> >>Damn, I feel old!
> >Yeah, I know the feeling, especially when bringing up all this ancient
> stuff that I remember as brand new technology back in the day.
> But for me, it was yesterday! I grew up on the 99/4A and 800XL!
>
> >The FreeBSD is about to get replaced with Intel/Solaris only so I can run
> BOINC on it. The version of FreeBSD I am running on it doesn't recognize the
> dual processors or it would stay FreeBSD..
> Might I be able to coax you into trying <a> href="http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/">this[/url] distro? It's a
> BSD derivative, and there's an x86 binary if you're feeling daring.
>
> Either way, I've gotta find either a 9" 512×342 monochrome LCD with the
> appropriate CRT-to-LCD adapter, or a 9" 1024×768 full color LCD and a
> Mac Mini...
>
> This Plus's CRT is beyond CPR. It's FUBAR!
>

Well there is that Dual Boot option :) I might just give it a try.. Thanks NA.. My interest was more then piqued when I found out that OsX runs on a Mac Server. I must admit I didn't realize there was such an nnimal.. I may have to save up my money and buy me one..

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>>Damn, I feel old!
>Yeah, I know the feeling, especially when bringing up all this ancient stuff that I remember as brand new technology back in the day.
But for me, it was yesterday! I grew up on the 99/4A and 800XL!

>The FreeBSD is about to get replaced with Intel/Solaris only so I can run BOINC on it. The version of FreeBSD I am running on it doesn't recognize the dual processors or it would stay FreeBSD..
Might I be able to coax you into trying this distro? It's a BSD derivative, and there's an x86 binary if you're feeling daring.

Either way, I've gotta find either a 9" 512&times;342 monochrome LCD with the appropriate CRT-to-LCD adapter, or a 9" 1024&times;768 full color LCD and a Mac Mini...

This Plus's CRT is beyond CPR. It's FUBAR!

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> It is unusual hearing about General Sedgwick from someone outside the
> Spotsylvania Area. There is a memorial to him on the Spotsylvania Battelfield,
> just down the road from me.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Rocky

hi rocky,

Along the lines of the 'small world' meme, I just thought you might find it of interest that in these parts of Alaska there are a number of ex-Spotsylvanian's.... a half dozen or so....

Seems a few migrated here and reports got back, causing more to follow...

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> Ya know, I miss those old boards, just the whole idea of them.
>

The 3.5 inch Floppy Drive on the PC I have FreeBSD installed on is the one I originally put into my IBM AT when they first came out with the 1.44 MB floppy.

My AT went from the desktop to a mini-tower. I replaced the 286 Motherboard with a 368, then a 486, and finally the Pentium.. I have replaced the power supply, the motherboard, the hard drives, but never the mini-tower or that floppy drive.

The FreeBSD is about to get replaced with Intel/Solaris only so I can run BOINC on it. The version of FreeBSD I am running on it doesn't recognize the dual processors or it would stay FreeBSD..

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>
> ...Texas Instruments TI-99/4A...
> I own that too.
>
>
> Damn, I feel old!
>

I still have my ancient TI-99/4A packed away in a box along with the tape recorder and cables needed to save the programs that you created with it. Being the pack rat that I am, I just can't bring myself to toss it even though I know I'll never use it again. I got it shortly after they came out and it probably set me back in learning real basic by several years. I still occaisonally write a basic program on an old stand alone 100 mhz PC I have and will code in the "call" command when I'm tired. That command seemed to be unique to the TI-99/4A's.

Yeah, I know the feeling, especially when bringing up all this ancient stuff that I remember as brand new technology back in the day.

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Ah, nothing like an antique computer thread to get people nostalgic.

My first computer was pretty advanced for the day: an Apple IIc. So much sleeker than the old IIe's and nicely self contained, with extra memory and no need for external drives. Used that one a lot for many years.

To first go BBSing, I bought someone's old Amiga 500. At first I had a 1200 baud modem to putter along with. Luckily, I was just going to local Fidonet boards at the time. My friend who ran one of the boards was able to supply me eventually with a 2400, and finally a 28,800 modem. This last one I carried over to my next computer, a 486 running Linux that I bought for $50. (Of course, that was just for the box. I then had to buy a hard drive, monitor, keyboard and mouse for it.) I still use that old beast today. But, then my inheritance came in, and I decided to get into the current decade at least, so, got my current AMD 1900+ (Top of the line three years ago.)

Ya know, I miss those old boards, just the whole idea of them.

