The way I look at it, if someone pulled the plug at this very instant, we would have no more science completed than we did about a week ago, because the validation/assimilation pipeline is choked. It's that simple. 'We' are doing nothing but pushing electrons until (at least) the database is up to date.

The good news is that the WFV queue is slowly reducing, even with all those processes turned off. So we are on the right track.

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May this Farce be with You

I made this point in another thread, but it is relevant here as well. Our work isn't complete until the wu's are entered into the science database, which means that they need to be validated and assimilated. It is not very relevant how many of are uploading/downloading until the entire system can process the wu's being computed. So I don't think things are that rosey yet. Maybe tomorrow. It seems command central is still turning on and off processes to balance the load.

I don't think it's reasonable to call the project "down" just because the work hasn't been validated -- especially if, on average, the validators and transitioners are keeping up.

I'm not calling things "rosey" -- I'm simply questioning how we measure.

SETI could invest in more and faster hardware (and a bigger room to put it in), and that would make "users" happier, but there would be no scientific gain.

Lost data is a different question, and as far as I can tell no data was lost.

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@azwoody

IT is doing all I want it to do. I declare BOINC/SETI recovered for my purposes.

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Stanley


Boinc Wikipedia - the FAQ in active change

Maybe they should BOINC the BOINC.

If you mean that they should distribute more of the data processing, I'm all for it. But it would take at least one more developer ;)

Yep, that's exactly what I mean. Anyone with extra room and bandwidth on their server.



Those brave chaps at seti,berkeley>

Maybe they should BOINC the BOINC.

If you mean that they should distribute more of the data processing, I'm all for it. But it would take at least one more developer ;)

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May this Farce be with You

Maybe they should BOINC the BOINC.

I made this point in another thread, but it is relevant here as well. Our work isn't complete until the wu's are entered into the science database, which means that they need to be validated and assimilated. It is not very relevant how many of are uploading/downloading until the entire system can process the wu's being computed. So I don't think things are that rosey yet. Maybe tomorrow. It seems command central is still turning on and off processes to balance the load.

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May this Farce be with You

Waiting for validation 436,776
Transitioner backlog 15 hours

Seems like there is a fair degree of 'not yet recovered' still to clear up.


Again, not complaining -- though at best I find the back and forth 'jawing' going on here a tad amusing.

Folks do need to lighten up a bit.

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As Mr Negativity himself was foolish enough to predict ....

My guess... August 15, noon, PDT.

... and as I've just seen all my boxes upload their results and download plenty of fresh work, I wonder who has egg all over their face right now???

Who cares about validation for the moment. We are uploading results and downloading fresh work aren't we?? Isn't that all that really matters??

And well done to the Seti staff for what seems to be a magnificent recovery from a fairly extensive outage. 99.999% of the volunteers are thankful for your efforts and wish you well for the future performance of this project.

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Cheers,
Gary.

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Will you please please please go away from these forums so people like your Apostles may get their own barings again and post their own thoughts again.

Thank you for a mature response... I guess your still sore from the bikini wax you got for when your panties are in a bunch too!

Being "overly positive" is far more dangerous to the project than being negitive. New folks think all is "wonderful" and then see what it's really like and get mad!

You know what asswoody.... Ooops, I mean azwoody.... If you can't sit back and just go with the flow, detach and leave. If you're THAT unhappy and find the need to pour your negativity on the rest of us, just leave. Otherwise, go to the fridge, get a beer, sit in you favorite chair, turn on your TV to your favorite soap opera, watch it, swig your beer, wait for the recovery from this last outage and come back when you're considerably more positive. I'm going with the flow, always have and always will. >:-| |-:<

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All of my pending work has uploaded, and I've received new work, apparently with little difficulty, so it looks like the answer might be August 7th.

There was some paused uploads and downloads initially but everything cleared as of a few hours ago.

All of my pending work has uploaded, and I've received new work, apparently with little difficulty, so it looks like the answer might be August 7th.

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Enter your guess! As things have still not recovered from the last planned outage (the validator queue keeps growing after the validator shutdown and restart!), you'll need to take this into account!

My guess... August 15, noon, PDT.

Fair guess -- *provided* there is not another outage between now and then.

Given the length of this outage, and the as yet unresolved validator issue, we can hope that after a week things will run smoothly over here.

Not a big deal, I'm not whining about it -- I have virtually no workstations where SETI BOINC is 'top dog' in terms of resources these days. There was a time that my BOINC farms had 20 or more SETI specific or SETI dominant workstations. I figure that once things do recover *and stay recovered for a couple of weeks*, I'll reset the resource shares to push more cycles back to SETI. As it is, I'm pushing out a LOT of Einstein and Climate work instead.

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Look what the cat dragged in... I noticed the foul stench and realized someone had left the Cafe door open again.

Why don't you crawl back to where you came from and stop harassing people like that? This user you're posting images of isn't even a user here anymore! You're really lowlife, Ms Fit.

I guess your still sore from the bikini wax..

If that was a cheerleading point, may I point you that it's you're, not your?

Being "overly positive" is far more dangerous to the project than being negitive.

With a lot of you around, negitivity turns into nigitivity, and before we know it, the KKK rules these boards.

Wow.. You really don't like being made the fool, do you? Suddenly you're pulling a race card when none was there! Where the heck did you see "nigitivity"?

Granted, I had a typo in negative, but your are making an extreme leap here! BTW, you fool... I'm part African American.

What a frigging idiot you are.... Thank you for proving it to the other posters!

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I guess your still sore from the bikini wax..

If that was a cheerleading point, may I point you that it's you're, not your?

Being "overly positive" is far more dangerous to the project than being negitive.

With a lot of you around, negitivity turns into nigitivity, and before we know it, the KKK rules these boards.

Why don't you run your posts through a spellchecker first before you wash them onto these boards, so we really know what you mean?

While you find one, you're a laugh. And a negativist. And a Near-Leader. See you on the other side of the outage. Asshole.

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i'm right behind you.

I'm off to the cafe...

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Define NORMAL??

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

Taking into account the outage, that will occur today evening, my guess is sometime in the end of august, assumed no more 'planned' outages will occur until then...

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Aloha, Uli

SETI will return to normal on Aug 17th at 15:34 PDT

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