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21) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762435)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
For now I provided "full-sync" build (see link above). It resembles iGPU build that uses full-sync too but mostly for CPU time reduction purposes.

Try that build, see how it respond on N and sbs changes and report here. It will provide additional info.

So you ask me to try MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_APU_r3366_sync on:
AMD Radeon HD 6570 - Catalyst 11.12 - Windows XP

Under BOINC?
In "production server" (here, at SETI@home) or at Beta?

Or in offline test?
Which WUs to use for SETI@home v8 offline test?

(I now use MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3330 at default)
22) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762417)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
Я сейчас над новым билдом работаю - будет переключаться для слабых видюх в щадящий режим так сказать.

(Raistmer: "I am now working on a new build - will be switching for the weak GPUs in "gentle mode" so to speak.")

Will this only amend -period_iterations_num (different for different GPUs) or will be some more?

Even with -period_iterations_num 900 I still feel big mouse lag every few minutes (for ~10 seconds) if the task is Not VHAR (VHAR is OK even on default 50)
(so it's kernel that runs only on Non-VHAR tasks)

AMD Radeon HD 6570 - Catalyst 11.12 - Windows XP
23) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762416)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
после прописания команд стало несколько медленнее

Если толъко "несколько" (<5%) - это известно:

From ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_ATI.txt (written by Raistmer and others)
-period_iterations_num N : Splits single PulseFind kernel call to N calls for longest PulseFind calls. Can be used to reduce GUI lags or to prevent driver restarts. Can affect performance. Experimentation required. The default value for v6/v7/v8 tasks is N=20. N should be positive integer.


My note:
The default value for new apps seem to be N=50
24) Message boards : Number crunching : How to add stats to a signature (Message 1762380)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
That's odd. I see them. Anyone else?

Well ... I'M STUPID

I used two different browsers, both based on Chromium (35 & 40)
Now I tried again in the "bad" version - and I see the same as before (img - NO, new tab - Yes)

At first I was thinking in uBlock Origin I have some bad filter in "My filters" (but no, nothing there for boincstats (only 12 filters, so easy to check))
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm


So I used Ctrl+Shift+N (to open "incognito window" where no extensions run) and Copy/Pasted:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79012

And I see the boincstats images (when no extensions run)

I started enabling "Allow in incognito" for one extension at a time:
uBlock Origin
Tampermonkey
Privacy Badger
HTTPS Everywhere
(I have some 6-7 more but they are irrelevant (no need to test them) - WOT, Popchrom, Lazarus: Form Recovery, IP Domain Country Flag, Forecastfox, Font Rendering Enhancer, FastestTube)

Both browsers have almost the same extensions.


The culprit is the Privacy Badger
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp

Privacy Badger is self-learning extension so no wonder it have different behaviour on 2 browsers - depends how much and which pages/sites did you visit.
I checked that boincstats.com is automatically blocked by Privacy Badger (i.e. I didn't move the slider, it is automatically on "red")

And since Privacy Badger blocks 3rd-party "potential trackers" it is now obvious why in "new tab" I can see the image - there it is 1st-party
 
25) Message boards : Number crunching : How to add stats to a signature (Message 1762362)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
Your post - 21:32:06 UTC
My post - 19:00:28 UTC

Now I can see them.
But at the moment of post they were "empty" on SETI@home pages (but visible if opened in new tab)
(I hit F5 Ctrl+F5 and Shift+F5 ~20 times during 10-15 minutes)

It WAS like this (I saved the picture at 19:10 UTC)

26) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why only 12 Gflops? Am I using my GPU? (Message 1762352)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
I wasn't aware I had to go looking for a OpenCL package as well.

