So I guess it's good time for some maintenance :-/

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6/3/2005 9:35:59 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed
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It is a sad sad day when someone takes your spoon away from you...

http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/~cricket/inr-668-interfaces.html

I can't connect at all.

It is sad that they can not keep the computers running. One of my computers crunched a lot, but the time will expire before I can return them.

Nick

PS: I had hoped that BOINC would be more reliable than SETI was.

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It is sad that they can not keep the computers running. One of my computers crunched a lot, but the time will expire before I can return them.

Nick

PS: I had hoped that BOINC would be more reliable than SETI was.

All is not lost, if you return a result after the deadline you may still get the appropriate credit. If the WU has not reached quorom when you return the result it will still count. Only results returned after the deadline and the quorom has been reached are wasted. Since everybody is unable to connect then there is a strong chance that you will still get credit once the network connection is restored.

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It does not look like the network is down as the servers are still reachable, it is more likely that the actual service you are trying to connect to on that server, eg the scheduler, has stopped responding for some reason, eg spinning or crashed.

If it was the network then it is unlikely that you would get any ping response at all.

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will run out of work in 2 hours...
Those guys wont fix it until Monday,will they?

That will really depend on what the problem is and whether they know about it.
If is easily fixed, like a simple re-boot, then it may be fixed.
From the timing of the fault start, I guess it failed just after Berkeley went home.
A while back it was a recently installed software firewall that blew-up and it got removed again fairly quick.

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http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/~cricket/inr-668-interfaces.html

I can't connect at all.

It is sad that they can not keep the computers running. One of my computers crunched a lot, but the time will expire before I can return them.

Nick

PS: I had hoped that BOINC would be more reliable than SETI was.

A tad unfair PS isn't it... Between starting crunching on 30 May 1999, and moving to BOINC 8-10 months back, I can count the number of times I was without Classic work on the fingers of one hand. For that matter, I have never run out of BOINC/SETI work either.

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http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/~cricket/inr-668-interfaces.html

I can't connect at all.

It is sad that they can not keep the computers running. One of my computers crunched a lot, but the time will expire before I can return them.

Nick

PS: I had hoped that BOINC would be more reliable than SETI was.

A tad unfair PS isn't it... Between starting crunching on 30 May 1999, and moving to BOINC 8-10 months back, I can count the number of times I was without Classic work on the fingers of one hand. For that matter, I have never run out of BOINC/SETI work either.

I am glad for you, but i was without work that many times in the last 5 weeks.

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Interestingly enough, SETI classic is still working at the moment including work unit uploads/downloads.

Regarding 'out of work' -- I've avoided that over the past many weeks by three strategies.

One, I've stayed with BOINC 4.19 -- seems the updated versions present something of a mixed bag -- and with 4.19, I've not had problems building up a cache of work (though I HAVE found if you have multiple projects, setting a longer time frame than the way too short .2 days can result in too much work -- I periodically end up resetting Einstein to not be processing units past due).

Two, I have two projects (Einstein and Seti -- though most of my farm are Seti only at the moment) to have a fall back.

Three, much of my farm is still doing SETI classic with a SetiQueue configured to cache for outages. In a pinch, if SETI BOINC goes non-compes-workus and Classic is still working (like now), I can shift BOINC computers back to classic.



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A tad unfair PS isn't it... Between starting crunching on 30 May 1999, and moving to BOINC 8-10 months back, I can count the number of times I was without Classic work on the fingers of one hand. For that matter, I have never run out of BOINC/SETI work either.
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I am glad for you, but i was without work that many times in the last 5 weeks.
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http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/~cricket/inr-668-interfaces.html

I can't connect at all.

It is sad that they can not keep the computers running. One of my computers crunched a lot, but the time will expire before I can return them.

Nick

PS: I had hoped that BOINC would be more reliable than SETI was.

A tad unfair PS isn't it... Between starting crunching on 30 May 1999, and moving to BOINC 8-10 months back, I can count the number of times I was without Classic work on the fingers of one hand. For that matter, I have never run out of BOINC/SETI work either.

You must have an abnormal number of fingers on one hand.

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http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/~cricket/inr-668-interfaces.html

I can't connect at all.

It is sad that they can not keep the computers running. One of my computers crunched a lot, but the time will expire before I can return them.

Nick

PS: I had hoped that BOINC would be more reliable than SETI was.

