preferences, etc.). One of these projects will show in the "Work" tab as "Running", and the other as "Preempted". BOINC can _only_ show graphics on the process that is "Running", and since Rosetta has none for Mac (yet...) only if the process that is running is SETI, and only if you are not running an "optimized" version of it.

So; if a SETI result is what is currently "Running", and you click on "Show Graphics" and it does nothing, then we need to dig further. If any of this is not true, then you may not have a problem.

Assuming you do show SETI as "Running", but "Show Graphics" does nothing, not even put an icon in the dock, we need to launch Activity Monitor (Applications/Utilities) and click on the CPU tab, then the %CPU column, so it sorts the highest CPU % to the top (may have to click column twice). Wait about five or ten seconds, and you SHOULD see "setiathome_4.18_powerpc-apple-darwin" as the top item, probably getting 70-80%. If not, if there is anything "above" SETI in the list, we'll need to know what it is, and work on it from that side.

We'll get there! :-)

appleibook1. No offense taken you would be supprised at some thread I read on other forums, just how silly some people are.
But back to problem seti@home tops the CPU as you stated.

seti@home tops the CPU as you stated.

... This is two problems in one day that I am unable to solve. I've run a search to see if there were any other reports like this, and there have been none on Macs. The only thing I can suggest at this point is to let this result complete, and see if the same thing happens with the next result - especially after you reboot the Mac. If it does continue to happen, post the information in the Number Crunching forum. That will be viewed by more people, and hopefully someone will have another idea where to look.

seti@home tops the CPU as you stated.

... This is two problems in one day that I am unable to solve. I've run a search to see if there were any other reports like this, and there have been none on Macs. The only thing I can suggest at this point is to let this result complete, and see if the same thing happens with the next result - especially after you reboot the Mac. If it does continue to happen, post the information in the Number Crunching forum. That will be viewed by more people, and hopefully someone will have another idea where to look.

appleibook1. Thanks for your help don't worry about not being able to sort all problems out. To err is human to be precise is well shall we say computerised.

Have a happy Christmas and new year appleibook1

seti@home tops the CPU as you stated.

... This is two problems in one day that I am unable to solve. I've run a search to see if there were any other reports like this, and there have been none on Macs. The only thing I can suggest at this point is to let this result complete, and see if the same thing happens with the next result - especially after you reboot the Mac. If it does continue to happen, post the information in the Number Crunching forum. That will be viewed by more people, and hopefully someone will have another idea where to look.

Bill Michael. Don't know how but it has just started back up this morning. Must have been a download glitch as I have done nothing since I last posted to you.
Thanks again for your time and effort.
appleibook1

has just started back up this morning. Must have been a download glitch as I have done nothing since I last posted to you.

Great! SETI WUs are all "the same" except for the actual data they contain, so problems like this are very rare here. A project such as Rosetta, where one set of WUs can be a totally different protein structure, or parameters for handling it, I would expect the occasional "screensaver has no idea how to display this" problem. Still, the one law that seems to be better enforced even than gravity, is Murphy's...