Nah, thought better. Screw the star-complainers.

No doubt here you would.

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Nah, thought better. Screw the star-complainers.

No doubt here you would.

That's clever! I said "screw" as in "disregard" but you cleverly took the other meaning of "have sex with" and used it instead. That's SO clever! Did you just think that up? Gosh, you should be writing for Leno!

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Nah, thought better. Screw the star-complainers.

No doubt here you would.

That's clever! I said "screw" as in "disregard" but you cleverly took the other meaning of "have sex with" and used it instead. That's SO clever! Did you just think that up? Gosh, you should be writing for Leno!

And this from a "grad" student. Sorry, your not getting any and sex is all that is on you mind, but as you were the one that saw it that way one can only assume that must have been how you meant it?

Myself, from reading your posts, I was not suprised that is how you feel..that is all I thought.

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Grad student doesn't imply maturity - just a minimum level of intelligence.

Besides, this whole thread is Bizarro universe. I mean, where else other than CRAZY LAND are people seen as the bad guys for donating money to a non-profit scientifc project?

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this whole controversy is becoming more and more like LORD OF THE FLIES...an alien social experiment gone crazy.

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PROUD TO BE TFFE!

The thing that irks me most, in this whole discussion, in any discussion for that matter, is how some people have an innate ability of putting words in others keyboards and "assuming" that's what was said. How sad, and pathetic. Those folks should not be in an environment such as this if they "assume" the other person said "this" when they said "that" instead. >:-| |-:

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Grad student doesn't imply maturity - just a minimum level of intelligence.

Besides, this whole thread is Bizarro universe. I mean, where else other than CRAZY LAND are people seen as the bad guys for donating money to a non-profit scientifc project?

It's simple Matt, though you just don't see it. Anyone that is crunching is "donating to the project".

The fact that you send $10 to UCB to pay Matt the syops salery in no more important than the donations provided by crunchers.

Only Matt the sysop sees his take home pay important for the project, and therefore, started the green stars!

There was a book read a few years back, and don't remember the author or the exact title. The title, as I recall was something like "the purple dot". The basic premise had to do with Washington DC, and special privilegs given to those with purple dots on their licence plates.

Ah! Just found it "Purple Dot" by Jim Leherer.

If you really think at computer time and resources donated to Seti/Boinc are as important as a $0.50 contribution (I guess there really was one in the last couple days!), hide your green star!

It's only a "Bizarro universe" because Matt Davis doesn't understand it. Not that others DO understand it!

Why didn't seti/boinc just learn from what the same UCB people did on classic?

Add a "badge". In classic, it was based on WU's, but there's no reason that donations here couldn't be based on credits!

E.g.

First badge at 1000 credits
then 10,000 credits
then 50,000 credits
then 100,000 credits
then 250,000 credits...

etc, etc, etc.

Seems this would show the crunching donation. And it worked well in classic for years and a goal that people could see and could obtain. It would be cool if the "classic badges" were also carried forward!

But the green star helps to pay Matt the Sysop's salery, so I can see why that's more important!

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this whole controversy is becoming more and more like LORD OF THE FLIES...an alien social experiment gone crazy.

Dan, it's really funny (kind of). Everyone had a status before, Matt, Jeff, Rom, Rob, Jamus, Dr. A (and anyone i've missed by mistake at UCB). We have people here already with "Volunteer Tester" ... (DB, Ingleside...)

But suddenly a green star creates havoc.

It would be nice to be able to decide where my contribution goes, like towards a new server, more RAM, a newer SNAP, the whole RAID issue...

But I see now that it is not that way, all I can do is contribute.

BTW, my check isn't until Thursday, can I borrow $25.00 'til then? ;-)

Grad student doesn't imply maturity - just a minimum level of intelligence.

Besides, this whole thread is Bizarro universe. I mean, where else other than CRAZY LAND are people seen as the bad guys for donating money to a non-profit scientifc project?

It's simple Matt, though you just don't see it. Anyone that is crunching is "donating to the project".

The fact that you send $10 to UCB to pay Matt the syops salery in no more important than the donations provided by crunchers.

Only Matt the sysop sees his take home pay important for the project, and therefore, started the green stars!

There was a book read a few years back, and don't remember the author or the exact title. The title, as I recall was something like "the purple dot". The basic premise had to do with Washington DC, and special privilegs given to those with purple dots on their licence plates.

Ah! Just found it "Purple Dot" by Jim Leherer.

If you really think at computer time and resources donated to Seti/Boinc are as important as a $0.50 contribution (I guess there really was one in the last couple days!), hide your green star!

It's only a "Bizarro universe" because Matt Davis doesn't understand it. Not that others DO understand it!

Why didn't seti/boinc just learn from what the same UCB people did on classic?

Add a "badge". In classic, it was based on WU's, but there's no reason that donations here couldn't be based on credits!

E.g.

First badge at 1000 credits
then 10,000 credits
then 50,000 credits
then 100,000 credits
then 250,000 credits...

etc, etc, etc.

Seems this would show the crunching donation. And it worked well in classic for years and a goal that people could see and could obtain. It would be cool if the "classic badges" were also carried forward!

But the green star helps to pay Matt the Sysop's salery, so I can see why that's more important!

