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Message 205880 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 18:11:42 UTC

I think we will run out of WUs soon. My estimate is at about 6AM 08/12/2005.

Anyone else feel like guessing?
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Message 205888 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 18:18:48 UTC

I'll take 5:59:59 08/12/05 and earlier.
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Message 205894 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 18:24:13 UTC

There's about 14 hrs left, so I'll go for 8-Dec-05 08:00
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Message 205899 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 18:28:03 UTC - in response to Message 205894.  

Right -- well I for one am certainly glad I've got other projects on my computers -- I've suspended SETI since Monday and am relying on Einstein and Climate to keep my CPU's busy. That works pretty well, since both those projects (with significantly lower workloads and a significantly smaller Seti Classic expatriate population surge, have historically run a LOT more reliably than SETI BOINC.


There's about 14 hrs left, so I'll go for 8-Dec-05 08:00


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Message 205917 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 18:39:57 UTC - in response to Message 205899.  
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I think there is about 6 or 7 hours of new work units available.

So, my "running out of new units" guess is 01.15 am on December 8th, 2005.

NOTE:
I looked at the server status at 16.08 UTC and this showed there was 519,853 WUs ready to send. The server status now shows the queue of new units at 439,483. I reckon this means just over 80,000 were issued in the last 2.5 hours. However, I am allowing for a slow down in issuing new WUs, to give more time than 5 - 5.5 hours predicted by these figures. This means others can grab an earlier slot.

My SETI-BOINC cache is over 5 days :-)) slaps thighs with joy

Anyone think of how the "actual WU running out time" can be monitored and reported?

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Message 205921 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 18:44:27 UTC

we could just look at a graph and get a good idea. not perfect though.
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Message 205924 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 18:46:47 UTC

Yeh, seems to me people are harvesting wu's. I know I did.LOL
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Message 205931 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 21:43:39 UTC

11/08/06 good old CPDN!!!
And the beat goes on
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Message 205949 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 21:59:48 UTC - in response to Message 205931.  

11/08/06 good old CPDN!!!


Yes, but at some time in the future (depending on your share settings and CPU power) your scheduler will enter EDF mode and crunch soley CPDN.

IMHO, if you want only a backup to Seti, then better choose projects with short WU's like LHC, Rosetta and Einstein.

Of course if you deliberately want to dedicate resource share to CPDN then that's a different matter.

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Message 206008 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 22:41:43 UTC

I'll get some splitters up before the end of the day today. Tech news to come.

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Message 206021 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 22:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 206008.  

I'll get some splitters up before the end of the day today. Tech news to come.
- Matt


Bugger!!

There goes the chance my guess on "running out of WU" will be right ;-(( <giggle>
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Message 206024 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 22:58:27 UTC - in response to Message 206008.  

I'll get some splitters up before the end of the day today. Tech news to come.

- Matt


That'll be a shame, unless you have sorted the load problems on the upload/download servers.
Running out of WUs then slowly re starting the splitters would seem to be a good way to (a) clear the backlog, then (b) increase the work in progress slowly to find the max capacity of the servers.


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Message 206031 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 23:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 206024.  
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I'll get some splitters up before the end of the day today. Tech news to come.

- Matt


That'll be a shame, unless you have sorted the load problems on the upload/download servers.
Running out of WUs then slowly re starting the splitters would seem to be a good way to (a) clear the backlog, then (b) increase the work in progress slowly to find the max capacity of the servers.



I'll second that. Leave the splitters off 'till tomorrow.
Switch them on one by one as soon as kryten stops dropping connections.

This might be the fastest way to get us out of this mess.

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Message 206037 - Posted: 7 Dec 2005, 23:14:39 UTC

Okay, my guess by now: not this year.
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Message 206136 - Posted: 8 Dec 2005, 1:12:25 UTC - in response to Message 206008.  

I'll get some splitters up before the end of the day today. Tech news to come.

- Matt

Galileo is up for splitting now.

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Message 206206 - Posted: 8 Dec 2005, 2:08:47 UTC - in response to Message 205949.  

11/08/06 good old CPDN!!!


Yes, but at some time in the future (depending on your share settings and CPU power) your scheduler will enter EDF mode and crunch soley CPDN.

IMHO, if you want only a backup to Seti, then better choose projects with short WU's like LHC, Rosetta and Einstein.

Of course if you deliberately want to dedicate resource share to CPDN then that's a different matter.



This did happen to my on one of my machines, even though I was crunching seti, CPDN took over and would not crunch seti anymore. CPDN had a 17% priority level while seti had the rest of the cpu. I had to suspend cpdn to get seti to go, eventually had to remove CPDN all the way.
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Message 206442 - Posted: 8 Dec 2005, 5:25:07 UTC - in response to Message 206206.  
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11/08/06 good old CPDN!!!


Yes, but at some time in the future (depending on your share settings and CPU power) your scheduler will enter EDF mode and crunch soley CPDN.

IMHO, if you want only a backup to Seti, then better choose projects with short WU's like LHC, Rosetta and Einstein.

Of course if you deliberately want to dedicate resource share to CPDN then that's a different matter.



This did happen to my on one of my machines, even though I was crunching seti, CPDN took over and would not crunch seti anymore. CPDN had a 17% priority level while seti had the rest of the cpu. I had to suspend cpdn to get seti to go, eventually had to remove CPDN all the way.






There is your problem to little share for CPDN and to big of a cache, I have 50% for CPDN and connect at 1 and have 6 (1 Slab and 5 Sulphur)CPDN running on two 840ees ht enabled......opps plus Seti, Rosetta, Einstein, Predictor, LHC...
And the beat goes on
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Message 206452 - Posted: 8 Dec 2005, 5:37:12 UTC - in response to Message 205949.  

11/08/06 good old CPDN!!!

IMHO, if you want only a backup to Seti, then better choose projects with short WU's like LHC, Rosetta and Einstein.


This will not work on my machine.

I attached to Seti and Predictor. No Seti-Unit available for crunching, only one is downloading and downloading and downloading since yesterday. Predictor is run out of work on my machine but the boinc client requested no more work :-(

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Message 206529 - Posted: 8 Dec 2005, 8:14:01 UTC - in response to Message 206452.  

I attached to Seti and Predictor. No Seti-Unit available for crunching, only one is downloading and downloading and downloading since yesterday. Predictor is run out of work on my machine but the boinc client requested no more work :-(


Work that is downloading is counted as "present" - has to be, it may show up at any moment. Suspend SETI and Predictor will download and run.
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Message 206533 - Posted: 8 Dec 2005, 8:17:29 UTC

And some of the splitters are back on line.
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