A tad unfair PS isn't it... Between starting crunching on 30 May 1999, and moving to BOINC 8-10 months back, I can count the number of times I was without Classic work on the fingers of one hand. For that matter, I have never run out of BOINC/SETI work either.

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Apples=14 day time limit/cache limit size/setiboinc
Oranges=no time limit/no cache limit/seticlassic.

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For SETI only Crunchers (Like Myself) who have set Too Low of a Cache and are now out of work I would Reinstall SETI Classic and use that as a Back Up. You will be doing the same work but using a different software is all. SETI Classic is still up right now and You can download as many Work Units as You want. I still have atleast a 5 Day Supply of SETI BOINC work units. If for some reason SETI BOINC is still down and I run dry, I will just do what I did before I had SETI BOINC and Crunch Classic.

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Anyone know how to force seti to give you more work?

I have my cache set to 10 days, but because of the optimised client, I can do 2 work units in 1.5 hrs.

Seti gives me a cache of 20, which only works out to be 10 hrs, and that's been done.

Please, how can I get more work units. (when it's up that is)

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Anyone know how to force seti to give you more work?

I have my cache set to 10 days, but because of the optimised client, I can do 2 work units in 1.5 hrs.

Seti gives me a cache of 20, which only works out to be 10 hrs, and that's been done.

Please, how can I get more work units. (when it's up that is)

The simple answer is you cannot. BOINC still steadfastly ignores the fact that it's benchmarks are an complete wast of time when it comes to estimating WU times (and credit estimates too for that matter - but that's a different thread).
That said, with a cache of 7 days, I manage to span the longest of S@H outages, even though this is really only 3.5 - 4 days actual work.

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Still can't send any work.My work has expiration date of june 16th.So I'll run out of work in about 18 hours.I only download about 2 days work or 3 work units.I do work in about 14 hours on average.So my work won't expire.

Since Boinc waits to grant credit only when there is enough sent back units,I don't want to hold up the process.

I still have seti classic on hold in case I need to start it up. I never uninstalled it.I still do classic on another machine.

I guess all the nay sayers are mad but this happens in the real world.One of my machines went down for a while but berkley wasn't mad at me and wouldn't send me more work when my computer was back up.
We all have to load more work or different projects or have classic in the bullpen warming up.

PLAY BALL

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Looking at the charts, it looks like just before 18:00 EDT that the link went down, just for a couple seconds, then when it came back online, it came on at 1/2 power, but the data is probably all dirty data, so that real data is having a hard time passing through this noise. It's almost like there is static on the line.

So, for my money, I believe it is Cogent that is causing the issues, at least partially.

There are WU waiting to be validated, so something is getting through, sometimes.

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Looking at the charts, it looks like just before 18:00 EDT that the link went down, just for a couple seconds, then when it came back online, it came on at 1/2 power, but the data is probably all dirty data, so that real data is having a hard time passing through this noise. It's almost like there is static on the line.
So, for my money, I believe it is Cogent that is causing the issues, at least partially.
There are WU waiting to be validated, so something is getting through, sometimes.

If you look on the 8th chart, starting from top left and number left to right, there is a spike outbound just before Berkeley got there data cut in half. I wonder if Cogent decided something was wrong and cut them back as a precaution?
It is under fastethernet1_0: 128.32.0.242: side A to inr-201 and then packet/second.
In case we are looking at different pages here is the one I am looking at:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/~cricket/inr-668-interfaces.html

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Even in California we can't connect.

6/3/2005 7:33:29 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed
6/3/2005 7:33:29 PM|SETI@home|No schedulers responded

You're in California....? >;-)

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well i burned thru my cache and thanks to debt issues i have nothing to do, can not download work from any other project attached to... if this keeps up to long i will uninstall and go back to a previous version of BOINC.

That's what this thread is all about.

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if i set it higher (1 day, 2 day,3 day, 5 day, 10 day, anything but .1) it will go into panic mode and not download anything from SETI at all.

well i burned thru my cache and thanks to debt issues i have nothing to do, can not download work from any other project attached to... if this keeps up to long i will uninstall and go back to a previous version of BOINC.

You must have bought into the "0.1 day cache is the only choice for the new scheduler" advise... too bad.

Yep, that's what I found out, but I changed mine to 2 days instead of 0.1 days.

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
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