Some driver packages include OpenCL, some not.
AMD have the habit to remove OpenCL in last/newest drivers for old GPUs and old OSes

This table is made by HAL9000
ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet
http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm


Driver packages (Catalyst installer/setup) can be opened by 7-Zip
At least the older - example is from 11-12_vista32_win7_32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe

You can find OpenCL.msi in:
11-12_vista32_win7_32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe\$_OUTDIR\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\

I don't know if just OpenCL.msi from older driver can be installed if using this new Crimson


Programs ("GPU Caps Viewer" and LuxMark) you can use to test OpenCL (my post):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78940&postid=1760022#1760022
 
27) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1762274)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
но как будто стало работать медленее

Ну не все задания одинаковые - обрати внимание на "angle range"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7488485&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=

WU true angle range is : 2.188299 - Run time 58 min 38 sec
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4703167560

WU true angle range is : 0.374034 - Run time 1 hours 30 min 58 sec
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4703455742
28) Message boards : Number crunching : How to add stats to a signature (Message 1762260)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
I had to get the new URL, make a new bit.ly of it, and then paste that into my signature. It's now working, as you should see below.

I don't see the images in your signature even after Ctrl+F5

Open in new tab works:
http://bit.ly/1X692b5
http://bit.ly/1X692b5

But not Image tags here:
{ }

Even direct links:
http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/59591/sig.png
http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/59591/sig.png

don't work as Image for me:
{ }


But this is visible:
http://bit.ly/1aRy7N1
http://bit.ly/1aRy7N1

Image:
{ }
29) Message boards : News : Did SETI@home ever find aliens? (Message 1762256)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
When I first heard about BOINC in 2007 I was thinking they talked about Boeing ;) (which is pronounced bɔ-ɪnɡ in Bulgarian (not boʊɪŋ nor bɔɪŋ))
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Your kooky computers (Message 1761886)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile BilBg
Well Alf, It is Alf, right?

No, ALF is the (Alien) character from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)


I clearly stated what the problem was and what I was seeing. Very clearly.

Not at all.
I will not read Again this raw (not-in-paragraphs) text.
I stopped reading this post after "Very clearly."
31) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1761429)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile BilBg
BOINC в Catalyst принудительно настроен на максимальную производительность т.е. на 7670M

Какая эта настройка?
Возможно ли выбрать "если boinc.exe работает -> использовать 'этот' GPU"?


Можете ли вы опубликовать первые ~ 20 строк из журнала? - Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
(где BOINC детектирует GPU)
32) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Dual Graphics. Logical choice?... (Message 1761423)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile BilBg
<use_all_gpus>0|1</use_all_gpus>

... ему не поможет - BOINC находит только один GPU

AMD Radeon HD 7500/7600/8500/8600 series (Devastator) (512MB) driver: 1.4.1848 OpenCL: 1.2
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7488485


Я кстати не знаю что это Dual Graphics - обе GPU видимы для софтвера одновременно?
Или хардвер переключает ту один ту другой?
33) Message boards : Number crunching : What's the best valued GPU? (Message 1761416)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile BilBg
If the computer is very unstable (can hang/crash/BSOD any moment) it is obviously dangerous to flash BIOS / Firmware

Not with a Gigabyte board, that got dual-bios

The update Firmware attempt was for Asus GTX 970 - Device Id: 10DE 13C2 ; Subsystem Id: 1043 8508
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/162336/asus-gtx970-4096-140903.html

And the used ROM file was wrong - for MSI GTX 970 - Device Id: 10DE 13C2 ; Subsystem Id: 1462 3160
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/162340/msi-gtx970-4096-140910.html
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1761403)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile BilBg
So, I can block the Win 10 upgrade to my Win 7 Pro PC by following the steps in the "Computer Configuration" part of your link?
...
How to you FIND "Computer Configuration?"

If you ask questions like that - better change your mind and:
Use GWX Control Panel - the author (Ultimate Outsider) can be trusted.
Just reading the docs/Guide shows for me he is knowledgeable and honest.

