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21) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it possible to swap a guppi assigned to GPU with a Arecibo assigned to CPU? (Message 1799692)
Posted 29 days ago by Profile BilBg
Matching client state changes to scheduler files...

If this means your script edits sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml
- I don't think it is needed - BOINC creates new sched_request_ file (without reading the previous) before every scheduler request ([Update])
(i.e. BOINC never reads/parse sched_request_ files (you may even delete them), only writes to them.)

The only thing your script need to analyse and edit is client_state.xml
(the analyse for <app_version> ... <version_num> <plan_class> have to be in client_state.xml and not in sched_request_*)
22) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : AMD 6950 GPU load starts and stops (Message 1798992)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
clean driver instllations etc...

To be really "clean" did you used "Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU)"?:
http://www.wagnardmobile.com/
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html


Install AMD 14.4 WHQL drivers, but that did not make it use any GPU load...

If "AMD 14.4 WHQL drivers" are the last working for HD 6950 - it is possible that ATI AMD dropped (did not include) the OpenCL part in the package.

Check if what you Downloaded have the OpenCL part:
- Open the Setup .exe by 7-Zip and look what files are inside
- Look in C:\ATI\Support\{driver version name}\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\

E.g. I can see OpenCL.msi in:
11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl.exe\$_OUTDIR\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\
D:\ATI\Support\11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\
23) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help (Message 1798985)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
     I can change back to SoG with 0.45 installer Beta(3) but how do I make it use this app instead of the included r3472?

Copy the files from the new package to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)      (probably you can skip the .dll files - they should be the same)
Edit app_info.xml with Notepad

Global replace (Ctrl+Home Ctrl+H) the old .exe name by the new MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r3475.exe
Global replace (Ctrl+Home Ctrl+H) the old MultiBeam_Kernels_rXXXX.cl name by the new MultiBeam_Kernels_r3475.cl

(Don't type anything, only use Copy/Paste from real filenames to avoid mistakes.)

Save the edited app_info.xml
Restart BOINC


P.S.
Don't use the included MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV.aistub since it have only:
<version_num>800</version_num>
24) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Tsk with nvidia_sog file (Message 1798981)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Discussed here:
"SETI@home v8.12 Windows GPU applications support thread"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79760

They (developers) try to find what to change for next sub-version (e.g. v8.13) in application code and Settings to "fix SoG hang issue on low-end GPUs"

And the main developer (Raistmer) try to find some NVIDIA hardware where he can test his apps:
"SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79765
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 (Message 1797776)
Posted 21 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
OK, I checked and THIS TIME the CNET Download is clean (identical file to HxDSetupEN.zip from the FTP download link)

But CNET is source of adware ("infects" browser) which THEY put "around" many of the free files, see user comments:
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/download.cnet.com

You should have one of these files:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ea6ea4d4cc90f891915856b0393f99f275c0b6bb2a9e75a6b262117a18a2a469/analysis/
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ec8ab9522eefd2db19a18203e4195430a12c0c9e49b1e15cf195cee385da0d0c/analysis/

Look in "Additional information" for MD5 and File size.
Or just send your file for scan:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 (Message 1797646)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
I have downloaded the hex editor

I hope you did NOT used download.cnet.com !

Use the FTP download link:
ftp://wa651f4:anonymous@mh-nexus.de/HxDSetupEN.zip

I prefer 'portable' (no install):
ftp://wa651f4:anonymous@mh-nexus.de/HxDen.zip
 
27) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 (Message 1797644)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
I fear I will probably have to leave that to the next generation of installer writers.

You may just put an "example" app_config.xml file in docs\ in a hope that people even look in docs\
(and maybe ReadMe_app_config.txt to say some short info where to copy it and what to edit in it?)
28) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 (Message 1797618)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
this installer is designed to preserve your downloaded tasks and pick up where your previous application left off. That includes when switching between CUDA and SoG, in either direction.

"The installer is designed to preserve" but users are not ;)

One user 'aborted the Cuda WUs that were "Ready to start"' after installing SoG app by this installer.
He didn't understand that what is shown in BOINC Manager (tasks marked as CUDA) is not the reality.

He wants/advices for "at least inform the user at the end of the Lunatics setup" about this "quirk":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79766&postid=1797177#1797177
29) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1797617)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
I hope they can fix that in Lunatics (if possible) ...

Fix what?
Lunatics installer never changes client_state.xml (now or in the past)
Anything already Downloaded (e.g. marked as stock apps) will remain marked the same in client_state.xml (as shown by BOINC Manager)

If you want "at least inform the user at the end of the Lunatics setup" ask the author (Richard Haselgrove) in the place where he will see this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79704
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 (Message 1797614)
Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Use [Quote] button and Copy/Paste the following line to Notepad:
->               <- space (nbsp)

-> <-
-> <-
. . Even when I copy your spaces, both directly and via a notepad file, once I paste them into a message they end up disappearing when it is posted so I am guessing that Hex character 'A0' is not supported in the character set loaded on this machine. Or there is something that changes them to Hex character '20'.

. . Thanks for trying to help.

You Quoted my line (above) and it is OK
This is "copy directly" from the typing box, Not from the page:
->               <- space (nbsp)

So nothing changes them in the browser.

Alt+255 works in any program, e.g. while typing in Notepad. Try it.
Save the .txt (as ANSI) and open in Hex Editor - what do you see?
https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
31) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI applications for NVIDIA GPU improvement - how you can help (Message 1796839)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
I need to set up dropbox again, something went wrong with the first try.

