<blockquote>The taxes on gasoline in the U.S. are the lowest in the industrial world. I just returned from England where the going price is 86 pence ($1.54) per LITRE. Not too many gas hogging SUV's in England. It is pathetic how we whine about our high gasoline prices when we have some of the lowest in the world. That just encourages us to consume more of a finite resource and pour more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. I think that the Federal gas tax ought to be raised to at least 50 cents per gallon, and the revenue used to invest in alternative fuels that are both renewable and non-polluting. </blockquote>

I don't argue the point that the US has lower taxes on fuel. I agree with you on that point. One of my complaints is how they hide the tax. Where I'm at you are no longer allowed to legally display the tax breakdown at the pump because the state politicians didn't want to take the heat from their constituents after a large state fuel tax increase back in the 90's. They blamed the oil companies for the increase when it was actually the politicians adding taxes. That along with the one-way tax increase triggers is what really bothers me on this issue.

Sadly, you could increase the fuel tax by $10 a gallon in the US and it still wouldn't be used for investing into alternative fuels. Politicians on both sides of the aisle in the US would rather waste the money on pork barrel projects. Here's one example of what some of the fuel taxes are used for in the US: $1.5 million dollars for a bus stop.

I'm involved in the public transit industry and let me tell you this, that amount of money for a bus stop is obscene. Even the local transit system up in Anchorage can't figure out how to spend that much on one bus stop. That's our tax dollars at work! Spending $1.5 million for a bus stop when transit systems are losing operating funding and cutting service all over the country.

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To truly explore, one must keep an open mind...

A little shock this morning when My wife went to work. the Gas Station right across the road had it's price for regular unleaded at 2.33 per gallon. This morning it is at 2.18 per gallon. A big drop in one night. After driving into the "city" she observed that the prices are coming down there also. from 2.35 down to 2.25 at most stations. We are in Va, just 40 miles north of the Richmond Virginia refinery and distribution facility. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

Regards,

Rocky

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www.boincsynergy.com

2.44 here .... haven't seen any drop in price for many weeks...
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• We are all addicts of fossil fuels in a state of denial, about to face cold turkey.

And like so many addicts about to face cold turkey, our leaders are now committing
violent crimes to get what little is left of what we're hooked on.

Kurt Vonnegut May 10, 2004

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<blockquote>
>As usual PZ your off the mark and reporting old news......


Uh, no.... I reported that post on May 9th, same day as the links reportage...

You come back 4 days later and tell me I posted old news?


Bullshit. May 9 news posted on May 9 is not old news.

It was current when posted....



Get a grip there.... captim. (as usual)</blockquote>

Paul, I can't believe I am going to say this. Your were right and I was wrong.

Don't get used to it. :-)



BTW: 2.04 gal in VT...

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>As usual PZ your off the mark and reporting old news......


Uh, no.... I reported that post on May 9th, same day as the links reportage...

You come back 4 days later and tell me I posted old news?


Bullshit. May 9 news posted on May 9 is not old news.

It was current when posted....



Get a grip there.... captim. (as usual)

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<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Well, this made me think about the cost of a barrel oil today compared to just a few years ago. A few years ago I remember the cost for a barrel of oil was about 20$-30$. Now, that same barrel costs about twice that amount. The curious thing is that oil producers say that the price will come down. But how much, a few bucks? I mean I can remember all kinds of talk by these oil people about how the price of a barrel of oil will stabilize at around 25$-30$. Now it looks like somewhere around 30$-40$? </blockquote>

Keep watching!! It's already starting to come back down.. The station I get gas in in NC was $2.09 for the mid-grade. It was $2.39 the last time I was in NC.

</blockquote>

The one thing many forget, don't know or in some cases don't want to acknowledge, is that in the US, approximately half the price per gallon at the pump is tax (and taxed much higher in many other countries in the world). Where I'm at, in Pennsylvania, they created a trigger mechanism tied into the the price of crude that automatically boosts the tax when crude hits a certain price. Sadly and typical of our tax and waste politicians here, they won't put a reverse trigger on the tax so when crude falls below the trigger price, the tax goes down. What will happen is the tax remains higher level and will increase again if crude rises again. Sheesh.
</blockquote>

The taxes on gasoline in the U.S. are the lowest in the industrial world. I just returned from England where the going price is 86 pence ($1.54) per LITRE. Not too many gas hogging SUV's in England. It is pathetic how we whine about our high gasoline prices when we have some of the lowest in the world. That just encourages us to consume more of a finite resource and pour more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. I think that the Federal gas tax ought to be raised to at least 50 cents per gallon, and the revenue used to invest in alternative fuels that are both renewable and non-polluting.

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THE MOTHER OF FOOLS IS ALWAYS PREGNANT

I'M TROLLING FOR FOOLS. THIS MUST BE THE PLACE!

<blockquote>Demand just keeps outstripping supplies.

Today's market....... Oil prices surged more than a dollar on Monday as concern over rising global demand offset swelling inventories and the highest output from producer cartel OPEC in 25 years.

U.S. oil inventories are at their highest since the summer of 1999, according to government data.
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As usual PZ your off the mark and reporting old news......


Oil Prices Sink.

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Crude oil will run out sooner or later.

The US Government and scientists should really sit down and think of a way to soften the impact. Gauranteeing the price of cheap gas is not a way to soften the impact.


Jimmy

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Demand just keeps outstripping supplies.

