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1) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task Stalled at 99.730% Complete (Message 1790160)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile BilBg
Failed to load 'user_logo'.
Failed to load 'background'.

Nothing to worry about these, they are normal Messages (they are "by default") because user_logo and background are custom files which normally don't exist.
Only if the user wants he may supply in SETI@home preferences "URL of background image" and "URL of logo image"


I tried suspend/resume about 50 times with no change.

How long do you wait (e.g. 2-3 minutes should be enough) after resume?

I'm almost sure the app is hanging in "Optimal function choices" (which don't depend on task), this is long (years) existing bug in stock CPU apps.
If the app passes the "Optimal function choices" (startup phase) it will continue with the task and not hang during its processing.

You can see the app is doing real progress by:
- in Windows Task Manager, on Performance tab - from View menu check "Show Kernel Times" - then "too much" Red will mean the app is hang in "Optimal function choices"
- date/time of state.sah will change every minute (that is the checkpoint file)
- the <prog>0.99646484</prog> inside state.sah will change (increase)


Did you try to reboot?

P.S.
I know how to avoid this hang (and compute much faster) but you will lose the SETI@home screensaver

To try this "fix"/improvement - use the Lunatics installer (to install optimized applications):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1758149#1758149

Again: optimized applications don't have screensaver
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : Task Stalled at 99.730% Complete (Message 1789821)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile BilBg
It should be this task:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4920821023

Try a few more "suspending it and then resuming" - the app is probably stuck in "Optimal function choices"


More Advanced:
- Find your BOINC Data directory (in the start of Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E))
- go to slots\ directory
- in one of them find stderr.txt - open it and post contents

- look in state.sah - near beginning you may see <prog>0.99730000</prog>
3) Questions and Answers : Web site : Is there are way or a place to get the bulk data from: Statistics | Top Computers/Hosts? (Message 1789475)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile BilBg
The date and time fields are not what I have come across in the past.
Q1. Any idea where I can get info on converting something like: 1381254675.63566

1381254675.63566 = 08 Oct 2013 17:51:15 GMT
http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm


I have come across a few records that have inconsistencies, such as this one:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6081632
where the details of the "p_vendor" has the data that should be in "p_model" field.
Q2. Is there someone I should report these inconsistencies to?

No need to report - this computer is using very very old BOINC version 3.20.0

All this info is detected by BOINC running on the computer and then reported to the server in sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml (check this file in your BOINC Data directory):

<host_info>
.......
<p_ncpus>3</p_ncpus>
<p_vendor>AuthenticAMD</p_vendor>
<p_model>AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 455 Processor [Family 16 Model 5 Stepping 3]</p_model>
<p_features>fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow</p_features>
<p_fpops>3350943396.226415</p_fpops>
<p_iops>7288347395.347965</p_iops>
.......
<os_name>Microsoft Windows XP</os_name>
<os_version>Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)</os_version>
</host_info>

<coproc_ati> <count>1</count> <name>ATI Radeon HD 6570 (NI TURKS) {ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP)}</name> <req_secs>144881.226448</req_secs> <req_instances>0.000000</req_instances> <estimated_delay>0.000000</estimated_delay> <target>18</target> <localRAM>1024</localRAM> <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM> <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM> <engineClock>800</engineClock> <memoryClock>1050</memoryClock> <wavefrontSize>64</wavefrontSize> <numberOfSIMD>6</numberOfSIMD> <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision> <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment> <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment> <maxResource1DWidth>16384</maxResource1DWidth> <maxResource2DWidth>16384</maxResource2DWidth> <maxResource2DHeight>16384</maxResource2DHeight> <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion> <atirt_detected/> </coproc_ati>



Any additional related info, thread or people who might know something about these pseudo-XML files would be greatly appreciated.

