Posts by BilBg

1) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC (Message 1869445)
Posted 10 hours ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
Linking here some other threads about the same problem:

"Screen saver not working under Windows 10":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81343

"Boinc screensaver & Creators Update (Microsoft, Win10)"
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=11560

on GitHub:
"Windows 10 Creators Update broke BOINC screen saver"
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/1859
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC (Message 1869369)
Posted 16 hours ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
I see a file was created named stderrgfx.txt. I'm seeing entries like this:
...
shared memory segment missing

That is the problem.
Now someone who makes applications and knows enough about programming in Windows have to figure-out why "shared memory segment missing" on Windows 10 Creators Update.
(is this a bug made by Microsoft or is it some new change in Windows, e.g. "for security"?)

("shared memory" is used so the applications' screensaver can get data from the running application)
3) Questions and Answers : Windows : GPU work only on one project (Message 1868399)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
Go to SETI@home preferences

At bottom:
Add separate preferences for ... (choose any of home, school, work)
Change them the way you want e,g, uncheck "Use CPU"

Then go to the computer page (as your computers are "hidden" I can't give you link) and at bottom change "Location"

Do the same on other projects (but uncheck "Use GPU")

This "Use CPU" / "Use GPU" Settings control what to be Downloaded in the future.
Tasks already in the computer continue to run (finish them or abort them)
4) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC (Message 1868376)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
Double-clicking on the graphics executable results in a black box (the command prompt) opening and closing immediately.

It is not really "command prompt" but the window of setigraphics itself.

If you want to play a little more (you can do the same on a "bad" and "good" Windows 10 system to see the difference):

For the next test I used v7 files as I have them, as you guess your filenames will be a little different.
I used Process Explorer to monitor and kill processes.

A)
- Snooze BOINC
- Make an empty directory (e.g. ...\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\SetiGraphicsTest\)
- Copy in it setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
- Start it (setigraphics*.exe)

On a "good" system (Windows XP) I see this and it stays open until I close it:



- Close setigraphics*.exe (if needed)
File stderrgfx.txt is created (the last 2 lines appear only after I close the window of setigraphics):

14:27:47 (3412): Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
14:27:47 (3412): Starting graphics application.
Warning: unable to load JPEG file. File size=0
Failed to load 'user_logo'.
Failed to load 'background'.
14:33:03 (3412): Close event (WM_CLOSE) detected, shutting down.
14:33:03 (3412): Shutting down graphics application.


B)
- Copy 3 additional files:
setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll
work_unit.sah         (this is any WU file ~356 KB renamed to work_unit.sah)

- Start setiathome_*.exe
Wait 1-2 minutes and see how some 4-5 files are created.

- Start setigraphics*.exe



- Close setigraphics*.exe (if needed)
- Kill setiathome_*.exe (by Process Explorer)

- UnSnooze BOINC
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC (Message 1868024)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
@All (having this screensaver/Win10 issue and wanting to investigate)

What happens if you manually start SETI@home screensaver?

- While some SETI@home CPU task is running (you see process in memory with name like setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe)
Go to SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) and start the SETI@home screensaver, name like:
setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : Merging Accounts (Message 1867372)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
For more info read:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81361
7) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old Member, Old Problem (I'm sure) (Message 1867370)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
If David Turner had used the email of this account on the link to "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits" he would have seen:
- Date 19 Mar 2000 on his current account (Date is copied)
- "SETI@home classic workunits 3,764 - SETI@home classic CPU time 36,087 hours" on his current account (these numbers are moved)
- Both accounts will remain existing
- The old account will be with removed classic counts

I have witnessed all this several times in the past years while helping other users do the same as in this thread.
Unfortunately David Turner used the email of another account from 2004 which we were unable to see before the "merge" but I'm sure it looked "the same" as userid=85575 (only with different classic counts)

In the end - if you give me the email of userid=85575 - I can "merge" it with my account ("merge" means: "Date is copied" + "Classic numbers are moved")

Maybe the text from this link is more clear (that all Classic is converted and looks like userid=85575):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php
"When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date. These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password)."
8) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old Member, Old Problem (I'm sure) (Message 1867337)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have no idea of the email address

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=85575

Since that old account (userid=85575) was never used for BOINC you may try to merge it with your current account (userid=10469435) by just guessing your old email address (no need for it to be active or exist)

His Classic points are already added to that account, which is a BOINC account and as you know, BOINC accounts cannot be merged. The account may never have been used for BOINC, but that is a BOINC account. Most probably the OP's original Classic account that got transformed into the BOINC account.

userid=85575 is exactly "original Classic account that got transformed into the BOINC account" and that can be merged.
(No "Real" Classic accounts exist, they are all converted. If never used for BOINC they can be merged. He managed to "hit" another of his Classic-converted accounts from 2004)
9) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Old Member, Old Problem (I'm sure) (Message 1864968)
Posted 25 days ago by Profile BilBg
Post:
I have no idea of the email address

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=85575

Since that old account (userid=85575) was never used for BOINC you may try to merge it with your current account (userid=10469435) by just guessing your old email address (no need for it to be active or exist)

