Posts by Christine&Rusty

1) Message boards : News : Free Speech and SETI@home (Message 1864441)
Posted 29 Apr 2017 by Profile Christine&Rusty
Was passin through there myself, and as you were, making sure everyone's right to this that and most everything else was protected, I became exposed to folks who had a different opinion about how said rights be secured. "They" told me it was a "bunch of hippies from up there (up there?) at *Berkeley". Welcome home Sir Thomas.
*That one took a few years to get straightened out in my tiny Brain Housing Group. (Marine, ya know...)
So, as it goes, I thought everyone knew that SETI was kinda like that "white elephant in the room" that the ill-lustrous "Chancellor of this or that" kinda keeps their back turned towards, skirts conversations about, will go "Huh?" when SETI is mentioned by visitors who's ONLY reason they took the free tour was to find out about SETI......who's the step child now Chancellor ? Or Bill, John, whatever your real name is-everyone knows "Chancellor" is an alias. They still got that free tour don't they?
BUT-and you always know that's coming-BUT, when ET come's rolling to the front door's, yeah, Berkeley all the sudden has a dept. called SETI@HOME.
Kinda like Chicago all the sudden had a baseball team now huh?
So, enough sarcasm, I'm using bandwidth better well spent crunchin than picking on those less fortunate, who will never know the satisfaction of crunching because they were to busy arguing the finer points of simple freedoms.
Which brings me to a request, #3? Could "and/or embarrassment"be added without much lobby'ng? ;)
For those who have never really thought about it much here's something to think about. All of the minds who have the same mindset, crunchin data looking for that spark out their, a genome, a number so long or big it's measured in "flops", we are an example to the other 99.huh% of the world. We, the .1% of the .1% of......I'm not sure how to enumerate those who crunch -vs-the entire rest of humanity, humane or not.
Not understanding what we are doin, but were doin something. We certainly are doing something, crossing every line ever drawn in the sand there is from race to creed and all points in between, everyone has one goal. ET, CERN, prime numbers, malaria, we do that, whatever flavor, without ever rioting. I think it's a pretty cool world we, you and I, live in. That's doin something.
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : Computer "reset" (Message 1833919)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Christine&Rusty
I have a somewhat similar rig, ID: 7799625 , quad core/Islands GPU card, it was somewhat hard to get right. First I used the "Computer Preference's" tool under the "Options" part on the BOINC Manager and only let it run 95% to keep it from going over the temp that kicked it off. I then noticed that I didn't have enough power going to it so I put a 500 watt power supply in it and re-adjusted the percentage until I got it to where it wouldn't reset. I also installed the AMD APP that was right for it-not sure if that influenced it or not. Cooling seems harder to control when the power is not high enough (enough for everything) on the quad core. Cooling wise I run it 98% on all 4 cores and the temp varies about a degree where as it was fluctuating 9 to 11 degrees and resetting about every ten minutes from lack of wattage. Might be something to consider.
3) Questions and Answers : Windows : Start from scratch-OR-run it like this? (Message 1832103)
Posted 24 Nov 2016 by Profile Christine&Rusty
Go to, Geforce, Geforce 9 series, 9800 GT, Windows 7 x64, English and all.

I'd go for 341.44 then. But anything below that should be all right as well.

Yes, checked the family (9) and I figured after reading all the rest of the newer ones, and staying with the card family-mainly security updates for big $$ different card. That part is working fine! They had added support for 3D and DirectX 10 and 11 which was hard to make work in the 337.xx drivers. It is showing DX 10, CUDA, PhysX and Direct Compute 4.0. The warning popped up for GPU-Z that said the AMD driver part was causing a no show on Open CL, and the processor is a 1.2 and 2.0 capable.
The AMD tool did not take out the AMD part, DDU failed too, so I'm going to tinker on it and re-run it through the Intel site and get the board updates again. I am glad I decided to write everything down I did. Maybe simple for some folks to do from memory but life gets hectic and I started this one how long ago? The one just like it will be easy to set up after this, or a worse nightmare. Even with the right driver it still seems to want to run the Q965/Q963 Express Chipset, with PhysX showing,DX9.0 and 8 Unified shaders, driver version 64-this might be worth the dummy plug trick!!!! Or just another monitor, got enough of them.
I do appreciate the help, I gave up on this once because it was hard to figure out how to make it work when in reality it was not, I just made it harder than it was. I'll keep a post back on what happened, if it smoked & sparked or really blew and the color of the flame afterwards.... ;) Gotta love a good melt down.
*Afterthought-the AMD Cl in the processor might be somehow caused by the driver the Q965/Q963 is using in part anyway, from the FirePro, I have to look back through the papers but that set of numbers seems familiar.
4) Questions and Answers : Windows : Start from scratch-OR-run it like this? (Message 1832063)
Posted 23 Nov 2016 by Profile Christine&Rusty
Thank you, that really simplified things for me. Much better than looking at computers trying to find my combination-or close-and going from there. "Best guess" did not get us to the moon,(thats a whole other thread I'm guessing)oh, and back too, at least once. The ATI/AMD seems easy compared the Nvidia/CUDA. I can see where some of the drivers-by the number- could actually almost run the other, hap-hazardly and possibly poorly, but still adapt, improvise and overheat. There seems to be a lot of the same archatecture in the processors. ? Like I said, a little inept......
I had a thermal shut down from the processor due to the AMD stuff-I think-that was at the top of the list of questions. To put it like a friend said "That ain't no Athlon chuckles". I'm going to do a clean install of the 341.61 or as close under as I can get, I don't think Quadro stuff worked, and see if that straightens that part out and see about maybe running the AMD clean up one more time, if not just manually go and remove things. I believe it was the FirePro card and the software I used that planted the

