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Terry Send message Joined: 17 Sep 00 Posts: 153 Credit: 1,805,202 RAC: 0 
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Cool. Who has the cable franchise in Johnson County? Intermountain Cable? ID: 134960 ·  |
 Celtic Wolf  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3278 Credit: 595,676 RAC: 0
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They do (or should), because I helped install it at the head-end. I'd rather speak my mind because it hurts too much to bite my tongue. American Spirit BBQ Proudly Serving those that courageously defend freedom. ID: 134959 · |
MJKelleher  Send message Joined: 1 Jul 99 Posts: 2048 Credit: 1,575,401 RAC: 1
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I hide my computers because a friend of mine runs seti and i don't want him to see if i add or remove or exchange a system... Now there is a legitimate reason!  ID: 134890 · |
Siran d'Vel'nahr  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7346 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 540
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Are you saying, then, that I'm under suspicion because I chose to have my computers hidden? Hmmmm.... Shhhhhhhh.... Don't say that too loud. It's supposed to be a secret. >;-) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr XO - L L & P _\\// USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187 Winders 10 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath ID: 134870 · |
-= Vyper =-  Send message Joined: 5 Sep 99 Posts: 1630 Credit: 1,065,191,981 RAC: 5,753 
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I hide my computers because a friend of mine runs seti and i don't want him to see if i add or remove or exchange a system... That's my only reason.. Just to tease my fellow friend..  _________________________________________________________________________ Addicted to SETI crunching! Founder of GPU Users Group ID: 134863 · |
Astro  Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
Are you saying, then, that I'm under suspicion because I chose to have my computers hidden? Hmmmm.... I think you're safe. If you've only managed to get 50K credits by cheating in all the time you've been here, then you're doing it wrong. LOL now if you had 2,000,000 credits and a RAC of 121, then I'd be suspicious.  ID: 134857 · |
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Terry Send message Joined: 17 Sep 00 Posts: 153 Credit: 1,805,202 RAC: 0
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Actually, it's Paintsville, KY and I'm not sure if Johnson County has high speed cable or not. ID: 134840 · |
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Celtic Wolf Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3278 Credit: 595,676 RAC: 0
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Well you would be wrong in several locations throughout the US and Canada. For instance if you were in Paintville, KY and had cable your internet speed would be a symetric 10MB. Many Cable companies are starting to install Fiber to the Premise(FTTP) connections. The key point here is if I wanted to get information I wouldn't be using what I can see from the SETI site when viewing computer information. I know much better ways to get information. I'd rather speak my mind because it hurts too much to bite my tongue. American Spirit BBQ Proudly Serving those that courageously defend freedom. ID: 134832 · |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7346 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 540
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........ Are you saying, then, that I'm under suspicion because I chose to have my computers hidden? Hmmmm.... .... Not sure I agree here.... If I were to seek help, I would include the basics of my computer[s] so that my problem can be analyzed WITHOUT someone telling me they need more information about my system[s] to give help. I've done it in the past, and, if need be, I will do it in the future. CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr XO - L L & P _\\// USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187 Winders 10 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath ID: 134821 · |
ric  Send message Joined: 16 Jun 03 Posts: 482 Credit: 666,047 RAC: 0 
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[quoteThere is no LEGITIMATE reason to hide your computers. Hiding the computers only fosters mistrust. Get rid of it. [/quote] That I would not underline, as you mentioned it, it's youropinion.. The "hide" possibility is part of the design and has it's grants therefore. I can't write for other opinions than mine, doing the boinc since now more than a year, it happen to get more host entries (= database entries) than really having, in various circumstances/situation. Just upgrade from time to time the boinc clients, -->new host entry. milti boot the same PC with windows2000 or XP and crunch the same work, often generates a new entry. Playing with full automated OS installation, this, you know it, --> new host entry. When you descide to support for a while an other project than an actual, because xyz and you detach the host from a project and later reattach it --> new host entry. There are probaly plenty more technical reasons why this can happen. The fact is, the host list is "wrong". People are not used to read whats written there (looking to deep rac) they only count the number of entries and believe they are right. Some are taking the time and try to read waht's written there, but you can count them fast. To everybody it happens, when crunching 10'000 or more WUs, that one can be brocken. What are people doing? they start a Hexenjagt, a hunt for the gulty. one more time, it's part of the design of boinc, just use it or not use it. I'm very happy, that I could make this descision myself;) I do accept, some people might have a problem because some are hiding their equipment, but myself, I don't care about. Bad is, if somebody askes for help and is hiding the host(s), so support is not possible, you mentioned it already. You mentioned it too, to the project stuff, all informations are availale anyway. curiosity kills the cat! keep crunching ID: 134795 · |
