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1) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Trouble getting GPU units to run on Quadro FX 1600m (Message 1605498)
Posted 13 hours ago by Profile BilBg
The
boinc_installer.exe /v /a c:\temp xcopy c:\temp\boinctemp\app\*.* e:\boincportable\app\boinc

actually modified the registry.

If you used Sandboxie that would not happen.

I didn't realize Sandboxie was critical to the process (keeping the registry clean), as you mentioned installing to a USB was an option, nor did I realize Sandboxie's wider usefulness. It will have much more use from me now that it's installed.

:) In fact I didn't know what will happen during the 'unpack' by /a (it was the first time I try it)
That's why I used Sandboxie (I have it for years)

I "mentioned installing to a USB" as a minimum precaution in case you don't want to get a new program (Sandboxie)
I see in 'DefaultBox' two directories with names WINDOWS and Windows
- this means the boinc_installer.exe /a (try to) write in directory named Windows
(I don't know if it is the real Windows directory or just another directory named 'Windows' - my real Windows directory is D:\WINDOWS\)


It was surprise for me that it "actually modified the registry" (I didn't expected this so didn't checked this at the time)

Since I still have the files in 'DefaultBox' I checked this now and it is really changed
(for info: the changed parts of the Registry are in ...\DefaultBox\ in file RegHive)


If I run RegEdit the normal way and 'Export...' "BOINC Setup" I get this:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup] "INSTALLDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\" "SETUPTYPE"="Single" "LAUNCHPROGRAM"="" "ENABLELAUNCHATLOGON"="0" "ENABLESCREENSAVER"="" "SERVICE_DOMAIN"="" "SERVICE_USERNAME"="" "SETUPSTATESTORED"="TRUE" "MIGRATIONVERSION"="" "MIGRATION"="TRUE" "MIGRATIONDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\" "RETURN_REBOOTREQUESTED"="0" "REBOOTPROMPT"="" "RETURN_VALIDATEINSTALL"="1" "DATADIR"="H:\\BOINC-Data\\" "ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION"="" "ENABLEUSEBYALLUSERS"="" "ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION2"=""



If I run RegEdit under Sandboxie (in 'DefaultBox') and 'Export...' "BOINC Setup" I get this:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup] "DATADIR"="D:\\boinc_6.10.60_windows_intelx86__unp\\CommonAppData\\BOINC\\" "ENABLELAUNCHATLOGON"="" "ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION"="" "ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION2"="" "ENABLESCREENSAVER"="1" "ENABLEUSEBYALLUSERS"="1" "INSTALLDIR"="D:\\boinc_6.10.60_windows_intelx86__unp\\program files\\BOINC\\" "LAUNCHPROGRAM"="" "MIGRATION"="TRUE" "MIGRATIONDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\" "MIGRATIONVERSION"="" "REBOOTPROMPT"="" "RETURN_REBOOTREQUESTED"="0" "RETURN_VALIDATEINSTALL"="1" "SERVICE_DOMAIN"="" "SERVICE_USERNAME"="" "SETUPSTATESTORED"="TRUE" "SETUPTYPE"="Single"



Is this bug or intended behaviour I don't know


P.S.
You may also like this program: RegFromApp
"RegFromApp monitors the Registry changes made by the application that you selected, and creates a standard RegEdit registration file (.reg) that contains all the Registry changes made by the application."
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/reg_file_from_application.html

Nir Sofer makes many other very-small and useful tools, you may want to check what will be of use for you (I use ~15)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/index.html
2) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Merging Computers (Message 1605471)
Posted 15 hours ago by Profile BilBg
I don't want to just delete it, because then I lose my credits

You will not lose any credits if you delete computer.

But there is no need:
- It will 'vanish from view' after 30 days since 'Last contact' (will be visible only if you click 'All computers')
- I don't think project have any trouble storing the list of computers (not much space used):

Your highest number computer is ID: 7437252 (and probably is the 'new' you talk about)
Lets say the info for one computer (CPU type, Operating System, BOINC version, ...) stored on the server is 1 KB (~1000 letters/symbols)
All the 7 437 252 computers registered will need 7 437 252 KB = 7 GB (the size of one DL DVD)
If I am wrong and the info is 10 times more - even you can store 70 GB on your own HDD

If you look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

- the biggest file is   host.gz   607 MB - and contains info about all the computers at SETI@home
These files from the above link are used by sites like BOINCstats to show everything on their pages (the only info they have is from those a few .gz files)

***

These are 'All computers' of yours:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=8961852

The oldest 'Last contact' is '18 Nov 2008' for:
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz


I should be able to transfer those credits to the "new" OPR3 computer

Why do you think you "should be able"? (they are in fact different computers)
(only you see your computer names like 'OPR3' (and only I see my computer names, etc.))
3) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [RESOLVED] (Message 1603586)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile BilBg
@BilBg: I use TThrottle ... That is why I stated that the i7-860 needs to be monitored continuously to prevent overheating.

Why?
(or you mean "needs to be monitored continuously" by TThrottle and not by you??)