"11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1214.3 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3))"

stuff in it and they do conflict with this. If there's anyone who ever said I've seen it all, here's the one you might not have.
All in all it is a learning experiance, not "was", "is".

5) Questions and Answers : Windows : Start from scratch-OR-run it like this? (Message 1831865)
Posted 22 Nov 2016 by Profile Christine&Rusty
I ran a benchmark that was suggested by afriend and got this:

11/21/2016 9:18:53 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks
11/21/2016 9:18:54 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
11/21/2016 9:19:24 PM | | FP benchmark ran only 0.078001 sec; ignoring
11/21/2016 9:19:26 PM | | Resuming computation
11/21/2016 10:45:52 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks
11/21/2016 10:45:53 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
11/21/2016 10:46:23 PM | | FP benchmark ran only 0.078001 sec; ignoring
11/21/2016 10:46:24 PM | | Resuming computation

I've never seen one NOT bench, or one that a timing that it would ignore.
The question now is did an earlier install of ATI GPU drivers and managers install something in for an AMD-best guess-&/OR-assumption due to "family, model, stepping" numbers? "6, 15, 2" seem to come to mind as far back as some early Celeron/Athlon processors and the FirePro 3D card did have a lot of stuff that needed installed. I used the unistaller, and cleaned up after myself and rebooted after each uninstall, and subsequent re-install.
Have never seen an ignored CPU Benchmark before.
The plot thickens, I have an identical match to this one ready to go online Wensday-without the days of trying the ATI small change*! Is that "minium driver*" thing something that is going to put alot of PC's out of SETI business or is he joking? I'v started putting my Pentium II and olders (The AST just won't do math, just wants to sit in the sun-go figure) to work on other projects, the one's with 2-15 avg. credit days, they could put me in a whole new realm. A 2011 is new around here ;)Never heard of it......Minium driver must be a whole new thread.
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : Start from scratch-OR-run it like this? (Message 1831842)
Posted 22 Nov 2016 by Profile Christine&Rusty
Thanx AMDave, that makes sense since it was plastered with everything and the same, except CUDA23. Thank you.
(BUT, it looks really menacing in "RED").
I had read till my eyes were bleeding different posts, even did a search but I think I did it before that post.
My 9800 GT 1 gig runs fine-not like it did before the 8's came along, but still good enough for me-I don't have my computers hidden if anybody wants to look-I did this to try to find the right driver for a GT 740.
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Start from scratch-OR-run it like this? (Message 1831800)
Posted 21 Nov 2016 by Profile Christine&Rusty
First off, I am a little inept at anything much past putting things together and make them run "fairly well", 2nd, almost everything I have is brought back from near death, or procured from those that are dead except the wife's, she bought it and built it 8 years ago. 3rd, I can't afford $xxx.xx cards and processors. With that heres the problem:
I'm resurecting an "older" Intel PC that had an ATI X1300 video card in it. It has a Intel dual core processor. I thought I might throw an AMD FirePro 256 mb card in it and get a little more out of it but it failed. Actually "epic fail" was more like it. Older small cards are exactly that, old and small and don't forget, slow and hard to find the exact right drivers for.
Sans pulling out what little hair I have left I put a nVidia 9500 GT 1gig DDR2 in it and left it alone after getting the stuff to make it run. Long story short I checked the log file to see why things looked to be running way to long. Does anyone see any thing wrong down around the processor lines?

11/20/2016 9:11:47 PM | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_x86_64
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Running under account Rusty&Chris
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9500 GT (driver version 341.95, CUDA version 6.5, compute capability 1.1, 1024MB, 964MB available, 149 GFLOPS peak)
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9500 GT (driver version 341.95, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 1024MB, 964MB available, 149 GFLOPS peak)
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1214.3 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3))
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 78712))
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version, device version OpenCL 2.0 (Build 99))
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Host name: CH-46_CHINOOK
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz [Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 2]
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 syscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Memory: 3.93 GB physical, 11.92 GB virtual
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Disk: 149.04 GB total, 86.39 GB free
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Local time is UTC -8 hours
11/20/2016 9:12:24 PM | SETI@home | URL; Computer ID 8129748; resource share 200
11/20/2016 9:12:24 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 02-Nov-2016 10:43:08)

It really is a Core Two 6400 @2.13. The question is "what would you do"? Start over with a clean install of SETI and the 341.95 driver? I keep getting

11/21/2016 8:40:25 AM | SETI@home | Message from server: NVIDIA GPU: Upgrade to the latest driver to process tasks using your computer's GPU

-in red-but I can't get anything farther up the line to go with it, it will not install and reverts to 341.95. If anything I feel like pushing that "Reset Project" and calling it a day, but I still might have a conflict with the processors. I had re-installed BOINC after the change in video cards. I never installed anything processor specific with AMD on it that I know of.
Thanks in advance, and if all else fails, this might provide a good laugh somewhere....... :)
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Moore's Law illustrated (Message 1827637)
Posted 31 Oct 2016 by Profile Christine&Rusty
I wish that the Moore's Law could also be applied to software development.
There has been many improvements over time but very slowly.
What's complicate it more is of course all the so called computer languages that is supposed to solve software developers "problem".

