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21) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354491)
Posted 44 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
Having both agreed to this, we have to also agree that your belief that this piece of paper cannot pay taxes should also work in the reverse.

And it does. It simply sits in a safe.

The piece of paper should also be unable to pay shareholders, CEO's, board members, employees and various suppliers, contractors, etc...
But somehow, it does. The piece of paper performs the very act you say is impossible.

The piece of paper does none of those things. Humans do them.

And you were so close to understanding, but you got caught not understanding what a corporation is. A corporation is a piece of paper with writing and some official stamps upon it. It sits inanimate in a safe. Its purpose is to memorialize a fiduciary duty between humans. One of the official stamps upon it authorizes, or grants license, from the government - of the people, by the people, for the people (sounds like humans) - to the fiduciary duty or trust, to use a name and conduct business with a limitation on liability to the humans owed the fiduciary duty. From there humans do it as they are the only things on the planet capable of paying taxes. Well at least until the dolphins get a seat at the UN.



Corporations are not a piece of paper. The paper is simply the medium on which the rules of incorporation are written.
It's this line of thinking that allows the corporate pigs to escape responsibility for their acts of aggression toward the environment, government and the people.

This line of escaping responsibility is the result of selfish and greedy humans writing into law the ability to protect themselves from being held accountable for their own actions.

As you've stated here, humans do indeed control what happens as a corporation.
The corporation is a human invention. The corporation is a business model and subject to human rules.
If those human rules dictate that corporations will pay high taxes, then damn it, corporations will pay high taxes.

Just as they did before Reagan. Just as the wealthy pampered elites did before Reagan.
22) Message boards : Politics : Hey World, We Gots Da Biggest, Best, and Most Bombs. Time To PAY UP. (Message 1354478)
Posted 44 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
LOL B&ENB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

It seems that the US has had "issues" with every country on Earth at some point.
I don't recall seeing Iceland on the list but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

So, the rest of the world owes you something for spending more on weapons of destruction and death than you do on everything thing else in your federal budget?

No one loves your weapons and those who've become ensnared inside the trap of your "tax dollars" will never get out of debt due to the terms of borrowing.

The world owes you nothing. Get real.
23) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354476)
Posted 44 days ago by Profile Robert Waite


I have yet to see a piece of paper pay a tax. It would be a neat trick for it to do so. Heck I have never seen one even open a checking account.



The problem one encounters when trying to discuss issues like this with people like you Gary, is everything you say is twisted around itself so tightly that it becomes too much a bother to even try to understand.

I'll try just a little with this one comment of yours.

The piece of paper you refer to is in fact a multi billion dollar self contained organization, with no public accountability for what goes on inside it's boardroom.
Having both agreed to this, we have to also agree that your belief that this piece of paper cannot pay taxes should also work in the reverse.
The piece of paper should also be unable to pay shareholders, CEO's, board members, employees and various suppliers, contractors, etc...
But somehow, it does. The piece of paper performs the very act you say is impossible.
Oh, and how does this piece of paper make most of these payments you ask?

Good question. It sends a cheque.
Yes. Another impossibility happening right before your eyes.

While it seems you are very wrong about the ability of the piece of paper to cut cheques or pay taxes. I encourage you to keep working on your argument until it holds water.
Good luck with that.
24) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354434)
Posted 44 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
LOL
I don't know about the parliamentary system being the best Glenn.
We have a very right wing conservative government presently in power here in Canada.
They support Big Oil and deny global warming while making plans for arctic shipping lanes which will be open due to the loss of ice.
They pulled out of the Kyoto Accord, which was signed by the previous governing Liberal Party.
They've just pulled out of the UN desertification talks which is another way of denying global warming.
Many members of the federal cabinet are known to be religious, speaking in tongues fanatics and certain religious groups have direct access clearance to the office of the Prime Minister, which is astounding. That level of access is usually reserved for CEO's and other big shots with pockets full of money.
They are buying weapons like crazed warlords.

All this, in a parliamentary system where they received 38% of the vote in the last federal election which gave them a majority of seats.

25) Message boards : Cafe SETI : arghhhhhhhhhhh. (Message 1354271)
Posted 44 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
So you got laid by JJ?
A real gentleman would keep that locked in the vault as a prized and pleasant memory.
Why do you have to spout it to the world to such a degree that you are tossed out of so many sites?
Is there nothing you can be trusted to keep between two people?
26) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354269)
Posted 44 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
Stop groaning about your tax burden while supporting tax cuts to the corporate pigs and the pampered wealthy elites.


The Pigs and Pampered are The Takers/Entitlement Vacuumers/Grant Eaters/Aid Addicts/Bacon Lovers and Other Peace Prize Pitiful Voters/Takers Of US Dough of The USA. This would include Foreign Peoples and Countries Slopping at The US Taxpayer Trough.

Time For The USA to Collect Protection Monies from The Protected.

Oink. Follow Da Bacon.

Bound For It.


The Takers are Big Oil, General Electric and every other corporate entity that actually receives tax subsidies from the public teet.

Entitlement Vacuumers are the same group.

Grants are such a small portion that you are stretching the limits to try and make a case.

