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1) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Origin of life? (Message 1411254)
Posted 353 days ago by Profile bluealien

Logically our universe isn't infinite, - Olbers paradox.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers'_paradox[/url]


That said, your original point still stands 13 billion years is no small amount of time.
2) Message boards : SETI@home Science : DNA data encoding> Message of life? (Message 1379825)
Posted 438 days ago by Profile bluealien
Bill, that's what started me thinking about DNA as having coding in it.

Looks like I am not alone.

I was looking at it more like there could be a chance something could be there kinda thing not as a 'seeding event'.

If you think of it like an odds game, we have already done this:used coding to put information on DNA.

Then if a more advanced civilization existed before us, chance is they could of completed a similar project.

Say a super nova event wiped out half a star system and sent parts of that DNA hurtling into our solar system billions of years ago.

Then we retain small fragments of grandpa Alteron's 60th birthday message.

btw, i don't think this is scary..coding to the DNA. its just another form of coding... SETI GEEKS BEHOLD.. BACTERIA HARDRIVES!!!










3) Message boards : SETI@home Science : DNA data encoding> Message of life? (Message 1333505)
Posted 568 days ago by Profile bluealien


We are always looking out, but I found it a novel idea to look inwards to DNA.


4) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Fossils in a newly fallen meteorite? (Message 1333503)
Posted 568 days ago by Profile bluealien
Theoretically Panspermia is the right track.

Time is good for the development of life it gives us billions of years for RNA and DNA to form.

Multiple solar systems, suns, elements, and god knows what else to mix and mutate the soup to where DNA is today.

Lets not be naive, the story of science is one of surprise, just imagine looking into a microscope the first time.

However as Richard Dawkins correctly asserts, until we know and can prove that life did not form on earth it is just conjecture. It may well be that life formed here... we don't know yet.

If we do find life to have formed somewhere else, then it will become like a detective story tracing the clues to new systems (if we ever get that far)










5) Message boards : SETI@home Science : DNA data encoding> Message of life? (Message 1332459)
Posted 571 days ago by Profile bluealien



http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci-tech/breakthrough-in-storing-700-terabytes-of-data-in-1-gram-of-dna-20130124-2d89q.html

I was reading this and I have spent the last two weeks going over possible ideas to do with this.

So first of all say in the future we give usb harddrives away and then start putting all our data..in ourselves, in the DNA of ourselves or maybe in a bacteria that lives in only us.

That is all our information drivers licence etc is all encoded in us..and only us. Not only that so is your family photos and your life story.

Say you go a step further say you make a video about yourself..Hi my name is Tim i live in 2013 etc etc. and you put that in your DNA encoded and leave it there.

Then the next generation reads the DNA from there grandfather and grandmother in your DNA. Say this goes further say 10 generations later there are whole families with the history of a people in encoded in your DNA.

Ok..why is this in the SETI@home science section.

Well say the human race as we know it nearly dies out but a couple of mutants live on and evolve into something else millions of years in the future.. Maybe we mutate into a hamster like creature.

In the hamster is our story, encoded in its DNA. Or maybe aliens could just use bacteria as data storage devices.. maybe we should look into if we can find actual encoded data in DNA.



6) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Search humanoids based on silicon. (Message 1267886)
Posted 748 days ago by Profile bluealien
Fascinating conversation.

Silicates are worth thinking about.


In simplified form, the clay hypothesis runs as follows: Clays form naturally from silicates in solution. Clay crystals, as other crystals, preserve their external formal arrangement as they grow, snap and grow further. Masses of clay crystals of a particular external form may happen to affect their environment in ways which affect their chances of further replication — for example, a 'stickier' clay crystal is more likely to silt a stream bed, creating an environment conducive to further sedimentation. It is conceivable that such effects could extend to the creation of flat areas likely to be exposed to air, dry and turn to wind-borne dust, which could fall at random in other streams. Thus by simple, inorganic, physical processes, a selection environment might exist for the reproduction of clay crystals of the 'stickier' shape.
There follows a process of natural selection for clay crystals which trap certain forms of molecules to their surfaces (those which enhance their replication potential). Quite complex proto-organic molecules can be catalysed by the surface properties of silicates. The final step occurs when these complex molecules perform a 'Genetic Takeover' from their clay 'vehicle', becoming an independent locus of replication - an evolutionary moment that might be understood as the first exaptation.
Despite its frequent citation as a useful model of the kind of process that might have been involved in the prehistory of DNA, the 'clay hypothesis' of abiogenesis has not been widely accepted. As it was current and fashionable at that time, Richard Dawkins used it as the example model of abiogenesis in his 1986 book The Blind Watchmaker.



The odds of crystals being all over the universe is very high.

However this adds yet more numbers on the Fermi paradox, and may mean organic life is even more rarer than we thought.

What I mean is, what if it take 100 million years for a lump of clay to spit out a simple replicating carbon based something.

Then of course it has to be a a system that has silicone and carbon.

Then it has to be in the right region from the sun etc.

It opens many more questions but I think its plausible.


7) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFOs hunters and Stanton Friedman (Message 1253914)
Posted 783 days ago by Profile bluealien


The human imagination is a wonderful thing.

The sense of mystery of something unknown is part of who we are.

UFO and aliens are the ultimate storytelling device.

Modern religion has a copyright on their particular gods.

Aliens have created an open source story telling device.

Nobody can beat the "i met a god (alien) story"

Aliens and UFO fit in with our scientific secular society.

UFO hunters look for "evidence", people "want to believe".

It is all strangely familiar territory.

Some religions have already incorporated aliens into them like Scientology.


The cool thing is I can "believe" in aliens but I don't have to do anything.