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> "They couldn't hit an elephant from this dist…" (The last words of Union
> General John Sedgwick, at the Battle of Spotsylvania in 1864.)
>
>
Terrorhertz,
It is unusual hearing about General Sedgwick from someone outside the Spotsylvania Area. There is a memorial to him on the Spotsylvania Battelfield, just down the road from me.

Respectfully,

Rocky

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>
> Would have been a pain trying to send emails :(
>

It actually was an email, I was trying to send, when I noticed!!! I didn't before as I was coding php and to that I had the neccessary keys!

> > My God, one feel stupid in that situation!!
>
> You're posting to the person who has been known to wander around looking for a
> pair of scissors while holding them.... don't tell anyone!!! :)
>

Promise!! :-))))

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> This is what my CoCo III looks like:

[link deleted]

That's soooooooo cute, you could keep it as a pet. :) The plastic is still in remarkably white condition.

> > I've never had a Mac, what is the problem key and why? :)
>
> It's not there! Look ... [link deleted]
> I spent a couple of hours looking at that keyboard, asking different persons
> in the office, who all have a Windows system and keyboard, and they all
> looked just as confused as I did! First when my friend arrived, after having
> slept late and taken the morning off, he showed me the combinations and put a
> shotcut in my application manager to the inbuilt
> map, so I could see which keys to press to make the signs, I needed!

Would have been a pain trying to send emails :(

> My God, one feel stupid in that situation!!

You're posting to the person who has been known to wander around looking for a pair of scissors while holding them.... don't tell anyone!!! :)

It was the other way 'round, Vulcan.

Only Ferengis would do what you described.

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> >>....
> >>>....
> >>....
> >....
> >The OS was called OS-9 [not to be confused with Apple's OS 9]
> Apple's got so many suits filed over names: "Classic",
> "OS9", and I think even "X" were settled in court.

Uh, how could Apple file suit over the name OS-9 when Microware had the name long before hand? Microware's OS-9 came out in the '80s. Apple came out with their OS9.... When? Late '90s, early '00s?

The version of OS-9 for the CoCo III was called OS-9 Level Two and was first copyright in 1986. This was the second version of OS-9. I do have a copy of the first version, but cannot find it right now. I really don't see how Apple would have any legal stem to hang from. How could they file suit?

> ....

L8R....

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> > ....
> When I went to PC from C-128, I couldn't believe how bad the graphics were for
> something that had lots of memory. For only 64K of memory, the C64 etc
> rocked.
>

This is what my CoCo III looks like:



L8R....

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Winders 10 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

>>You&apos;re probably thinking of the 520ST which was 68000-based and the 5200 which was a stripped-down 800XL video.
>Yes, I&apos;m probably thinking about the 520ST, not 512 (binary is in my head). Was it out around 1985?
October &apos;85. I still have the articles from Compute! and Antic. That was a fine-lookin&apos; machine... if only I could fit a G5 in the case... [drooling]

>>>...Texas Instruments TI-99/4A...
>>I own that too.
>When they dropped to $50 apiece, I got one too. Didn&apos;t do much with it.
How could you? It was only 256B RAM! Heck - Even the TI-81 kicks 99/4A butt!

>The OS was called OS-9 [not to be confused with Apple&apos;s OS 9]
Apple&apos;s got so many suits filed over names: &quot;Classic&quot;, &quot;OS9&quot;, and I think even &quot;X&quot; were settled in court.

>The only thing that bothered me was that I had a Mac keyboard! I spent a couple of hours trying to find the @ key! ;-) D&apos;oh!!!!
[tap click drag tap tap click click drag] It&apos;s option quote, which is [tap tap] above the return key?!? Weird...

>When I went to PC from C-128, I couldn&apos;t believe how bad the graphics were for something that had lots of memory. For only 64K of memory, the C64 etc rocked.

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> > The only thing that bothered me was that I had a Mac keyboard! I spent a
> > couple of hours trying to find the @ key! ;-) D'oh!!!!
>
> I've never had a Mac, what is the problem key and why? :)
>

It's not there! Look [url=http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/pics/gui/applications/accessibility/keyboardmap/macosx103.png]here!<a>

I spent a couple of hours looking at that keyboard, asking different persons in the office, who all have a Windows system and keyboard, and they all looked just as confused as I did! First when my friend arrived, after having slept late and taken the morning off, he showed me the combinations and put a shotcut in my application manager to the [url=http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macosx103/macosx103]inbuilt map<a>, so I could see which keys to press to make the signs, I needed!

My God, one feel stupid in that situation!!

