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消息 128279 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 17:51:22 UTC

....some of us don't wish to just 'move on' when the issue is an unjust war.

More complacency is not an option....
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消息 128270 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 17:36:45 UTC - 回复消息 128167.  

*But he doesn't support the illegal war your government has started (or the Orwellian tactics by the American far-right at all). Is that your problem now?

Mr. Grüße vom Sänger,
I have found many of your posts to be very informative and helpful to many people in the past. I also am not surprised at your alignment with Paul Zimmerman. You seem to be very well versed, and very capable of using your own words in Post that you make. I have found very little repetition in your posts. I do however find it in Paul Zimmerman's Post. Where were you when Paul was running for Political Office In Alaska... "Out of the Country I suppose".Since you have chosen to jump on the Zimmerman's bandwagon, maybe you could direct him to the proper places where he could earn the necessary votes to actually effect change to the Masses. Since the "media" is so wishy-washy in the way they report, I am sure you could teach Zimmerman the correct tactics, in the correct forums, to spread his rhetoric. Sanger..a DEAD HORSE is a DEAD Horse. How many times a day, do you have to be reminded of your countries "Shortcomings", or "believed shortcomings" . Not that often I assume. Are you an Activist in your country? Or do you hold or aspire to hold a Political Office in your Country? If you do, then Paul could definitely use your help. It is very easy for those outside our country to knock what goes on in our country. Most of us do not agree with every aspect and every undertaking that our president and Administration take on. But that's what makes this a Great Country. We have the ability to say what we feel. We make our feelings known, and move on. WE USE OUR OWN WORDS! We do not have to rehash the same thing over and over and over, using Links to other peoples feelings. Mr. Sanger, you may be a Man Among Men in your country, So instead of jumping on the Zimmerman bus, teach him, direct him, take him under your wing. Just remember the bus makes the same sound no matter who it runs over...thump..thump...

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消息 128269 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 17:36:27 UTC - 回复消息 128265.  
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[font='courier,courier new']Was I talking to you?

No.

Now go take a hike.[/font]
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消息 128265 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 17:33:07 UTC - 回复消息 128259.  
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I made clear that his machine was Tiger capable on 19 Apr 2005 8:05:55 UTC, pointed out that his CPU is faster than mine, offered all three CDs of Panther plus the Developer's CD within the same hour.



And as I have stated many times...

I either misunderstood the offer at the time or did not view it in that same time frame... it was not until days later that I reviewed the thread and discovered my missing the offer...

And that is what was relayed to you when I discovered that.....

I have always been appreciative of all your efforts to assist me in technical matters here...

I have always expressed that appreciation...

Once again, you attempt to speak for me by implying that I consider you an asshole...

You don't speak for me.

You don't control my thoughts....

(though, you have misrepresented both, my words and thoughts many times....)


For the record.... (I just again reviewed this 'record', ........do read the thread where this offer is made and the sequence of postings..... the misrepresentations should be clear....

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消息 128259 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 17:23:47 UTC

<p align="center">[font='courier,courier new']For the record...[/font]</p>[font='courier,courier new']I tried to get BOINC running on Jaguar on 2 Feb 2005 23:10:57 UTC, but ran out of luck on 8 Feb 2005 19:43:29 UTC. I told Paul "[/font]I guess you'll have to upgrade to Panther (or wait for Tiger to come out).[font='courier,courier new']"

On 1 Apr 2005 23:58:40 UTC I reiterated "[/font]Panther Required.[font='courier,courier new']"

I made clear that his machine was Tiger capable on 19 Apr 2005 8:05:55 UTC, pointed out that his CPU is faster than mine, and offered all three CDs of Panther plus the Developer's CD within the same hour.

I don't care if he chews the fat and shoots the breeze or shoots the fat and chews debris - I've got a lot of patience, as evidenced by the longest text-only post to the biggest wanker yet to ever pester the fora. But I would rather a million Guidos, a billion BrainSmashRs, and a trillion WordWeavers, than someone who doesn't crunch for BOINC, let alone SETI/BOINC.

I think February through June is more than enough time to stop pussyfooting and get crunching, but WTF do I know - I'm just another asshole to you, aren't I?

And finally, for the record, this is the last time I'll post in re. this bullshit.[/font]
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消息 128237 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:34:40 UTC - 回复消息 128231.  

Deleted the rehash....
.... and your quote of you own post....

Jeese....!!!! Talk about SPAM!!!!
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消息 128231 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:30:40 UTC - 回复消息 128195.  

Back to a topic with relevance.....





The decision has been made.. don't waste your breath.

Condi and I have regular meetings, once every month or so—she and I get together for thirty or forty-five minutes, just to review the bidding.

And I raised this issue about were we really sure that we wanted to put Iraq front and center at this point, given the war on terrorism and other issues.

And she said, essentially, that that decision's been made, don't waste your breath.

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My sentiments exactly.... >:-)

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消息 128227 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:22:58 UTC - 回复消息 128219.  

Yes! When I already know about it, yes, it's old news....


Perhaps you should read Paul Krugmans article again. It's also about this despiceble attitude to declare unfavorable news to "old news", just to not be forced to admit former failures. Without looking at and reflecting on "old news", learning is impossible. But that's just wht the trigger happy war heads in the white house want. And unfortunately most of the right wing biased media as well.
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消息 128219 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:15:37 UTC - 回复消息 128218.  

OLD news deleted....

GO AWAY!!!!


Do you really think of yesterdays columns as old news????