All I have to do is visit a few you tube videos and know a few basics stories like the phoenix lights and about O'hare airport sightings.

I don't have to go to church or pray, or wear some dumb thing around my neck, or believe in some son of god who was nailed to a cross.

I just have to think that some blurry video on you tube is real.














8) Message boards : SETI@home Science : If a real signal is found... (Message 1241051)
Posted 810 days ago by Profile bluealien
The question is something of a paradox.

If a signal is received and then deleted by mysterious men in black then we never know of a signal

ergo because we can never prove there was such a signal, there is nothing science nor the scientific community can ever do to argue there ever was one.

If we know who the mysterious men are, then they are not so mysterious and we would have the signal.


For proof that signals do get reported then look at the wow signal, if these theories of signal interruption where true then I would imagine the wow signal should of disappeared not long after the wow signal came through.









9) Message boards : SETI@home Science : So what does these three bars that highlight green at the top tell me? (Message 1236844)
Posted 819 days ago by Profile bluealien
lol, I will save my probe for LATER!
10) Message boards : SETI@home Science : So what does these three bars that highlight green at the top tell me? (Message 1234961)
Posted 823 days ago by Profile bluealien
Yea but I really love the screen saver.. it makes me happy.

I like the feeling like I am Jodie Foster receiving a message on my deskstop

You can't hold that against me can you? : )

11) Message boards : SETI@home Science : So what does these three bars that highlight green at the top tell me? (Message 1234429)
Posted 824 days ago by Profile bluealien
Today I had a triplet that was firmly in the green, this triplet was very strong.

I got pretty excited it seemed to defiantly be 'something'.
12) Message boards : SETI@home Science : So what does these three bars that highlight green at the top tell me? (Message 1230463)
Posted 834 days ago by Profile bluealien
So it is common but nobody has an explanation for it.

Suggestions for what it is?


13) Message boards : SETI@home Science : So what does these three bars that highlight green at the top tell me? (Message 1229488)
Posted 836 days ago by Profile bluealien
I was looking tonight and once again I had these same green peaks or triplets in my results.

It happens so often and for so many different signals it seems a little odd.

I am thinking it is not interference but maybe a signature of something natural.
14) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Why are we just listening? Not transmitting? (Message 1229027)
Posted 837 days ago by Profile bluealien
Des,

I think what SETI is doing is very good, I am just putting the idea of transmitting up here for consideration..that's all.

I am not even sure how to start implementing the idea of transmitting.

If I had a couple of spare billions I would gladly put up the money to start.

However I am just a simple peasant.






15) Message boards : SETI@home Science : SETI science update (Message 1228615)
Posted 838 days ago by Profile bluealien

I wonder how much energy is used crunching all that data.

By the time the seti@home project is finished we would have put enough greenhouse gases into the atmosphere to guarantee that once we hear something we will be to screwed down here on earth to do anything about answering.


; )

16) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Why are we just listening? Not transmitting? (Message 1228581)
Posted 838 days ago by Profile bluealien
now assume you are dialing a phone here on earth and want to call a specific person but you don't know their phone number. You also don't know when they aren't home to answer the phone. You also don't know if they want to actually talk to you. Oh and any reply that this other person might want to make to you would take at least 12 years for a response. Now start dialing


We are not dialling a specific person..we are dialling all life forms, that's everyone in the gawd damn phone book.

Yes we don't know when they are home, we are phishing for life.

We just want to know if there is life out there, if they don't want to talk we will never know, if they are intelligent they will understand our need to know we are not alone.

12 years is nothing, to find out that there is life in the universe with radio signals.. that's worth waiting thousands of years for.







17) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Why are we just listening? Not transmitting? (Message 1228579)
Posted 838 days ago by Profile bluealien
We will all be dead by the time we get a response, if we even use radio waves by the time their message reaches us.



The pyramids still inspire wonder, yet none of the people who built them are still alive.

Our signals that we should send, are a cosmic rolling of the dice our time upon this earth may end up to be a triumph or a disaster.

Either way its a good idea to hedge our bets and send a few signals anyways.

Where should we send the signals? Well in many directions as possible and as frequently as we can.


18) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Why are we just listening? Not transmitting? (Message 1227735)
Posted 840 days ago by Profile bluealien


Our civilisation discovered radio signals, and has deducted that if there are ETC's our there then they most probably have radio signals too.

We are also expecting that these Aliens are very much like us, if not identical.

However in order to find our identical twin, we are looking for a 'transmission'.

This is where our plan falls apart, because we are sending no transmissions just listening for them.

Because we are using this twin model, to find life in the universe we may be missing some vital points.

If a civilisation really where far beyond our capacity, then they would not be identical to us and therefore generally not use or have radio signals.

Philosophically speaking, expecting life to be identical to us would be somewhat impossible.

19) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Mars Exploration (Message 1225652)
Posted 844 days ago by Profile bluealien



A manned mission to Mars is well past its due date.

Most of the decent science fiction writers have us on Mars, living there setting up small communities and even migrating there.

It took many years to realise Jules Verne's From earth to the moon and maybe even longer to realise some of Philip.K.Dicks and others imaginings of settlements on Mars.


I would defiantly disagree with the hypotheses that a manned mission to Mars is not feasible.

The odds I feel will be overcome, maybe not by America but China.







20) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Bracewell probes (Message 1225252)
Posted 845 days ago by Profile bluealien

That is interesting about Duncan Lunan, especially about Long delayed echo signals.

Looks like the seti league have discussed this before

http://www.setileague.org/editor/lde.htm


If the probes could have the possibility of being here for billions of years, they could be anywhere in our solar system.


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