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> CoCo is short for Color Computer. It sported a 68B09E micro-processor from
> Motorola. There were the CoCo Is and IIs as well, each slightly better that
> the previous. The CoCo III had 128K memory which I upgraded to 512K. Back
> then, that was a lot of memory! I had to hack together a hard drive system
> using a HD controller card from an IBM compatible. It was cool, had a
> whopping 20MB of drive space.
>
> It had built-in B.A.S.I.C. called Disk Extended Color BASIC. The OS was
> called OS-9 [not to be confused with Apple's OS 9]. It was based on Unix and
> written by a company called Microware. OS-9 was so much more advanced than
> MS-DOG. I could do as many things at once that I had memory for. Every
> program used 64K memory for both program and data. I could swich between
> windows with one key.

When I went to PC from C-128, I couldn't believe how bad the graphics were for something that had lots of memory. For only 64K of memory, the C64 etc rocked.

> And I know that my friends with at least OS X.3 have no problems at all with
> reading any of my Office files! I worked with OS X.3 for a while and I was
> amazed by it!

Hooray, it took MS long enough to fix the incompatibility problems. :)

> The only thing that bothered me was that I had a Mac keyboard! I spent a
> couple of hours trying to find the @ key! ;-) D'oh!!!!

I've never had a Mac, what is the problem key and why? :)

Any why does software always say "press any key" - what's darn well wrong with "press the spacebar" or even "press the long bar at the bottom"? :) :)

> Okay, now you mention you have multiple books on snipers, I am a little bit
> concerned. :)
> Please don't be concerned. I grew up in a military family and here in the
> states a few but not all of us charish our right to own guns and to read the
> history of them may help us not to repeat that history.

[wipes persperation from brow] Whew. I'm an ex-military brat too. The coolest part was when dad got his 2-year posting to Singapore (Dieppe Barracks). Except I thought I was going to avoid school for 2 years - figured that Singapore wouldn't have schools - and had told all the school kids about that until I was put right....

Was in Singapore between 1975 and 1977. Wondered why we didn't go up to Thailand (took holidays in Malaysia). A few years later found out that the Vietnam war was still going on in 1975. Which, come to think about it now, may partially explain the armed US squads marching through the streets of Singapore... which messed me up a bit because they all had (I don't know why this was so) "MP" on their armbands. So when I came back to NZ I was wondering why MPs kept being in the news - cross-culture shock as MP in NZ means "member of parliament".
:)

> > ....
> Fairy nuff, did not mean to cause any offence with the term I used. :(
>
> What is a CoCo III?
>

Hey, no offense taken. I've even called them that myself at times.

The CoCo III was the best non-intel, non-microsoft computer made. Radio Shack almost came out with the CoCo IV but decided on the 286 instead.

CoCo is short for Color Computer. It sported a 68B09E micro-processor from Motorola. There were the CoCo Is and IIs as well, each slightly better that the previous. The CoCo III had 128K memory which I upgraded to 512K. Back then, that was a lot of memory! I had to hack together a hard drive system using a HD controller card from an IBM compatible. It was cool, had a whopping 20MB of drive space.

It had built-in B.A.S.I.C. called Disk Extended Color BASIC. The OS was called OS-9 [not to be confused with Apple's OS 9]. It was based on Unix and written by a company called Microware. OS-9 was so much more advanced than MS-DOG. I could do as many things at once that I had memory for. Every program used 64K memory for both program and data. I could swich between windows with one key.

Well, that's the nutshell version of the CoCo III. Gotta go....

L8R....

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USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187
Winders 10 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> [From waaaaay back in the thread...]
> Only computers I saw or used in the 80s were the Timex/Sinclair ZX-80/81,
> the various Tandys, Atari 400/800/1200/512...
> Atari 400, 800, 600XL, 800XL, 1200, 130XE, and 65XE.
> Collectively referred to as "400/800/XL/XE". You're probably thinking of the
> 520ST which was 68000-based and the 5200 which was a stripped-down 800XL video
> game console.
>
> ...Texas Instruments TI-99/4A...
> I own that too.
>
> ...Amiga 500/1000/2000, Vic-20, C-64/128s, various 8086/8088/80286
> PC clones...
> I had a 286 for about a week. Then I got my Mac.
>
> ...and of course AppleII/IIE and spinoffs and the Macintosh line.
>
> Damn, I feel old!
>

My first computer I ever played with was an IBM 1620 and it's 1640 card reader..
I moved up to Challenger 1P and then the Heathkit H-8 and then the H-12. I then moved to a Dec Rainbow to an IBM-XT to an IBM-AT..

Did the Data General and VAX stuff in there too... Ohh yes AT&T 3B200's SGI Iris, Sun's, HP's and NEC..

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