You may also use:
http://www.zippyshare.com/

Note:
Since zippyshare uses some misleading [Download] buttons (ads) on the resulting pages you (all) may want to first add uBlock Origin to your browser:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
32) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can't merge computers by name on website (Message 1796837)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
4. Now /all/ of those sites are reporting roughly the same number I get at the top of the "My Account" page, indicating that all but the most recent credits are included.

Next time check this page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

If the files are old all the "stats sites" will show that old info.
(if you get user.gz you can find in it all the users of SETI@home including yourself)
33) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1796830)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Is there an easy way where I can keep the sse3 app running on the CPU cores but get the SoG app running on the GPUs (instead of Cuda 50)

The only way I have come across that doesn't involve going into complex XML files or the command line is by trying Lunatics v0.45 in BETA that I mention in my 2nd post.

Yes, Lunatics v0.45 is the best way.
"command line" can be used for both stock and Lunatics ("command line" will be empty by default in both cases)

! Lunatics v0.45 have both CUDA and SoG apps - if you later want to go back to CUDA do Not run Lunatics v0.44 ! (because all the "SoG tasks" will be deleted)
Instead run again Lunatics v0.45 and choose CUDA (will preserve "SoG tasks" and "mark them" as CUDA tasks - this may not be visible in BOINC Manager but they will be done by selected CUDA app which can be checked by Windows Task Manager)


then I can compare using the stock setup (with SoG on the GPUs)

With "stock setup" you can't choose SoG - the server will send tasks for some (all?) CUDA versions and for opencl_nvidia_sah & opencl_nvidia_SoG
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 (Message 1796828)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
[edit] a pity it didn't work though.

Use [Quote] button and Copy/Paste the following line to Notepad:
->               <- space (nbsp)

Then use (Copy/Paste from Notepad in future) the "spaces" that are between the arrows.

P.S.
- Do not Copy the above line from the page, Copy from the typing box after [Quote] button.
- Use [Preview] button before post to see if "it did work"

Alt+255 (and similar) exist since MS-DOS times.

"Your spaces" look like normal spaces (Hex: 20 20 20 ...) and "My spaces" look like A0 A0 A0 ...:
20 20 20 20 20 20 54 68 69 73 20 69 73 20 73 6F 20 6D 75 63 68 20 62 65 74 74 65 72 : This is so much better 2D 3E A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 3C 2D : ->               <-
35) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can't merge computers by name on website (Message 1796578)
Posted 16 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
all other places it's not containing the unmerged credits and therefore shows 30% less.

See:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/333020/overview
36) Message boards : Number crunching : Enabling APU's GPU with installed discrete GPU. Mobo is MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 (Message 1796323)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
What Settings are in the BIOS for this?
If there is no Enable / Disable APU look for "Shared RAM"
Set Shared RAM to fixed (e.g. 512 MB) and not to Auto
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Open Beta test: SoG for NVidia, Lunatics v0.45 (Message 1796310)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
. . I think you made the same mistake I did, .....

. . Another brilliant "D'oh!" moment.

Off-topic:
If you use these dots only to make indented text - why not use Alt+255
Like this: 
     I think you made the same mistake I did, .....

     Another brilliant "D'oh!" moment.


P.S.
Alt+255 = press Alt, type 255 (use the Right-num-keys, not the top), release Alt
Then Copy/Paste that ->                <- space (nbsp)                as many times you like.
38) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1796299)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
Are there other options that I'm not aware of?

You may ask in "OpenCL NV MultiBeam v8 SoG edition for Windows" for the best Settings (cmdline) for SoG app on your NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79019

Then you may just Copy/Paste to the appropriate .txt file.
(I don't know the exact filename but something like mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt)

As an example (not recommendation) - in this post there is a cmdline ( -sbs 192 ..... -oclfft_tune_cw 16 )
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79019&postid=1773305#1773305


There should be also ~ ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_NV.txt in setiathome.berkeley.edu\docs\
 
39) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Running 2 WorkUnits on a GPU is using 2 cores to feed GPU. Is there a quick way to figure out if that's an improvement? (Message 1795666)
Posted 12 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
<cpu_usage>0.25</cpu_usage>
.....
It works!!! ...but it is using 1 core to feed each of the the GPU WUs.

It's not clear what you mean by "using" and what you mean by "it".
The <cpu_usage>0.25 tells BOINC to "free one core" (run one less CPU task) per 4 GPU tasks running.


BOINC sees 8 cores and I was letting it use 6 or 7

So you tell BOINC to "free cores" by 2 ways (which add-up)
- by Setting: e.g. "Use at most 99% of the CPUs" ("hard" Setting - will free 1 core always)
- by app_config.xml ("soft" Setting - (if <cpu_usage>0.25) will free 1 core only if 4 GPU tasks are running)

<cpu_usage> in app_config.xml don't tell anything to the app, because the app don't know what is app_config.xml (which is read only by BOINC)
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1794595)
Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile BilBg
and kept hammering the retry button

If you use BoincTasks this hammering can be automated, I have this set at ~15 minutes (refresh_asap) in config.xml (in BoincTasks install directory, next to BoincTasks.exe)
<config> <refresh> <downloads> 1709 </downloads> <uploads> 1307 </uploads> <refresh> 3571 </refresh> <refresh_asap> 907 </refresh_asap> </refresh> </config>


Note:
For me <refresh> don't work (is ignored) when <refresh_asap> is present (on BoincTasks 1.61)


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