Just try any old email you can think of on this page (you need to be logged-in your current account while doing this):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic_link.php

If the email is wrong you will see something like this: "No Classic account exists with the e-mail address: wuiefiowsiofjsdojcoi@ajsdkaskl.ccc"

If successful - your current account will have date 19 Mar 2000 and added list of classic workunits (which will be removed from the old account):
SETI@home classic workunits 3,764
SETI@home classic CPU time 36,087 hours

Note:
The above link is found on this page (under "Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits"):
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

I was unable to find path to it by the menus here. But since I knew it existed I used "Site search" for word Classic and used the second result.
10) Questions and Answers : Windows : New version of Win10 not running BOINC (Message 1860322)
Posted 8 Apr 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"BOINC does not start" means "boinc.exe is not in the list of running processes" (as seen in Windows Task Manager, Process Explorer, ...)
"no engaging the screen saver" does not mean BOINC is not running.
BOINC screensaver (boinc.scr + boincscr.exe) only shows some pictures, it is not really needed for the processing
("processing" is done by SETI@home applications which are started by boinc.exe)
11) Questions and Answers : Windows : So what exactly is my computer doing? (Message 1857663)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
So its that it? I just let it run and do not participate directly?

Practically - yes
Unless you want to read and post on forums, e.g. Number Crunching


What are the credits?

They are like points in game, you get them for "Valid tasks":
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8231523&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Error while computing" (Message 1857657)
Posted 25 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
I didn't realize that all the GPU choices were checked.

That doesn't matter.
If you don't have NVIDIA or ATI/AMD GPU BOINC will not ask for such tasks/applications.
Now, with unchecked NVIDIA and ATI, you may see 'nag' Messages in Event Log that "tasks for NVIDIA are available but your Preferences are set to not accept them" (or similar wording)
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : "Error while computing" (Message 1857374)
Posted 24 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Just uncheck "Use Intel GPU" in SETI@home preferences
(And of course check "Use CPU")
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : How to activate SETI screensaver on Win 10? (Message 1857372)
Posted 24 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
What to do? Any ideas?

This was already answered:
"the only application that has the graphics application is the CPU application. So only when work runs on the CPU do you see the Seti graphics"

So do you have CPU tasks Running?
 
15) Questions and Answers : Web site : wrong language detected - parts of site are in russian? (Message 1853643)
Posted 7 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
From the top blue bar select: Site -> Languages
Choose English
16) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Dual GPU's (Message 1853505)
Posted 6 Mar 2017 by Profile BilBg
Post:
CTRL+Shift+F



Just set/check any Log Flag (e.g. benchmark_debug) and cc_config.xml will be created.

Then edit cc_config.xml by Notepad to change 0 to 1 in line:
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

Restart BOINC
17) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833712)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
There is 8.21 apps deployed for testing on beta.
Please verify your observations regarding excessive memory usage on all 3 app's flavours.
...
Lets see what app flavour your hardware select on beta before moving further on this topic.

Not possible to "see what app flavour your hardware select on beta" - I run BOINC 6.10.58 so run "beta" only by app_info.xml (else I don't get any tasks)
So for "all 3 app's flavours" I need exact file-names to make (by hand) Download URLs
18) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833711)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Long" run (I did this ~6 h ago)

MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557.exe

WU:
09fe09aa.7329.14796.7.34.239
<true_angle_range>0.44810357783225</true_angle_range>

1) This was run under BOINC (no cmdline) and BoincTasks recorded (second "MB" is from "Virtual" column):
09fe09aa.7329.14796.7.34.239_0	01:01:18 (00:02:45)	0.04C + 1ATI	689.01 MB	696.77 MB

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?result_name=09fe09aa.7329.14796.7.34.239_0


2) Offline run - did not show change of max RAM used (from the above "under BOINC (no cmdline)" 15ms and this 60ms):
-tt 60
Target kernel sequence time set to 60ms

(721338368 bytes ~= 687.92 MB)

"(PDH-TSV 4.0) (FLE Standard Time)(-120)"	"Process(MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3557)\Working Set"
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19) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home v8.19 Windows GPU applications support thread (Message 1833699)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
Have semi-problem to checkpoint (every ~3 minutes, not at <1 minute as is set) on AR:
4.195846
...
and in BOINC for AR 4.195846 (the WU is paused in BOINC)

(now BOINC is on r3578)
For this is Fixed:
- checkpoints every ~50 seconds
- <prog> almost == <fraction_done> for all duration of the run

Not fixed (something I forgot to report earlier):
- On 'Snooze' or any other pause of such task - the process waits ~10 seconds before exiting
-- in this "slow exiting" the app don't write to stderr.txt the usual:
GPU device sync requested... ...GPU device synched
Termination request detected or computations are finished. GPU device synched, exiting...

(this "GPU device sync" is written when pausing VLAR tasks)
20) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC client isn't downloading new S@H workunits on S6 Android (Message 1833678)
Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile BilBg
Post:
"Add project" (the same way you did for SETI@home) and Copy/Paste the following URL (there should be a box named URL in the "Add project" dialog):
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

And the same is the Home/start page of "SETI@home Beta" project:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/


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