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Message 209892 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 2:27:02 UTC

Can anyone tell me how long this has been going on? It seems like it's been 3 weeks since I was able to successfully upload a completed BOINC unit.


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Message 209896 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 2:29:39 UTC

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Message 209898 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 2:31:10 UTC - in response to Message 209892.  

Can anyone tell me how long this has been going on? It seems like it's been 3 weeks since I was able to successfully upload a completed BOINC unit.



This whole mess started about 1 week ago. At that time the guys @ berkeley started to play around with moving servers and switching IPs, wich caused the trouble in the first place.

Please be patient as i think i'll clear up the next week.





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Message 210066 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 5:59:18 UTC

Thanks for the input. As I said, my problems have been for about 3 weeks, not 1, but that could just be my tired old computer.
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Message 210105 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 7:38:19 UTC - in response to Message 209892.  

Can anyone tell me how long this has been going on? It seems like it's been 3 weeks since I was able to successfully upload a completed BOINC unit.




What does BOINC manager say under your messages tab. Someone around here will probably be able to recognize your problem.

I see by looking at your computers that it looks like it started messing up on December 6th.

If you have no work to return you may be able to see if reseting helps but the way things are right now I don't think it will do any good. You will probably have to wait until you see things are running again by watching the message boards.
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Message 210415 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 16:23:03 UTC

Mine has been like this about 4 days.Have about 60 wu's to upload.Now cannot get downloads either.
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Message 210423 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 16:28:22 UTC

Am now up to 30 waiting to upload and keep getting the error 500 and something new now failed with return value 106 and failed sending data to the peer.
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Message 210439 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 16:42:00 UTC

Hi

I think it will took another 3 or more days to resolve the problems.
Maybe after the shutdown of classic on dec 15. things will work better.

Have 73 results ready to process and around 60 ready to upload.

BTW: Nice to see you again Rach.

greetz from Germany
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Message 210449 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 16:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 210415.  

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Message 210462 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 17:06:44 UTC

It's Seti only I think. The LHC work units get returned but I have about 90 work units from seti. Their servers were always doing this but it seems it's gotten much worse.

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Message 210468 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 17:13:42 UTC

Does anybody think these problems will be fixed anytime soon.?
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Message 210474 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 17:17:34 UTC - in response to Message 210468.  

Does anybody think these problems will be fixed anytime soon.?


Probably not untill after Christmas break
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Message 210478 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 17:19:28 UTC

I seem to be getting 2 different types of messages:

1)
12/11/2005 7:58:30 AM||Couldn't resolve hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/11/2005 7:58:30 AM||Couldn't resolve hostname [setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/11/2005 7:58:30 AM||Couldn't resolve hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]

2)
12/11/2005 8:24:45 AM||Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/11/2005 8:24:48 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed with a return value of -106
12/11/2005 8:24:48 AM|SETI@home|No schedulers responded


Like an idiot I aborted the upload of several work units, so when they reported I didn't get credit (sure hope E.T. wasn't in one of them!!!) Now that they've turned off the downloader I won't be getting any more BOINC work until they get it all sorted out. Well, there's still Einstein....


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Message 210479 - Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 17:19:41 UTC - in response to Message 210468.  
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Does anybody think these problems will be fixed anytime soon.?


My best guess, since the holidays are coming up, some of the staff is out of the country at a conference, and that the type of problem we have now historically takes a LONG time to get resolved, is sometime around mid-Jan. 2006.

Of course I hope I am wrong, and it gets fixed in a couple of days... But I have a feeling I am not, and may even be UNDERestimating the time it will take.

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Message 211364 - Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 12:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 210468.  

Does anybody think these problems will be fixed anytime soon.?

Yes ...

Then again some think I am insane too ... :)
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Message 211481 - Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 14:23:48 UTC - in response to Message 210468.  

Does anybody think these problems will be fixed anytime soon.?

Fixed? No.
Configured around until it shows back up again in a few months, Yes.
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Message 211490 - Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 14:32:29 UTC - in response to Message 210439.  

Hi

I think it will took another 3 or more days to resolve the problems.
Maybe after the shutdown of classic on dec 15. things will work better.

Have 73 results ready to process and around 60 ready to upload.

BTW: Nice to see you again Rach.

greetz from Germany
Mike


I think it will have more to do with retasking the classic resourses and figuring out what someone did wrong when changing the current servers around. As someone else said, probably Christmas break would by my un educated guess.

There are plenty of other projects to keep your computer busy in the mean time.

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Message 211515 - Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 14:57:37 UTC - in response to Message 210478.  

I seem to be getting 2 different types of messages:

1)
12/11/2005 7:58:30 AM||Couldn't resolve hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/11/2005 7:58:30 AM||Couldn't resolve hostname [setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/11/2005 7:58:30 AM||Couldn't resolve hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]
<snip>


I see this as good news. I just hope it is the result of something Berkeley has done and is/becomes extensive.

It's good because these requests have not even tried to 'interrupt' the upload server to do something it cant handle, leaving it to get on with other work it might be able to handle.

I have suggested in another thread that the problem is similar to a DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack - albeit self inflicted.

I dont know how it's done, but preventing requests from even reaching the server is a valid response to DDOS atatcks.

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Message 211624 - Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 16:39:55 UTC

I got a new one

12-12-2005 17:34:28||Attempting to send data to [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu] failed [failed sending data to the peer]
12-12-2005 17:34:29|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 14ap04ab.18162.13106.642346.0_2_0: system write
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Message 211662 - Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 17:19:28 UTC
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Right now I have 40 results trying to upload and 4 to download. I am not whining. I know the server load is the problem. I know no credit will be lost. I'm just trying to expressing an idea.

It seems to me that a couple of features could be included in BOINC to better deal with work accumulation such as this.

The ability to temporarily suspend upload or download of individual items or groups of items on the transfers tab AND a result prioritization scheme where in the event of heavy traffic upload attempts are scheduled based on their due date rather than the current seemingly random selection.

Reason? Give results due soonest the opportunity to upload unimpeded by the attempts to upload results due later.

If an individual has 40 results to upload, each of these files results in an individual attempt at a connection to the server.
40 separate retries at random intervals.

Now, let's assume that these results are due in groups of 10, each due on a separate day. Let's say the 16th-19th. By prioritizing by due date and pausing all but the results with the earliest deadline, connection attempts would be significantly reduced. In this case there would be connection attempts to upload the 10 results due on the 16th rather than constant attempts to connect and upload all 40. Once the results due on the 16th are uploaded, the next group due on the 17th would have their chance.

Now, before I wind up being flamed or jumped on,
I'm just trying to throw something out there.
A slightly different perspective.
Maybe it'll make one of the devs go 'Hmm.. what if...'

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