Yes! When I already know about it, yes, it's old news....
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消息 128218 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:14:02 UTC - 回复消息 128212.  

OLD news deleted....

GO AWAY!!!!


Do you really think of yesterdays columns as old news????
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消息 128216 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:11:04 UTC - 回复消息 128199.  


I do still crunch for Classic, (true, I have yet to buy another OS so I can use Boinc.... but that will come to pass when I can afford it)

Much is made of a past offer by NA to 'give' me another OS.... at the time, I missed seeing or misunderstood that the offer was made....

Ever since, it's been claimed that I 'refuse' to participate.......

That I don't contribute.....

Not true........ I turn in WUs daily..... (unless the servers are down)



Could you share to us, how did you got those 11 credits? We would all apreciate it...

He refuses to disclose that information on the grounds that he knows it wasn't "legally" earned.

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消息 128212 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:08:50 UTC - 回复消息 128195.  

OLD news deleted....

GO AWAY!!!!
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消息 128211 - 发表于:26 Jun 2005, 16:07:02 UTC - 回复消息 128176.  

So, he's an active cruncher.

[font='courier,courier new']SETI Classic cruncher. Not BOINC. Nuff said.[/font]


Obviously you ar either incapable or unwilling to read the official Berkeley policy towards this, clearly written on the boards main page over @Classic:

[font='courier,courier new']WARNING: We will soon be ramping down these message boards and we highly encourage everybody to start using the BOINC message board system:

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php

Of course, you'll have to register your account with BOINC to post new messages there. In case you haven't done so, information is here:

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_participate.php [/font]


It's been said to you PZ-bashers often enough.

More OLD news! The above does not justify his consistant spamming of these boards BEFORE the above message was posted. [To quote NA] Nuff said....

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So, he's an active cruncher. Full stop!

He is NOT an active BOINC cruncher! He belongs to the "Classic" fora, not here.

But he doesn't support the illegal war your government has started (or the orwellian tactics by the american far-right at all). Is that your problem now?

It's NOT the fact that he's against the war in Iraq, I am too. It's his consistant rehashing, rehashing, rehashing with his copy/pastes and links. It gets old reading OLD news over, and over, and over.... Remember WW....?

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there's an awful lot of lies and misrepresentations being put forward here on this board.

I don't think so.... Except in your case....

I do still crunch for Classic, (true, I have yet to buy another OS so I can use Boinc.... but that will come to pass when I can afford it)

More bullshit.... You were offered it FREE of CHARGE and you turned it down.

Much is made of a past offer by NA to 'give' me another OS.... at the time, I missed seeing or misunderstood that the offer was made....

Excuses, excuses.... It was explained to you in plain English which you obviously DO NOT understand. The offer was given a time limit and you still refused it.

Ever since, it's been claimed that I 'refuse' to participate.......

You do and it's a fact. Give me a while, I'll dig up your exact words....

That I don't contribute.....

You DON'T....

Not true........ I turn in WUs daily..... (unless the servers are down)

Not HERE you don't! At "Classic" maybe.... Go to their boards and spew your spam....

As to the two previous posts by tom and siran:
I have never said I will not convert to Boinc.... siran lies.
and I have stated opinions that I hold..... tom lies.

Vulcans do not lie. Like I said above, I'll dig up your exact words and let everyone make their own judgement.... [not verbatim]

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There are a few here who think they can speak for me, .....they think they can represent my views, .....they think they can manage my affairs, ...they think they can represent me before others....

If you remember, in the beginning, I crusaded on YOUR behalf telling people that you belong here. Since then, you have proved you DO NOT....

....
And Seti still has a place on this machine.... when the day comes that I can no longer run Classic.... I will, as I have stated before, switch to Boinc as soon as I can afford to upgrade this OS by purchasing my own version of an OS which is compatible.....

If the above were true, you would have done the switch a LONG time ago. You knew in the beginning that "Classic" was going to be shut down. Almost a year ago I found out about BOINC and jumped on the bandwagon without a single look backwards. I did not find out until months later that "Classic" was going to be shut down.

Why does it take you so long to come up with your crap to try to 'pull-the-wool' over peoples eyes? Nothing you say is going to change anything. The hole gets deeper and deeper the more you click the 'Post reply' button....

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I do still crunch for Classic, (true, I have yet to buy another OS so I can use Boinc.... but that will come to pass when I can afford it)

Much is made of a past offer by NA to 'give' me another OS.... at the time, I missed seeing or misunderstood that the offer was made....

Ever since, it's been claimed that I 'refuse' to participate.......

That I don't contribute.....

Not true........ I turn in WUs daily..... (unless the servers are down)



Could you share to us, how did you got those 11 credits? We would all apreciate it...
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Back to a topic with relevance.....

New York Times

In a new Rasmussen poll, 49 percent said that Mr. Bush was more responsible for the war than Saddam Hussein, versus 44 percent who blamed Saddam.


And that's in the US, with it's right wing biased media. I guess here in Europe about 90% will say that Bush and his lapdog Blair started it.
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Back to a topic with relevance.....



New York Times

In a new Rasmussen poll, 49 percent said that Mr. Bush was more responsible for the war than Saddam Hussein, versus 44 percent who blamed Saddam.

Slate

Condi and I have regular meetings, once every month or so—she and I get together for thirty or forty-five minutes, just to review the bidding.

And I raised this issue about were we really sure that we wanted to put Iraq front and center at this point, given the war on terrorism and other issues.

And she said, essentially, that that decision's been made, don't waste your breath.

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The decision has been made.....
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