I still cannot download any work at all...keeps saying cannot find host setiathome.berkeley.edu....*sigh*

If it's saying "cannot find host" you have a DNS problem. Turning splitters on and off won't help that.

This is not a DNS problem, this is a seti berkley problem. This is just one of the error messages that Boinc returns when it has problems conneting and returning the result.

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Hello Hans,

I guess what we see is caused by the feeder process being disabled. Without the feeder looking at things, there will be no increase in WFV, and we can't see the incoming results in the stats anymore.

Yes, that's what I tried to say. And "feeder turned off" or "scheduler is not responding" is pretty much the same in this situation ... ;-)

The deadline check is done after validation. As long as the validators are off, no result will fail its deadline.

That's right. But I tried to explain, why we still observe a decreasing of the "in progress" numbers. Because with "feeder turned off"/"scheduler not responding" these numbers should stay where they are. And "results beyond deadline aren't count as 'in progress'" was the only reasonable explanation I could figure out for the observed behaviour. It is something completely different that these results will still get their credit.

Carsten

Hi Dave,

Presuming that there's no new units going out now, then
it's interesting to look at the In Progress graph, for example
at TeamSETI.

I'm sorry, but you cannot tell from these figures that there is any progress:

If the "in progress" numbers are decreasing because of uploading and reporting results than there should be an increasing in the "waiting for validation" numbers. But that's not the case: "waiting for validation" hasn't changed since about 7:00 UTC. And the reason is very simple: The scheduler does not respond since that time.

I'm afraid but the decreasing of the "in progress" numbers is caused by results reaching their deadlines ...

Which leeds to my own question: Are there any figueres where you can see, how many results are successfully uploaded?

Carsten

Hi Carsten,

I also noticed the change in the stats behaviour. I guess what we see is caused by the feeder process being disabled. Without the feeder looking at things, there will be no increase in WFV, and we can't see the incoming results in the stats anymore.

The deadline check is done after validation. As long as the validators are off, no result will fail its deadline.

Regards Hans

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Hi Dave,

Presuming that there's no new units going out now, then
it's interesting to look at the In Progress graph, for example
at TeamSETI.

I'm sorry, but you cannot tell from these figures that there is any progress:

If the "in progress" numbers are decreasing because of uploading and reporting results than there should be an increasing in the "waiting for validation" numbers. But that's not the case: "waiting for validation" hasn't changed since about 7:00 UTC. And the reason is very simple: The scheduler does not respond since that time.

I'm afraid but the decreasing of the "in progress" numbers is caused by results reaching their deadlines ...

Which leeds to my own question: Are there any figueres where you can see, how many results are successfully uploaded?

Carsten

I get this below in Red and I wish It could be fixed:

12/10/2005 1:54:08 PM|SETI@home|Reason: Requested by user
12/10/2005 1:54:08 PM|SETI@home|Reporting 2 results
12/10/2005 1:54:30 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed with a return value of 500
12/10/2005 1:54:30 PM|SETI@home|No schedulers responded
12/10/2005 1:54:31 PM||Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/10/2005 1:54:31 PM|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 16ap04aa.11863.8114.754822.47_0_0: system I/O
12/10/2005 1:54:31 PM|SETI@home|Backing off 4 minutes and 3 seconds on upload of file 16ap04aa.11863.8114.754822.47_0_0
12/10/2005 1:56:05 PM|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 30se04aa.8299.8736.603396.204_0_0: error 500
12/10/2005 1:56:05 PM|SETI@home|Backing off 27 minutes and 12 seconds on upload of file 30se04aa.8299.8736.603396.204_0_0
12/10/2005 1:58:35 PM|SETI@home|Started upload of 16ap04aa.11863.8114.754822.47_0_0
12/10/2005 2:01:47 PM|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 16ap04aa.11863.8114.754822.47_0_0: error 500
12/10/2005 2:01:47 PM|SETI@home|Backing off 2 hours, 34 minutes, and 50 seconds on upload of file 16ap04aa.11863.8114.754822.47_0_0
12/10/2005 2:07:00 PM|SETI@home|Started upload of 22ap04ab.2370.3826.173580.108_3_0
12/10/2005 2:07:23 PM||Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/10/2005 2:07:23 PM|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 22ap04ab.2370.3826.173580.108_3_0: system I/O
12/10/2005 2:07:23 PM|SETI@home|Backing off 2 hours, 47 minutes, and 53 seconds on upload of file 22ap04ab.2370.3826.173580.108_3_0

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If it's saying "cannot find host" you have a DNS problem. Turning splitters on and off won't help that.

Well "Jason" isn't the only person who get a "host not found" issue.

I've got exactly the same problem (am based in East Anglia, UK).

from here (as well as before):
09/12/2005 23:53:40||Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]

until here:
10/12/2005 11:08:25||Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu]


I also get:
10/12/2005 11:14:52||Attempting to send data to [setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu] failed [failed sending data to the peer]

and:
10/12/2005 18:30:41|SETI@home|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed with a return value of 500


So, I'm sure it's not me or the hardware - am now crunching for other projects (successfully), while SETI get itself sorted.

Timbo

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Presuming that there's no new units going out now, then
it's interesting to look at the In Progress graph, for example
at TeamSETI. My nearest SWAG is that there are about 2 million
units (excess - in Retry mode) out there waiting to get returned. And for the
last 12 hours or so, In Progress has lost about 25K units. I take
that to be the rate at which uploads are coming in (since no units
are going out to add to In Progress), or about 50K per day.

I seem to remember Matt saying, no too long ago, that typical production
is 700K units per day. And now, the server can consume only 50K per day.
This system is not under more load that it can (or could, last week or so)
handle. It has lost 90% of it's capacity, since DLs are turned off,
as well as some other processes.

I hope they come up with the answer to the greatly diminished capacity.

Now, let's see - 2M units to return, at 50K per day - now, where did
I leave that slide rule............

Dave

The ready to send queue is now growing!

yep, but the feeder is off, so the scheduler should not be aware of the new files that are standing by to be sent (as far as I understand the process)

With the splitters off, thank the stars, this mess has some chance of being sorted.

How many days are we looking at?

Time will tell. As soon as the ready-to-send queue zeroes it should stop getting worse at least.

The ready to send queue is now growing!

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With the splitters off, thank the stars, this mess has some chance of being sorted.

How many days are we looking at?

Time will tell. As soon as the ready-to-send queue zeroes it should stop getting worse at least.

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How many days are we looking at?

Probably a Berkeley 2 days - or the end of next week at the earliest to anyone else ;)

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With the splitters off, thank the stars, this mess has some chance of being sorted.

How many days are we looking at?

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I still cannot download any work at all...keeps saying cannot find host setiathome.berkeley.edu....*sigh*

If it's saying "cannot find host" you have a DNS problem. Turning splitters on and off won't help that.

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I still cannot download any work at all...keeps saying cannot find host setiathome.berkeley.edu....*sigh*

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

With the splitters off, thank the stars, this mess has some chance of being sorted.

yeah. I have taken 4 days of work for every evenience. :D

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With the splitters off, thank the stars, this mess has some chance of being sorted.

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