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February 22, 2005

The NAS box is holding up to the load well at this point. The data server has stopped dropping connections.
We're a little concerned about running out of unsent workunits so have stopped the assimilator
so that more transitioner cycles go to producing new unsent results.

> I can understand the desire about DEV worring about not enough work to be sent
> out but I also see a dramatic rise in the validation numbers. It would be
> comforting to also see that number decreasing a little also.
>

Yep, everything is way slower than before ATM, especially after the switch
to the new database server.

Maybe the NAS box is running in "safe mode" now :o)

Regards Hans

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I can understand the desire about DEV worring about not enough work to be sent out but I also see a dramatic rise in the validation numbers. It would be comforting to also see that number decreasing a little also.

Ready to send 110,253
In progress 880,132
Waiting for validation 202,059
Waiting to transition 0

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uploading and downloading w/out any problems. it's amazing how good that makes me feel! silly, huh?

rachel

> hopefully this is a sign that things are back on track.

Or not far from it.
Still rather slow, but at least it's all doing what it's meant to.

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Grant
Darwin NT

all of my completed workunits that have not been uploading for the last week uploaded and i was able to download 4 new ones, hopefully this is a sign that things are back on track.

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the most is looking green here

so Good Work to the Berkeley DEVs

btw i have no Probs over the last Days to get new Work.

Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 ©

Hey, I watched the "Waiting for Validation numbers climb from Zero late last week up to 71K, now they're back down to zero. somethings working. I realize people can't upload, and that helps out the validator, but it is working.

Ready to send 235,542
In progress 2,361,888
Waiting for validation 0

tony

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Guys guys guys... come on, why the long faces? That's the beauty of BOINC! One project is down, HEY NO PROBLEMO! your machines just crunch for the other ones. I mean it's not like they will NEVER be back up. Just chill, relax, breathe deep. Surely you not crunching for just SETI? Of course not! So there is no problem!

Feel better? You're welcome! ;-)

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> > If you look around on the Tecnical News page you will see this
> particular
> > piece of hardware referred to in a variety of ways - data server, NAS
> (network
> > attached storage) and ULDL (UpLoad/DownLoad).
> >
> > That last one is the giveaway. ;)
>
> Perhaps this is pure bitching on my part, but I simply don’t have the time to
> go looking over the entire website for the current condition of the Seti
> project evaluating the impact of recent changes to me, the end participant.
> Frequent forum junkies or those who consider themselves knowledgeable enough
> to be a part of the “inner sanctum” might understand a technological cryptic
> remark such as this, but it doesn’t server the majority of the participants
> out there who want to know what’s going on with their current client activity.
> If you disable the ULDL server, you should publish a simple remark stating
> that WU uploads and downloads will be disabled for a while. Follow it up with
> whatever detiails you wish, but spell out the simple stuff first!
>
> Public comments should be tailored towards the basic end user and not towards
> the few hard-core followers out there who vie to piece together the inner
> workings of the Seti project. This will be especially true once Classic is
> disabled and there is a large increase of novice BOINC users. It’s a PR
> issue, but one that I believe that the project team must learn if they are to
> remain a popular distributed computing project.
>
> Look at the vast majority of the comments in the forums here. Most of them
> have to do with the current state of the project as it applies to them. Sure,
> toss a bone to those who are sophisticated enough to follow insider comments,
> but please do so after you speak to the layman!
>
>
>
I feel the same the user has been put at the back of the line. Well I dont know if this is good news but I downloaded a work unit 5 min ago I tried on another computer and couldnt get it to download. I see a little progress.

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> If you look around on the Tecnical News page you will see this particular
> piece of hardware referred to in a variety of ways - data server, NAS (network
> attached storage) and ULDL (UpLoad/DownLoad).
>
> That last one is the giveaway. ;)

Perhaps this is pure bitching on my part, but I simply don’t have the time to go looking over the entire website for the current condition of the Seti project evaluating the impact of recent changes to me, the end participant. Frequent forum junkies or those who consider themselves knowledgeable enough to be a part of the “inner sanctum” might understand a technological cryptic remark such as this, but it doesn’t server the majority of the participants out there who want to know what’s going on with their current client activity. If you disable the ULDL server, you should publish a simple remark stating that WU uploads and downloads will be disabled for a while. Follow it up with whatever detiails you wish, but spell out the simple stuff first!

Public comments should be tailored towards the basic end user and not towards the few hard-core followers out there who vie to piece together the inner workings of the Seti project. This will be especially true once Classic is disabled and there is a large increase of novice BOINC users. It’s a PR issue, but one that I believe that the project team must learn if they are to remain a popular distributed computing project.

Look at the vast majority of the comments in the forums here. Most of them have to do with the current state of the project as it applies to them. Sure, toss a bone to those who are sophisticated enough to follow insider comments, but please do so after you speak to the layman!

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> Yes, but what does it mean to us that the data server is turned off?

It means uploads and downloads don't work. ;)

> Should the scheduler respond and uploads and downloads work?

If you look around on the Tecnical News page you will see this particular piece of hardware referred to in a variety of ways - data server, NAS (network attached storage) and ULDL (UpLoad/DownLoad).

That last one is the giveaway. ;)

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Be lucky

Neil

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February 20, 2005 - 18:45 UTC

The data server NAS box may be OK at this point,
although we have not subjected it to the full production load yet.
We currently have the data server turned off
so that the file deleter can at least
partially clear a large backlog
of workunit and result files that are scheduled for deletion.
This backlog is a hold over problem from when our database server
was on a slow machine.
Validation and assimilation are both currently on.




- David Knittle wrote the following:

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> Yes, but what does it mean to us that the data server is turned off?
>
> Should the scheduler respond and uploads and downloads work?
>
>
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Hi David ,

I am sorry David I don't know the answer to you question

- maybe some one else can answer your question ?




byron

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Yes, but what does it mean to us that the data server is turned off?

Should the scheduler respond and uploads and downloads work?

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February 20, 2005 - 18:45 UTC

The data server NAS box may be OK at this point,
although we have not subjected it to the full production load yet.
We currently have the data server turned off
so that the file deleter can at least
partially clear a large backlog
of workunit and result files that are scheduled for deletion.
This backlog is a hold over problem from when our database server
was on a slow machine.
Validation and assimilation are both currently on.

I have downloaded 3 WU!

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> Durung this stage of up and down servers:
> Has anyone been able to upload and/or download anything?

Just got one through UL, but no report up to now, so it's not in my list :(
DL nothing, niente, nada, niets, nichts, nitschewo, rien...

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Gruesse vom Saenger

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> Durung this stage of up and down servers:
>
> Has anyone been able to upload and/or download anything?
>
>
SETI@home - 2005-02-20 18:32:12 - Started download of 03ja05aa.25979.10865.498562.101
SETI@home - 2005-02-20 18:32:24 - Finished download of 03ja05aa.25979.10865.498562.101

I have gotten downloaded 4 workunits. But still have not been able to upload anything

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Durung this stage of up and down servers:

Has anyone been able to upload and/or download anything?

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OOOPS back to 1/2 up 1/2 down.

data-driven web pages klaatu Running
scheduler kryten Running
feeder kryten Running
file_deleter koloth Running
transitioner1 klaatu Running
transitioner2 klaatu Running
transitioner3 kryten Running
transitioner4 kryten Running
sah_validate koloth Not running
sah_assimilator galileo Not running
sah_splitter galileo Not running
sah_splitter2 milkyway Not running
sah_splitter3 philmor Not running

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