Today's market....... Oil prices surged more than a dollar on Monday as concern over rising global demand offset swelling inventories and the highest output from producer cartel OPEC in 25 years.

U.S. oil inventories are at their highest since the summer of 1999, according to government data.

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<blockquote><blockquote>Well, this made me think about the cost of a barrel oil today compared to just a few years ago. A few years ago I remember the cost for a barrel of oil was about 20$-30$. Now, that same barrel costs about twice that amount. The curious thing is that oil producers say that the price will come down. But how much, a few bucks? I mean I can remember all kinds of talk by these oil people about how the price of a barrel of oil will stabilize at around 25$-30$. Now it looks like somewhere around 30$-40$? </blockquote>

Keep watching!! It's already starting to come back down.. The station I get gas in in NC was $2.09 for the mid-grade. It was $2.39 the last time I was in NC.

</blockquote>

That's cheaper than Germany, but still expensive to fill up a car that takes 50 gallons. What really made me thinking more was an article that I read awhile back that also says that the mostly low-cost fluctuations of the 80's and 90's are gone for good. Article from: NYSE

Just Paid 2.06 Gal In Vermont!

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Price survey.

Breakdown of price by component of price.

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<blockquote><blockquote>Well, this made me think about the cost of a barrel oil today compared to just a few years ago. A few years ago I remember the cost for a barrel of oil was about 20$-30$. Now, that same barrel costs about twice that amount. The curious thing is that oil producers say that the price will come down. But how much, a few bucks? I mean I can remember all kinds of talk by these oil people about how the price of a barrel of oil will stabilize at around 25$-30$. Now it looks like somewhere around 30$-40$? </blockquote>

Keep watching!! It's already starting to come back down.. The station I get gas in in NC was $2.09 for the mid-grade. It was $2.39 the last time I was in NC.

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Here in Northern Virginia it is down to $1.99 for a gallon of regular at the local Wawa.

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<blockquote>

The one thing many forget, don't know or in some cases don't want to acknowledge, is that in the US, approximately half the price per gallon at the pump is tax (and taxed much higher in many other countries in the world). Where I'm at, in Pennsylvania, they created a trigger mechanism tied into the the price of crude that automatically boosts the tax when crude hits a certain price. Sadly and typical of our tax and waste politicians here, they won't put a reverse trigger on the tax so when crude falls below the trigger price, the tax goes down. What will happen is the tax remains higher level and will increase again if crude rises again. Sheesh.
</blockquote>

The highest gas prices on the East Coast per the most reliable TV News (hahaha) is right here in Maryland. Yes it's mainly taxes.

<blockquote><blockquote>Well, this made me think about the cost of a barrel oil today compared to just a few years ago. A few years ago I remember the cost for a barrel of oil was about 20$-30$. Now, that same barrel costs about twice that amount. The curious thing is that oil producers say that the price will come down. But how much, a few bucks? I mean I can remember all kinds of talk by these oil people about how the price of a barrel of oil will stabilize at around 25$-30$. Now it looks like somewhere around 30$-40$? </blockquote>

Keep watching!! It's already starting to come back down.. The station I get gas in in NC was $2.09 for the mid-grade. It was $2.39 the last time I was in NC.

</blockquote>

The one thing many forget, don't know or in some cases don't want to acknowledge, is that in the US, approximately half the price per gallon at the pump is tax (and taxed much higher in many other countries in the world). Where I'm at, in Pennsylvania, they created a trigger mechanism tied into the the price of crude that automatically boosts the tax when crude hits a certain price. Sadly and typical of our tax and waste politicians here, they won't put a reverse trigger on the tax so when crude falls below the trigger price, the tax goes down. What will happen is the tax remains higher level and will increase again if crude rises again. Sheesh.

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To truly explore, one must keep an open mind...

<blockquote>Well, this made me think about the cost of a barrel oil today compared to just a few years ago. A few years ago I remember the cost for a barrel of oil was about 20$-30$. Now, that same barrel costs about twice that amount. The curious thing is that oil producers say that the price will come down. But how much, a few bucks? I mean I can remember all kinds of talk by these oil people about how the price of a barrel of oil will stabilize at around 25$-30$. Now it looks like somewhere around 30$-40$? </blockquote>

Keep watching!! It's already starting to come back down.. The station I get gas in in NC was $2.09 for the mid-grade. It was $2.39 the last time I was in NC.

Well, this made me think about the cost of a barrel oil today compared to just a few years ago. A few years ago I remember the cost for a barrel of oil was about 20$-30$. Now, that same barrel costs about twice that amount. The curious thing is that oil producers say that the price will come down. But how much, a few bucks? I mean I can remember all kinds of talk by these oil people about how the price of a barrel of oil will stabilize at around 25$-30$. Now it looks like somewhere around 30$-40$?

Ahh, but now we have nuclear submarines, and missiles that run on solid fuel or liquid hydrogen. The troops may still have to get out and hoof it, but the tomahawks will still be flying.

<blockquote><blockquote> WW-1 increased the use fuel for ships</blockquote>
Most of those you can strike off, well but for the early submarines, for most ships at that time still ran their steam engines on coal. </blockquote>

Picky picky picky. Coal IS fuel and the price of coal is going up also.

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<blockquote> WW-1 increased the use fuel for ships</blockquote>
Most of those you can strike off, well but for the early submarines, for most ships at that time still ran their steam engines on coal.

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