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Message 83475 - Posted: 4 Mar 2005, 19:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 83455.  

> Looking at this thread, generates a question: Does this imply that if for
> whatever reason a WU takes a long tme to calculate (such as our PCs being used
> for word processing or whatever, which is what we have them for) that the
> electricity and time we provide doesn't generate any form of credit?
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> This seems to be a somewhat arrogant approach to clients if true, and may be
> one of the reasons why there is a reluctance for people to move from classic
> to boinc.
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> Bearing in mind that the credit standings is all we get out of this for our
> efforts.

If you don't get into the quorum of results, for whatevere reason, the current standard policy for BOINC projects is to grant no credit.

In a way it does make sense, if the WU fails to validate, it is useless, someone the Over-Clocks their system without knowing what they are doing and returning bad results consistently are wasting everyone's time. No sense in encouraging them.

THere has been off and on discussion about consolation prize awards, but now you have to track a lot of data in the database which is one of the system bottlenecks right now.

A lot of the infrastructure needs to be looked at; but right now the effort is focused on getting the basic software system working across all of the planned system types. Once that is done, and the GUI is made feature complete with the planned features, I am sure that we will see some more effort underway to address the back-end protions and how they operate.

Even better, we are seeing a decent number of GUI sysems coming out now that will allow you to run the "standard" version, or a version written by another participant. I am using BOINC View on a PC and can manage all my computers from that one screen. On the Macintosh there is a new GUI I am testing and so far it looks like it is Ok. Still rough around the edges a bit, but the developers seem enthusiastic about support and a new version is around the corner.

In one sense, especially since I am not too wild about the "official" "look-and-feel" I may primarily use other GUIs instead, and only install the "official" GUI for the purposes of capturing images for the documentation. But then never use them in real life ... :)

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Message 83455 - Posted: 4 Mar 2005, 18:33:56 UTC

Looking at this thread, generates a question: Does this imply that if for whatever reason a WU takes a long tme to calculate (such as our PCs being used for word processing or whatever, which is what we have them for) that the electricity and time we provide doesn't generate any form of credit?

This seems to be a somewhat arrogant approach to clients if true, and may be one of the reasons why there is a reluctance for people to move from classic to boinc.

Bearing in mind that the credit standings is all we get out of this for our efforts.
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Message 83443 - Posted: 4 Mar 2005, 0:53:51 UTC - in response to Message 83439.  

> > If the work unit is complete maybe you can go to your "Transfers" tab
> click on
> > the work unit and select "retry now".
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> Thanks, but I do know how to report the work and retry if the server is busy.
> I was wondering if there was a way for the project to grant a couple days to
> the deadline so everyone could get their work reported.

As I understand it, as long as you report the WU before it can be reassigned and re-crunched, you'll get credit. The deadline is more about when the project assumes work is lost and resends it.

You'll also get credit if there is a quorum and you report within a few days.

You should not assume that all work is lost just because you're past the deadline.
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Message 83439 - Posted: 4 Mar 2005, 0:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 83435.  

> If the work unit is complete maybe you can go to your "Transfers" tab click on
> the work unit and select "retry now".
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Thanks, but I do know how to report the work and retry if the server is busy. I was wondering if there was a way for the project to grant a couple days to the deadline so everyone could get their work reported.

I'm on dial up and connect and disconnect manually. I could sit here and click on "retry" for hours, but I don't have the time. If I was always connected, eventually I might hit a point where the servers are up and I can get in the cue, but the servers have been shut down at the optimal time (at night in California.)

Seems ridiculous to throw away crunched work units because the project has been down so much lately and a deadline has passed.
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Message 83435 - Posted: 4 Mar 2005, 0:27:27 UTC - in response to Message 83424.  

If the work unit is complete maybe you can go to your "Transfers" tab click on the work unit and select "retry now".
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Message 83424 - Posted: 3 Mar 2005, 23:55:46 UTC

Is it possible a couple days can be added to the current deadline for reporting work? I have a bunch of WU's I can't report and will expire tomorrow.
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