KWSN - MajorKong  Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0
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Well... yes, but how about from one of those computers that aren't his? He can be "outed" and maybe fired. While it is true that we can't tell for certain... We CAN make an educated guess. Check out your upload/download speeds. If, for instance, the download speed is several times what is normal for 'home' class internet connections, either you are a college student living in a dorm room with a RESNET connection... Or, you are running that box at work. On the subject of 'hidden' computers, that feature only serves the purpose of keeping other participants from seeing a small subset of the information on that person's computers. You don't hide ANYTHING from Berkeley; Berkeley maintains all the information, its just not visible over the regular webpages. There are too many participants for the Staff at Berkeley to police, so limiting access to this data only serves one purpose: to keep curious/nosey participants from figuring out that the 'paranoid' participant might be doing something 'funny'. Such as either they have an unauthorized BORG, or that they are trying a cheat. Both of these situtations are not allowed by the S@H project, so therefore the suspicion level should GREATLY increase on someone that DOES have 'hidden' computers, especially since the amount of information visible to someone other than the 'owning participant' is reduced even when the computer is NOT hidden (nothing really identifiable is present in the computer listing, except to the 'owner' when they are logged in). In my opinion, the option to 'hide' your computers should be removed. Hiding the computers only makes helping you when you have problems a LOT harder. There is no LEGITIMATE reason to hide your computers. Hiding the computers only fosters mistrust. Get rid of it. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. ID: 134773 · |
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MJKelleher Send message Joined: 1 Jul 99 Posts: 2048 Credit: 1,575,401 RAC: 1
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Well... yes, but how about from one of those computers that aren't his? He can be "outed" and maybe fired. Someone who isn't logged in as can't see the identifying information from those computers, either. If you look at mine, you won't be able to tell which is sitting on my desktop at home, and which is on my desk at work. I'm not outed. ID: 134730 · |
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0
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Well... yes, but how about from one of those computers that aren't his? He can be "outed" and maybe fired. Then he/she should not be using those computers anyway ... ID: 134728 · |
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SoNic Send message Joined: 24 Dec 00 Posts: 140 Credit: 2,963,627 RAC: 0 
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Well... yes, but how about from one of those computers that aren't his? He can be "outed" and maybe fired. ID: 134722 · |
Jord  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15157 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 6 
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Another reason is that they are using computers that are not belonging to them. And they don't want that to be seen (those computers will show the network names from that network). Only the owner sees the computers by name. All we see is the owner's name if he chooses to show his computers. Not the computer name, thus not the name selected by the network. ID: 134641 · |
scatter  Send message Joined: 25 May 05 Posts: 10 Credit: 33,168 RAC: 0
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Oh man, picking on the Hungarians. For shame! and you're absolutely right, as far as SETI goes I'm a n00b. good job captain obvious! *jokes ID: 134635 · |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Oh man, picking on the Hungarians. For shame!  "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me 
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Misfit  Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21803 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0
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Oh man, picking on the Hungarians. For shame! me@rescam.org ID: 134624 · |
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SoNic Send message Joined: 24 Dec 00 Posts: 140 Credit: 2,963,627 RAC: 0
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Another reason is that they are using computers that are not belonging to them. And they don't want that to be seen (those computers will show the network names from that network). ID: 134622 · |
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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15157 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 6
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Sure... Try it in this one as well. (p.s.: Can you dumb it down even more then? The BS level can go into the negative?) ID: 134596 · |
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