It (GWX Control Panel) sets the same Settings described + can monitor if they are changed again by Windows at later time


Reputation of the site (by users/visitors):
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/ultimateoutsider.com

GWX_control_panel.exe scan (Detection ratio: 0 / 54)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/d11ecbfbaaffc58d26594923cdd096defed0e081eeade05b65a4173f1866ad42/analysis/


If you still want the "manual way" (but it changes only one thing of many; and Windows update may change it back any time (people say)):
Win+R
gpedit.msc

Policy path: Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Windows Update
Setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update

(Do you understand the above? If not -go for GWX Control Panel)
35) Message boards : Number crunching : What's the best valued GPU? (Message 1761377)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile BilBg
Fireware Firmware image PCI subsystem ID 1462.3160 does not match adapter PCI subsystem ID 1043.8508

1462=Micro-Star International (MSI) ("Firmware image" = the "bin" file with new Firmware)
1043=ASUSTeK Computer ("adapter PCI" = the real Hardware)

"subsystem ID" = who made the card/motherboard (e.g. ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, EVGA)
"Vendor ID" (not shown in your post) = who made the chip (e.g. NVIDIA, Intel, ATI, AMD, Realtek)

PCI Vendor and Device Lists
http://pcidatabase.com/

P.S.
If the computer is very unstable (can hang/crash/BSOD any moment) it is obviously dangerous to flash BIOS / Firmware
36) Message boards : News : SETI@home Version 8 for Android and GPU to be released January, 21st (Message 1761313)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile BilBg
whenever I click "beta" or "join", it takes me to pages that have nothing to do with this ATI Radeon 4xxx beta

Of course it will not say "ATI Radeon 4xxx beta"

This is "SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta" projects' general page
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

You "join" the SETI@home "beta" project by Copy/Paste of the page URL in BOINC Manager - "Add project" window, i.e. you Copy/Paste this string:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

You may select here:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/prefs.php?subset=project
... that you only want "SETI@home v8" and only "Use ATI GPU"

Then BOINC will automatically Download "beta" apps only for "SETI@home v8" for "ATI GPU"
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.44 - new release for v8 (required upgrade) (Message 1761302)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile BilBg
I just discovered that the Astropulse device-specific configuration files (for those with multiple, disparate GPUs) that Raistmer added back in the fall of 2014 apparently still haven't found their way into the app_info.xml file generated by the Lunatics installer.
For Nvidia GPUs, that would be 'AstroPulse_NV_config.xml'

Are you sure this file have to be described in app_info.xml to be used by AstroPulse app?

In AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2742.exe I see this exact string (Copy/Paste):
AstroPulse_ATi_config.xml

I'm not sure if the app needs <soft_link> file in 'slots' or it directly checks the app directory (next to real .exe)
38) Message boards : Number crunching : Your kooky computers (Message 1761293)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile BilBg
You seem to not need or want any help.

But if you do need/want help:
- describe your problem shortly and clearly (what do you want? what you see instead?)
- state your Settings - Copy/Paste from pages:
Computing preferences
SETI@home preferences

At the top of first page:
"These settings apply to all computers using this account except
computers where you have set preferences locally using the BOINC Manager
Android devices
"

So if you use Local preferences - check them:
"Settings override the same preferences set on the project's web page preferences"
39) Message boards : Number crunching : Rounding in app.config (revsited?) (Message 1761282)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile BilBg
Realizing that .33 X 3 is .99 it seems you have to set the CPU to .34 so that 3 WUs will reserve a core.

Yes, it is the way it works (unless there is some newer BOINC code I don't know about)
BOINC do not do "Rounding" - it Truncates, try with 0.66 and you'll have to see the math is:
0.66 * 3 = 1.98 = 1

i.e. BOINC will "reserve" 1 core even if you use 0.66
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Where to download a virusfree Windows 7 .ISO ? (Message 1761269)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile BilBg
Is there (where?) a possibility to download a virusfree Windows 7 x64 (Home Premium Family) .ISO - and I can activate it with the 'OEM product key'?

I don't think key is needed - you can use any Windows 7 DVD (it usually can install any "version" - Pro, Home, ...)
The "key" is embedded in BIOS, Windows install should see it - just try.


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