"Engelbart's Law" should really mean more than just "getting better at getting better", but then software would write itself at the thought of having an original thought and we would more probably become extinct-except living just to stay up all night eating Hostess Bakery products and drinking Mt. Few while learning by trial and error a programing language that I will probably use as often as I use chemistry 090....I can't believe I said that....Oh, "Engelbart's Law"....he was the mouse man from Portland Oregon or late (deceased recently). His history, even wiki's short version, says if there is an easier way to do something, find it! Never really wanted much more than to make the world a nicer place, and in doing so we have lost our skill's at the keyboard to the right click of a mouse.
Took a look for the first time in a long time at the progression of things. I have a 30 pin SIMM still sitting in the pile but am not sure how to add a pic of it in the post, a Panasonic at that, but it is probably the only one I have-for me they were a bit spendy at the time. Anybody needs it let me know. ;) I'll send it on.
9) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Getting wu's that run up to 20.946% and stall (Message 1603389)
Posted 21 Nov 2014 by Profile Christine&Rusty
I've been getting a lot of these and each group stalls at a different % in each group. Currently am working on this one (opencl_ati5_cat132) and decided to use the "task_debug" thing. Yeah, here again, like I know what I am doing, right. but it did go down through and check each work unit and check them all with some results like this:
    11/20/2014 5:18:58 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, task_debug
    11/20/2014 5:26:09 PM | SETI@home | [task] task_state=QUIT_PENDING for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.90_0 from request_exit()
    11/20/2014 5:26:10 PM | SETI@home | [task] Process for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.90_0 exited, exit code 0, task state 8
    11/20/2014 5:26:10 PM | SETI@home | [task] task_state=UNINITIALIZED for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.90_0 from handle_exited_app
    11/20/2014 5:26:10 PM | SETI@home | [task] task_state=EXECUTING for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.12_0 from start
    11/20/2014 5:30:17 PM | SETI@home | task 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.12_0 suspended by user
    11/20/2014 5:30:18 PM | SETI@home | [task] task_state=QUIT_PENDING for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.12_0 from request_exit()
    11/20/2014 5:30:34 PM | SETI@home | [task] quit request timed out, killing task 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.12_0
    11/20/2014 5:30:35 PM | SETI@home | [task] Process for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.12_0 exited, exit code 0, task state 8
    11/20/2014 5:30:35 PM | SETI@home | [task] task_state=UNINITIALIZED for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.12_0 from handle_exited_app
    11/20/2014 5:30:35 PM | SETI@home | [task] task_state=EXECUTING for 13oc08ab.11968.130514.438086664199.12.90_0 from start

So, remember, like I really know what I am doing, I don't want to just abort them like I did 83 or less others without letting some one know. The computer's ID# is 7419064. This is my Astropulse eating and loving them, the hardest working PC (but not as fast as ID# 7284568), then started coming strange one's I had not seen, "sse" "see3" some with "nocal_100" or something like that and I see some go and some fail/error, computation error, etc. I have been trying to run 2 screens and put SETI on one and Netflix on the big screen but even with hydravision I have not quiet yet got it-I have to do it myself to learn how instead of being told it's "this easy" so bear with me. That's all I guess. Can't fix it, not a quitter, but wasted GPU time is just that-unless it helps solve a problem. And yes, everything is up to date . It's updated into next week sometime, and yes, it's probably a little old, but not near as old as ID #'s 7096043 & 7095613.
Maybe somebody out there knows who to forward this to or it has already been talked about and I flat just missed it looking for other stuff.
Thanks a lot
Happy Hunting
Rusty and Christine

10) Message boards : News : Astropulse Offline (Message 1519960)
Posted 22 May 2014 by Profile Christine&Rusty
They were just resends of tasks that are already in the system from before AP production ceased. ;-)

OK, thanks, didn't think about it that way.
11) Message boards : News : Astropulse Offline (Message 1483165)
Posted 1 Mar 2014 by Profile Christine&Rusty
Some where around 2-13/2-14 my wife's computer got hit with 3 pairs of the Astropulse 6's in a daily batch, like all at once, doing two at a time while the GPU was doing the ATI open cl in between, they went without a hitch, about 25 or so hour a piece turn around times and uploaded just fine. Am I in the right universe or wrong year? or did I miss something? New guy so be easy on me and my calculator batteries are dead. ;)

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