And what's with underlining words like "it" and "app"? Is that supposed to mean something to me? :\

Of course. It shows to readers which word I am talking about


Disconnecting something because it is not performing properly is not the right answer

And your "plan of getting a new MB and CPU is still on, just more urgently than earlier this morning" just because of wrong LED info is "the right answer"?

Nobody said you have to "disconnect something" forever - this was only for test (which you did).
Next step was to suggest where to connect it (and you found the answer yourself following Cosmic_Ocean's "Moved the DVD drive to the second controller on that board and that problem was resolved")


From your first post:
"Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be greatly appreciated. :)"
So - did you used any suggestions or you come to the idea that DVD (or the connection to it) is the culprit (as it turned out to be) by yourself?
4) Message boards : Technical News : Status Update (Nov 19, 2014) (Message 1603571)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile BilBg
If you don't mind me asking, what version of Informix do you use?


IDS 10.00, unfortunately.

And which Edition?
Some say e.g. "Resource limited to a single CPU core and 1GB of server memory"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Informix_Dynamic_Server
5) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [RESOLVED] (Message 1603519)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile BilBg
I'm tired of the i7-860. It has to be monitored continuously to prevent it from overheating.

TThrottle - and no need to 'monitor continuously' by eye
Set the highest temperature you want and CPU will not go over it (auto for BOINC apps, to 'TThrottle' for all other programs/processes make 'Rules')
6) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [RESOLVED] (Message 1603517)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile BilBg
2. No need to get so snarky. If you would have read and quoted that WHOLE line of text you would have read that I was going to run with the cable off today. As I am doing right now. See what happens when you do not read everything in a message?

The rest of the line:
"The issue goes away with a re-boot. I'll do it tomorrow when I have more time to deal with it."

Since it comes directly after 'a re-boot' I was thinking it refers to 'a re-boot'
7) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [RESOLVED] (Message 1602948)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile BilBg
Why would this issue not show up months ago instead of a couple days ago?

It may be bad SATA cable or bad contact of cable 'pins' to DVD or to motherboard.

Some DVD drives (or motherboard controllers?) make the LED always ON when they are opened. (and the device may 'think' it is opened even when you see it as closed)
If you open/close the DVD drive what happens to the LED on the computer case?


I don't have my CD/DVD burner app running. There should be no "pending I/O operation" where the optical drive is concerned.

No need to have any special 'app', Windows itself may poll the DVD from time to time.
In 'Safely remove' icon (on Windows XP) I see my DVD drive listed for 'removal'


If I remove the cable, I will have to wait 6 to 9 hours to see if that will "fix" the issue.

So what? Do you use the DVD every day?


The issue goes away with a re-boot.

On every re-boot or is random?
8) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [RESOLVED] (Message 1602377)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile BilBg
The LED that you call "HDD light" is active also for DVD drive access.
So check do you have some old disk in the DVD drive.
Open/close the DVD drive.
Or disconnect DVD drive (and, if possible, other 'data' HDDs) to check which one causes this.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : MB temps per HW Monitor (Message 1601341)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile BilBg
These maximum temps are shown by HW Monitor for my ASRock Z87 MB:
systin 37C
cputin 28C
auxtin 38C

You can see by yourself - there is something strange: cputin < systin (= CPU "is" cooler than the air inside the computer case)
So I will not believe this program

In SIV look:
- in the center - for CPU cores (internal) temperatures
- in the rightmost - for CPU package (external) temperature

If you have program from motherboard manufacturer (AsRock) - use that to compare the values to other programs
(in fact I had to 'work' with the author of SIV a few years ago.
He wanted a series of screenshots to see the movement of values simultaneously on several monitoring programs (ASRock OCTuner, SIV, HWiNFO32, Everest)
- so he can tweak SIV to my motherboard (which is AsRock from 2006) to show all the right values)


In BIOS - write down the temperatures, then (on idle computer) compare the values shown by programs - they should be nearly the same


By the way: do your new (replacement) PSU have +12 V more stable/high than the one you returned?
10) Message boards : Number crunching : "....Note: CUDA apps are supported only on Windows and Linux; Mac OS X support is coming soon..." (Message 1601338)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile BilBg
Bilbg,


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3813190545
...
... you are being warned here http://lunatics.kwsn.net/ --> As always, use these apps AT YOUR OWN RISK.

See your own link (above) - do you see some familiar names?:

If I ask nicely, will you then please stop bashing me and showing me links to earlier posts!?

I didn't show you any links to earlier posts - look the link and click - it is resultid=3813190545 from your post (and is NOT a link to earlier posts)

And in the 'Stderr output' visible are the names of Lunatics, Raistmer, Joe Segur ... ('Stderr output' is written by the app)
(that's to show that you already use the Lunatics "use AT YOUR OWN RISK" apps which are sent to you as stock apps (project accepted them and use them as stock))
11) Message boards : Number crunching : "....Note: CUDA apps are supported only on Windows and Linux; Mac OS X support is coming soon..." (Message 1599815)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile BilBg

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3813190545
...
... you are being warned here http://lunatics.kwsn.net/ --> As always, use these apps AT YOUR OWN RISK.