SURE!!! By all means, give you 17 badges for 111,111,111,111,000 credits crunched. End result? You have 17 badges, while Matt gets paid what he was making 4 years ago with no "Cost-Of-Living" increase, medical benefits, etc... (and they can't make it work any better unless we contribute more than cpu cycles)

BTW: It's not just Matt

SURE!!! By all means, give you 17 badges for 111,111,111,111,000 credits crunched. End result? You have 17 badges, while Matt gets paid what he was making 4 years ago with no "Cost-Of-Living" increase, medical benefits, etc... (and they can't make it work any better unless we contribute more than cpu cycles)

BTW: It's not just Matt

Do your understand how badges worked in classic? I guess not. It's one badge that changes based on the level of donation of work you've done.


Why should Matt the sysop get a "cost of living" increase? I'm being paid what I was 4 years ago, but I have to spend more for healthcare! That's the way of the world these days! Let Matt the sysop unionize his shop!


If Matt the sysop (and others) could get more pay working outside UCB, why are they still there?

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Change the Green Star into a Pom-Pom!

That will keep everyone happy!

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Do your understand how badges worked in classic? I guess not. It's one badge that changes based on the level of donation of work you've done.


Why should Matt the sysop get a "cost of living" increase? I'm being paid what I was 4 years ago, but I have to spend more for healthcare! That's the way of the world these days! Let Matt the sysop unionize his shop!


If Matt the sysop (and others) could get more pay working outside UCB, why are they still there?

To be honest, no. But I don't give a rats ass because "Classic" badges do not mean anything to me.

I served in the military, how would you feel if I started posting pics of my medals here & there... maybe comments to the effect: azwoody, why don't you have this medal? (granted I could have posted worse, but I chose not to) I'm very proud of those medals, but I do not/have not mentioned it until now. I wear them when it's appropriate.

If you cannot understand why Matt or anyone else should get a cost of lining increase, knowing how hard he has worked... well, you're just another PLONK!

Do your understand how badges worked in classic? I guess not. It's one badge that changes based on the level of donation of work you've done.


Why should Matt the sysop get a "cost of living" increase? I'm being paid what I was 4 years ago, but I have to spend more for healthcare! That's the way of the world these days! Let Matt the sysop unionize his shop!


If Matt the sysop (and others) could get more pay working outside UCB, why are they still there?

To be honest, no. But I don't give a rats ass because "Classic" badges do not mean anything to me.

Maybe you should understand classic badges before you attack me for proposing something similar here!

I served in the military, how would you feel if I started posting pics of my medals here & there...

I'd think you were clueless! I DO think however that badges from classic do have a place on Seti II!

If you cannot understand why Matt or anyone else should get a cost of lining increase, knowing how hard he has worked...

Ok.. Contact me offline so I can get my cost of living increase. I'll give you my legal name so that the check you send me is accepted by the bank! I'll give you a green star on my website!

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Do your understand how badges worked in classic? I guess not. It's one badge that changes based on the level of donation of work you've done.


Why should Matt the sysop get a "cost of living" increase? I'm being paid what I was 4 years ago, but I have to spend more for healthcare! That's the way of the world these days! Let Matt the sysop unionize his shop!


If Matt the sysop (and others) could get more pay working outside UCB, why are they still there?

To be honest, no. But I don't give a rats ass because "Classic" badges do not mean anything to me.

Maybe you should understand classic badges before you attack me for proposing something similar here!

I served in the military, how would you feel if I started posting pics of my medals here & there...

I'd think you were clueless! I DO think however that badges from classic do have a place on Seti II!

If you cannot understand why Matt or anyone else should get a cost of lining increase, knowing how hard he has worked...

Ok.. Contact me offline so I can get my cost of living increase. I'll give you my legal name so that the check you send me is accepted by the bank! I'll give you a green star on my website!

Matt and the rest of them deserve the appropriate pay, benefits & all.

I read what he writes, & what you write. (think you deserve something?)

I never attacked you, but you provoke everyone...

Just because Seti@Home is a NON PROFIT ORG doesn't mean that people working within it are. The Green Stars are going to be not only, a HANDY link to their donation page but, also a reminder to all those that haven't got one, they haven't contributed.

Got to hand it too you Matt a nice way to increase otherwise flagging contributions to your Sala.. (COUGH) Seti

Strange also to note that nobody from SETI has time to keep us updated about the project (not outages) but Matt has plenty of time to participate in this forum about donations (MONEY) Nice.... (see the sticky about donations)

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Is it there yet?

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Is it there yet?

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hehehe....it is!

[quote]Grad student doesn't imply maturity - just a minimum level of intelligence.

I doesn't imply a minimum level of intelligence, it implies a minimum level of education.

[quote]Grad student doesn't imply maturity - just a minimum level of intelligence.

I doesn't imply a minimum level of intelligence, it implies a minimum level of education.

You need a minimum level of intelligence to get into the good programs in the first place, as well as to complete them. Any schmo can get into college if they have enough money, but having money isn't an issue in grad school - if fact, I'm being paid to attend, through tuition remission and a stipend. I wouldn't have this wonderful opportunity if it weren't for my minimum level of intelligence.

However, I can see how some people in this thread might not like it. Earning a PhD would be an unfair distinction based on personal sacrifice, just like a green star. These people think nobody should be recognized for something that they themselves are not willing to do. As such, my PhD would be "unfair" in their twisted sense of "equality," just like the green star.

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