> Wozniak. Did you know that he was the guy who made Arkanoid? It took
> 44 chips, and when it was presented to the company that contracted him, they
> couldn't figure out how he did it! :-D
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Wozniak. that's it !! ___ thanks NA!

sorry to be off the topic ....

no I didn't know that amassing! the kid was a genius -- he (woss) and Steve jobs when they were teenagers , made their only " Blue " Boxes to make their own free calls all over the world. these guys were jokesters , for fun "woss" pretended to be Henry Kissinger , and phoned the Pope in Rome , where it was the middle of the night , and got the Pope out of bed in the middle of night! "Woss" told this story in that 4 hour PBS Documentary "triumphs of the nerds" , now their Billionairs .. oh well ......

gota go have supper ... hey NA , take care , that snow storm out where you live .... looks fearsome on TV .....

again .... sorry to be off the topic ....

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Wozniak. Did you know that he was the guy who made Arkanoid? It took 44 chips, and when it was presented to the company that contracted him, they couldn't figure out how he did it! :-D

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> The only time a client should not preserve its work across an upgrade, is if
> it is a major version change.
>
> You should be able to safely upgrade by installing over the top, or
> uninstalling/reinstalling.
>

Until now, was not able to "upgrade" a m$ 4.53 release down to 4.14 (4.15, 4.16, 4.17) without loosing work, got 4 of them.

But this migration is not the usual way, so the bad is on my side. Normaly, with precaution, the way up and down can be walked.

To be more precise, it was possible to "save" the work, but when starting with the 4.1x client, got a "init ..error", not having kept the logs, due restored from saved boinc folder, but could be reproduced, if important.

Perhaps it's a thingy with the CR at line end

the other 3 so far migrated form 4.16 into 4.17 clients, are working as estimated without lost.

Using prereleases is a higher risk, but a higher gain for the end user.

Keep on!

> The only time a client should not preserve its work across an upgrade, is if
> it is a major version change.
>
> You should be able to safely upgrade by installing over the top, or
> uninstalling/reinstalling.
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Hi Rom

thanks for the info

you must be working __ 24/7 __ when do you get a chance to sleep ? __ you deserve ...3 weeks off with full pay ... I will e mail the boss right know __ ;-) LOL



<A><B>off the topic:

but Rom did you ever get a chance to watch that 4 hour PBS Documentary ? __Triumph of the nerds -- RE: Steve Jobs __ Steve Wosnniak I can't spell his name (Woss) and Bill Gates the early day __ 1980 to 1990 great stuff --- fun to watch ? ? [/b][/b]




sincere very best wishes
Rom get some sleep __ :)

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The only time a client should not preserve its work across an upgrade, is if it is a major version change.

You should be able to safely upgrade by installing over the top, or uninstalling/reinstalling.

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----- Rom
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Hi Byron!

yes we are running the fun in a colorfull way.

The actual client release is 4.18.

In the past, was thingking, fast cruncher (PCs) and the number of them, is the right way to cunch successfully.

Nope, was wrong. It looks like, it's now a question of how fast a client could be upgraded and what can be done to preserve the clients work...

Slowly feeling to old for that.

happy crunching!

ric

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<A><B>Hi ric , it is going to be lots of fun -- next 4 to 7 day LOL ;-) -- Best Wishes -- Happy crunching :) </B>[/url]



<A><B>[Edit}-- ric___ you are correct --Version 4.18 (released 24 Jan 2005)___[/Edit]

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php?dev=1[/url]


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http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=314



<A><B>I am planning to to send out another ten thousand account keys for Einstein@Home in the next day or so. I am not yet sure whether or not we should ask new users to use 4.16 or 4.17. So this thread is very useful to me: please post a short note saying if 4.17 did work for you or if it did not.

I am particularly interested in hearing from Linux and Mac OSX users.

Note: sometime later this week I am going to start restricting the Einstein@home scheduler to only accepting requests from core client versions greater than 4.13. This is because 4.13 clients generate too many downloading errors and trash a lot of results. So if you are still using the BOINC 4.13 core client, please don't wait too long before upgrading!


Bruce Allen</B>[/url]



Hi , ric , going to be lots of fun -- next 4 to 7day LOL ;-)

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> > 10,000 e mails to go out ?