Aid addicts are your corporate farms and equipment makers who actually receive the "so called" foriegn aid.

The rest of this post is nonsense.
27) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354266)
Posted 44 days ago by Profile Robert Waite

Corporations don't pay tax. Never have, never will. The people who buy stuff from corporations pay tax.


I am tired of hearing that line Gary. That's like saying citizens don't pay taxes because they receive their income from an employer who must pay them enough to allow them to afford taxes.

If corporations don't pay taxes, why do the selfish bastards keep lobbying to drive their tax contributions down?
Why do they move to tax havens? Why do they move their head office to Dubai?

Mark is making squeaking noises about his tax burden, which, before Reagan started his war on working people, was a much smaller percentage of total government revenue. He, and everyone else who isn't in the high income bracket, pays more because the corporate pigs and the pampered wealthy elites pay less.
28) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354199)
Posted 45 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
Stop groaning about your tax burden while supporting tax cuts to the corporate pigs and the pampered wealthy elites. SHEESH

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29) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354189)
Posted 45 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
Mark, you know that isn't true by any stretch of the imagination, so why do you cling to it?
The polling stations aren't just wide open to whomever wants to walk in and cast a ballot.

Rightists have been blathering about voter fraud for years, yet there are never more than a couple of instances every election. It's not a factor in any outcomes.
Hell, most of the voter fraud I've heard of is attributed to republican voters like that horrible woman Ann Coulter.
30) Message boards : Cafe SETI : There might be reasons....... (Message 1354170)
Posted 45 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhTVSatyN90
31) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354167)
Posted 45 days ago by Profile Robert Waite

It's reported than more than 50 BILLION dollars will be required to support the illegals that voted for Obama and his amnesty shall require.




"Illegals" are allowed to vote in the US?
I'm bringing every lefty I can find and we're voting in the next US federal election.

32) Message boards : Cafe SETI : And I suppose you really do not know. (Message 1353823)
Posted 46 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
These posts are getting very Norman-like.
33) Message boards : Politics : Carlin. (Message 1350797)
Posted 56 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
When one lives in Canada, everything below the 49th is south.
34) Message boards : Politics : Carlin. (Message 1350619)
Posted 57 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
If I can survive our Canadian Prime Minister with his version of Christiofascist militaristic corporate rule, I'm pretty sure that getting through Obama will be a piece of cake for those of you dreaming of a rightist insurrection down south.
35) Message boards : Politics : Carlin. (Message 1350402)
Posted 58 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
Teabaggers are so cute when they get to sputtering their crazed nonsense.

Blah Blah Blah shoot the Mexicans
Blah Blah Blah we righties are gonna rise up in a mass insurrection.
Blah Blah Blah the election was stolen
Blah Blah Blah I really love you other crazy righties man

You never cease to brighten my day when you start raving.
I can see the foamy spittle forming in the corners of your mouth :)
36) Message boards : Politics : The Night Watchman (Message 1350401)
Posted 58 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
Corporations Do Indeed Suck.

But, What A Way For The Little Guy To MAKE A PILE.

Go Long, Short, Options, Futures, Etc. Etc. Etc.

Oh Yeah. A Pile Of Frakking Mooooo-La.

Haven't Joined In? Pitiful.

There Is Always Dat Guv Job.

Wall Street Corporate Bacon IS MUCH MORE TASTY.

Yum.

Bound For It.


How much does the average Joe have available to risk in the casino known as the stock market?
That's right, bugger all.
Even if someone has $10,000 to play with and they actually win the crap shoot and double their money. What are they going to do with $20,000? Retire? LOL
So, they risk it all again and somehow come up with the same good luck to double their money once more.
Are they set for life with $40,000. Of course not.
Joe Blow's luck then runs out and he's lost it all... of course his friggin' broker has pocketed a share of Joe's money with every transaction, so at least he's happy as he plays with other people's money.

The stock market is the biggest suckers game since three card monte.

37) Message boards : Politics : The Night Watchman (Message 1350243)
Posted 58 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
http://www.examiner.com/article/don-t-blame-the-president-who-you-should-really-blame-for-rising-gas-prices

Here you go Mark
38) Message boards : Politics : The Night Watchman (Message 1350236)
Posted 58 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
"Government is the shadow cast by business over society" - John Dewey

The corporatists have spent billions of dollars toward propaganda trying to focus the blame onto governments.
It seems to have worked on many of you.

Yes, governments set regulations. But. we've allowed the pampered greedy wealthy elites and the corporate sector the chance to control individual members of government with massive campaign contributions.
The US is a business controlled society.
Be angry with the corporations and get even by supporting the move to finance political campaigns with public money. Take away the opportunity to corrupt government by use of massive contributions from private sources.
39) Message boards : Politics : The Night Watchman (Message 1350036)
Posted 58 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
I always laugh out loud when extreme right government haters claim they have the inside story because they spent their lives in the public service.
If that's true, they are now sucking at the public service pension teet while talking shite about the structure that allowed them to make a living.

Teabaggers need to be dipped in boiling water.
40) Message boards : Politics : Colored glasses (Message 1347514)
Posted 66 days ago by Profile Robert Waite
Does that mean my swirly X-ray glasses make me look naked?


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