See your own link (above) - do you see some familiar names?:

AstroPulse v7.04
Linux 64 bit, Rev 2696, OpenCL version by Raistmer, GPU mode
V7, by Raistmer ported to Linux by Lunatics.kwsn.net team.
by Urs Echternacht
ffa threshold mods by Joe Segur
SSE3 dechirping by JDWhale using SSE3 emulation
12) Questions and Answers : Getting started : how to delete a post in a thread? (Message 1599705)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile BilBg
Just stating which post number it is about isn't helpful without also knowing which thread it's in.

Yes
But since he have a few posts it's (this time) easy to find:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76052&postid=1598107#1598107
13) Questions and Answers : Web site : SETI Credits not linking to BOINC or allprojects.com Databases (Message 1599670)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile BilBg
My guess is that the SETI site is the problem, the data not being exported correctly.

No need to guess
Every time you see such problem look here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/

As you see files are from 03-Nov-2014


The same link on other projects:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/stats/
http://www.enigmaathome.net/stats/

http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/stats/
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/stats/
http://aerospaceresearch.net/constellation/stats/

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/stats/
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/stats/
http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/stats/

 
14) Message boards : Technical News : What's happening... (Nov 8, 2014) (Message 1599666)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile BilBg
You talk about the "increasing the minimum quorum" and "keep all of the results going to the same kind of hardware" effect.

But what about "a mechanism that sends out overflow results for 2nd round of crunching"?
I understand this as:
If validator have 2 "overflow results" ('initial replication') and they match - do not mark the WU as valid - instead send 3-rd task to check is that real or false overflow
15) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598925)
Posted 17 days ago by Profile BilBg
hm, think, your green arrow goes to pin 21.

Look again ;)




16) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598786)
Posted 17 days ago by Profile BilBg
 
! When testing - all power cables have to be disconnected from the PSU
except two:
- "24 pin ATX" - you short pin 16 to left or right pin (both are ground)
- "a molex to a fan" (or to multimeter) - to see if the PSU output is OK

I think it is this pin on your cables but wait confirmation from a few other people:



 
17) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598770)
Posted 17 days ago by Profile BilBg
More info and pictures:
http://www.ochardware.com/articles/psuvolt/psuvolt2.html


! The Green is #16 - NOT 15 as in HAL's link

16 PS_ON# Green Power Supply On


http://pcsupport.about.com/od/insidethepc/a/atx-pinout-24-pin-12v-psu.htm

"16 Power on Green"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX#Power_supply

Here as PS_ON#
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/ATX_PS_signals.svg/516px-ATX_PS_signals.svg.png
18) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598739)
Posted 17 days ago by Profile BilBg
I plugged a six pin into the PSU the outlet was to a molex. The molex connected to a fan but the fan didn't turn on.

I don't understand
You mean you connected just one cable to the PSU (all other cables disconnected):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/psu_rear.jpg

... and the other end of this cable is a molex and you connected a fan to that molex?

Of course the fan will not spin (because the PSU is in fact OFF).

To turn the PSU ON you need to short the 'green pin' on the "24 pin ATX" to black (ground, zero)
http://pad2.whstatic.com/images/thumb/9/98/Check-a-Power-Supply-Step-6.jpg/670px-Check-a-Power-Supply-Step-6.jpg

... but all your cables are (?) black which will make this pin harder to distinguish
19) Message boards : Number crunching : new computer died an early death while installing a 270x (Message 1598645)
Posted 17 days ago by Profile BilBg
Stupid questions but:
- are you sure the power button cable (from the front of the case) is connected to motherboard?

Did you turn OFF the power switch on the back of the PSU before installing the video card?
(and now that power switch is in ON position again)?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/psu_quarter.jpg

Sometimes even the mains cable of fuse fails (try another mains cable on another wall outlet)

PSU have "Short Circuit Protection", "Over Current Protection", ...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/2.html

(to check for fallen metal objects (which may cause Short Circuit) you may slowly turn the case in different directions and listen to some 'drop' noise)


If someone can see internal fuse (in the PSU) on the pictures?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/4.html

What is the dark-blue small plate at bottom-right (near the cable end) on this picture?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/in_top1.jpg

EDIT:
OK, it is not plate but capacitor (previous picture is blurred for me)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM850/images/in_modular_front.jpg
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some guidance and advice on optimizing my optimized app. :-) (Message 1597949)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile BilBg
I need to check who chose SSE2 - was that David, or the installer's CPU detection?

From his post:
"I chose the SSE2 apps on the first page of the installer"


My i5 (gen 2) pre-selects SSE4.2 - I'd expect the same for an i7 (unless it has AVX)

He talks about AstroPulse (for which I think only SSE2 and SSE3 variants are in the installer)
(but he maybe also "chose the SSE2 apps" for MultiBeam?)


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