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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15157 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 6
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you need a backup project, one set to 1%, if seti runs out of work you still can crunch. Why not connect to Seti Beta as well then? Ignore the message at the front page about how it's shut down, account creation is working. I got WU from them. :) |
Neil Woodvine Send message Joined: 22 Nov 02 Posts: 49 Credit: 429,050 RAC: 0
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mlcudd Send message Joined: 11 Apr 03 Posts: 782 Credit: 63,647 RAC: 0
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I am attached to 15 (the sixteenth was Pirates (RIP)). A Sentimental type of guy, huh Neil? Respectfully, Rocky www.boincsynergy.com |
Neil Woodvine Send message Joined: 22 Nov 02 Posts: 49 Credit: 429,050 RAC: 0
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Neil Woodvine Send message Joined: 22 Nov 02 Posts: 49 Credit: 429,050 RAC: 0
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It's pretty simple really: with higher demand (especially after several long outages) the splitters are barely keeping up. It's hard to tell from the server status page, but the # of results left to send is anywhere from 0 to 50 at any given time, meaning we're creating work that is immediately being snatched up by hungry clients. Also note the transitioners are falling behind - they are the guys that turn split work into available work to send out. Just curious, with the optimized client basically doubling the output on most of my pc's and many other peoples are you noticing a big increase in the throughput of wu's ?
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MJKelleher Send message Joined: 1 Jul 99 Posts: 2048 Credit: 1,575,401 RAC: 1
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Boinc client is too unreliable and complicated for multiprojects right now, per this message board. Most of the gripes on the board right now concerning reliability are SETI only. The BOINC gripes seem to me to be around differences of opinions on scheduling and crediting, not reliability. BOINC is working, the projects are sometimes having problems. But the real issue is that I'm not generally interested in running a bunch of projects. If the boinc work units didn't time out, then I would probably join one or two other ones. Since there is a time limit, a 1% time allocation is probably not really ever contribute. A 1% allocation won't contribute much, time limit or no. But the scheduler makes sure that any downloaded units are completed on time, and then just doesn't download another until it's time to make up that 1%, or when there's no work available on the 99% project. You're covered for the inevitable outages and shortages, which are not the fault of BOINC but are intrinsic to the projects. However, I want to attack the most scientifically difficult project I can, which is Seti. That is, there is or will be lots of money for biology computing, using better systems than boinc. But not a lot of Senators would stand up and defend ET. So government funding is going to be minimal and that is where I come in, in my small way. Hear, hear! I don't see much support heading for pulsars and gravity waves either, so my main projects are SETI & Einstein, wiht the other two as backups on small resource shares. I'm still waiting to get through to SSL for fresh work here, but E@H has been keeping my main box busy (the other two don't go through them as fast, and didn't run out this time). |
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John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0
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Boinc client is too unreliable and complicated for multiprojects right now, per this message board. 4.4x will still meet the deadlines for any work downloaded (if at all possible), therefore the work will not be wasted. That project will not be contacted again for some time until the other projects have had a chance to catch up. Of course when a CPU is idle, the daemon will try to get work from any where that you are attached to. BOINC WIKI |
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PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 2
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Boinc client is too unreliable and complicated for multiprojects right now, per this message board. All I can do is look at the gripes on the message board. But the real issue is that I'm not generally interested in running a bunch of projects. If the boinc work units didn't time out, then I would probably join one or two other ones. Since there is a time limit, a 1% time allocation is probably not really ever contribute. However, I want to attack the most scientifically difficult project I can, which is Seti. That is, there is or will be lots of money for biology computing, using better systems than boinc. But not a lot of Senators would stand up and defend ET. So government funding is going to be minimal and that is where I come in, in my small way. Thanks for bragging though. 16 projects is really impressive. May this Farce be with You |
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John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0
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Boinc client is too unreliable and complicated for multiprojects right now, per this message board. I am attached to 15 (the sixteenth was Pirates (RIP)). BOINC WIKI |
Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4545 Credit: 35,667,570 RAC: 8
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It's pretty simple really: with higher demand (especially after several long outages) the splitters are barely keeping up. It's hard to tell from the server status page, but the # of results left to send is anywhere from 0 to 50 at any given time, meaning we're creating work that is immediately being snatched up by hungry clients. Also note the transitioners are falling behind - they are the guys that turn split work into available work to send out. Hi Matt thank you very much for your post and information. byron <B>Happy Canada day</B> |
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Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0
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Boinc client is too unreliable and complicated for multiprojects right now, per this message board. What are you talking about? I'm attached to 16 projects. What exactly is unreliable and complicated? |
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PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 2
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you need a backup project, one set to 1%, if seti runs out of work you still can crunch. Boinc client is too unreliable and complicated for multiprojects right now, per this message board. Besides my passion is seti and I don't care about the other things much. Just checked and I got a wu. So I'm good for another 5000 seconds. May this Farce be with You |
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Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1253 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 31
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OT = Off Topic ?? Yes, that's the meaning i presumed Aloha, Uli |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0
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[(Totally) OT] I love it... ;) [/OT] i lobe also the OT btw OT = Off Topic :) Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli |
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Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1253 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 31
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[(Totally) OT] I love it... ;) [/OT] Aloha, Uli |
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SURVEYOR Send message Joined: 19 Oct 02 Posts: 375 Credit: 608,422 RAC: 0
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you need a backup project, one set to 1%, if seti runs out of work you still can crunch. Fred BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha
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PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 2
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I looked and no new wu's yet. I did notice that this crazy boinc client jumped over two blocks of 3-4 wu's (as listed from seti/boinc server page). It completed those on either side, but the other ones just aren't there. Maybe the server isn't going to give me any if I still have some?? But of course I don't. Catch-22 May this Farce be with You |
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PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 2
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Yes, of course there is a cache. But it seems that it is completing the wu's faster than it is receiving wu's. Not sure why, but that's the fact. Let's see what the night time brings. (Maybe we wont' have two more outages like last night) May this Farce be with You |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0
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Ok, I'm antsy. My fastest computer just ran out of work. Can't wait to read the tech news on today's fiasco's. Probably somebody stole the air conditioner to cool the registrar's office, or some such. do you have no Cache... i have no Probs with my Hosts here to set up a Cache for BOINC SAH Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli |
Matt Lebofsky Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1444 Credit: 957,058 RAC: 0
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It's pretty simple really: with higher demand (especially after several long outages) the splitters are barely keeping up. It's hard to tell from the server status page, but the # of results left to send is anywhere from 0 to 50 at any given time, meaning we're creating work that is immediately being snatched up by hungry clients. Also note the transitioners are falling behind - they are the guys that turn split work into available work to send out. So basically as the weekend draws near and activity quiets down a bit, I'm sure we'll see bad queues drain and good queues fill. - Matt -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude |
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