At an other job, we had to inform about 3500 +- users by internal mail, it generated a message to the users screen, no M$ based mailsystem(linkworks).

The action was done by script, it took about 40-50 minutes til the last user on the userlist got his/her message.


...another ten thousand account keys for Einstein@Home in...

Have readen it too, but is that for sure? Could it be just a typo and it should sound like:.. another ten accounts to send..

anyway wishing goodluck!

Well, I am not sure how well it is working ... as a late joiner, well, I don't have too many results.

Worse, it looks like the Mac had 4-5 experience client errors.

So, I am not sure which problems I am haveing or not.

I have updated every machine to 4.16, so; so far so good. If 4.17 fixes something extra for the Mac Let me know and I will install it. ...

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Doin' pretty well all things considered :-)

Over the last few days I've heard a lot of noise about the different versions, but I've been editing some footage so I wasn't running BOINC anyway. I think I've finished off the last clip, so I'm gonna restart my WUs.

Thanks for the 4.17 link.

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> 10,000 e mails - sorry this is a dumb question on my part - but how long for
> 10,000 e mails to go out ?

On our servers here, probably about 2 1/2 hours. They could go a lot faster, or alot slower, depending....

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> Copy from : http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=314
>
> I am planning to to send out another ten thousand account keys for
> Einstein@Home in the next day or so. I am not yet sure whether or not we
> should ask new users to use 4.16 or 4.17. So this thread is very useful to me:
> please post a short note saying if 4.17 did work for you or if it did not.
>
> I am particularly interested in hearing from Linux and Mac OSX users.
>

Version 4.17 is running perfectly on two Linux machines here (Gentoo Gnu/Linux with kernel 2.6.10). :)

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Be lucky

Neil

> I am particularly interested in hearing from Linux and Mac OSX users.
> ...Which is fine by me - I'd love to help out! But could we please get our
> versions in order?
>
> Between the v4.13 for OS X from SETI, v4.17 for Einstein, a supposed v4.6
> release, and the fact that I haven't gotten an invite*, there's no way I can
> join in the debugging process.
>
> *It's actually better if I don't... Won't go into details
>
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Hi NA ,

hey no sweat man , you're doing your best man, that's all a man can do :)

how's it going any way ?

BTW - if you need Boinc 4.17 -- (released 23 Jan 2005)

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php?dev=1



Best wishes

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> 10,000 invites ready to be sent. With my luck I'll drop outside that list
> again. ;)
>
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hi Jord - [Ageless]

Hope you are well , hows it going ?

<A><B> you'll make it man , just keep checking your e mails</B>[/url]

10,000 e mails - sorry this is a dumb question on my part - but how long for 10,000 e mails to go out ?


BTW - if you need Boinc 4.17 -- (released 23 Jan 2005)

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php?dev=1



I upgraded from Boinc 4.16 to 4.17 - successfully - no problems to report

on the following<A><B>-- two ---</B>[/url]Computers:

WXPSP2
Dell Precision , Work Station 650 duel XEON CPU's 2.4GHz - HT -1MB L2Cache
Memory 1GB

I'm sharing my resources on my two computers as follows:

1/2 EAH
1/2 SAH

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10,000 invites ready to be sent. With my luck I'll drop outside that list again. ;)

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I am particularly interested in hearing from Linux and Mac OSX users.
...Which is fine by me - I'd love to help out! But could we please get our versions in order?

Between the v4.13 for OS X from SETI, v4.17 for Einstein, a supposed v4.6 release, and the fact that I haven't gotten an invite*, there's no way I can join in the debugging process.

*It's actually better if I don't... Won't go into details

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Copy from : http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=314

I am planning to to send out another ten thousand account keys for Einstein@Home in the next day or so. I am not yet sure whether or not we should ask new users to use 4.16 or 4.17. So this thread is very useful to me: please post a short note saying if 4.17 did work for you or if it did not.

I am particularly interested in hearing from Linux and Mac OSX users.

Note: sometime later this week I am going to start restricting the Einstein@home scheduler to only accepting requests from core client versions greater than 4.13. This is because 4.13 clients generate too many downloading errors and trash a lot of results. So if you are still using the BOINC 4.13 core client, please don't wait too long before upgrading!

Bruce Allen

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