All stat sites process the same files, you may ask them
4) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to leave a team? (Message 1789215)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile BilBg
In your ACCOUNT at top-right:
"Member of team" XXXXXXXXXX · Quit team


how do I delete the duplicate post

Under post there is small red square - click it and ask moderator to hide
5) Message boards : Number crunching : GBT ('guppi') .vlar tasks will be send to GPUs, what you think about this? (Message 1788244)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile BilBg
And some would call this cherry-picking and SETI-unethical behavior. And I would agree this time.
There is another possibilities like task re-scheduling that will do the same w/o any harm to project itself.

@Raistmer
So where can WezH get the re-scheduling app from ... I don't think it's enough to just say it's a possibility without giving the solution.

Where WezH can? You don't think? So, start to.
Or now nasty things will be "in the wezH name"?

And regarding "app availability" - it's not so hard to devise it by yourself. But sure it will require few more brain cells than to press "abort" button

It may requires fewer brain cells to locate the old program still on the creators site. It does need updated to work with the current version, but a detailed step by step process was provided by someone else that uses it recently.

You mean this?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77586&postid=1763938#1763938

(Link to get boinc_rescheduler_2_7.zip and how to patch the .exe to work with setiathome_v8
If there was a box on the first tab (to choose/type application) as it exist on the second tab (for AstroPulse) this patch would not be needed.
)
6) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bonic 7.6.22 no gpu ? (Message 1788134)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile BilBg
Restart BOINC and post the first 40-50 lines from Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)

Check/adjust:
1) Computing preferences
Store at least 3 days of work
Store up to an additional 0.1 days of work

(If you use Local preferences - make this change there (or revert to web Preferences))

2) SETI@home preferences
Use NVIDIA GPU [v]

3) Do not use Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) or Fast user switching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_user_switching
7) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Massive reduction in GPU processing speed - help needed (Message 1787900)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile BilBg
Very Low Angle Range (VLAR) = WU recorded when the Telescope is looking at one point in the sky (dedicated observation) = most valuable data

"Normal" Angle Range (~0.42) = WU recorded when the Telescope is "not moving", just rotates with the Earth
- for 107 seconds (the time length of a WU) the Telescope passes 0.42° of the sky:
  (360/86400)*107 = 0.44°
[I'm not sure why in my mind "Normal" Angle Range is ~0.42 but this calculation gives 0.44° - maybe because 86400 seconds (24 h) is the period for Earth to turn again to the Sun and not to distant stars...]

Very High Angle Range (VHAR) = WU recorded when someone moves the Telescope fast through the sky (VHAR WUs are also known/called in this forum as "shorties", they take much less time to compute)

P.S.
If you want very technical explanation from one of the developers/programmers (why GPUs are slow on VLAR)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79418&postid=1787909#1787909
8) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Massive reduction in GPU processing speed - help needed (Message 1787737)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile BilBg
More head scratching!!!

If you want to read:
"Average Credit Decreasing?"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79418

"GBT ('guppi') .vlar tasks will be send to GPUs, what you think about this?"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79548
9) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Lenovo Y50-70 has two GPUs, BOINC only seems to see one at a time (Message 1787736)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile BilBg
And your log is?
Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E)
10) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Re: I want sound (Message 1787481)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile BilBg
What "previous poster"?
(I know there are some that wanted this but we can't know what and where you read just before starting this thread)

For WU sound use SETIspirit (there is a menu at top-right)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76360&postid=1776655#1776655

http://www.setispirit.de/
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm

P.S.
You probably mean this "i want sound" but it is from 13 Nov 2013
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73255
11) Questions and Answers : Wish list : no CPU load setting in BOINC GUI ? (Message 1787479)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile BilBg
The Settings are the same:
Use at most N % of the CPUs
Use at most N % CPU time

Computing preferences
Local preferences

For more fine control (ms and not seconds pauses, set max temperature for CPU/GPU and Max CPU %) use:
TThrottle
12) Message boards : Number crunching : screen saver disappeared (Message 1775388)
Posted 31 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
The SETI@home screensaver exists only for CPU tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7944253&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Select Running "SETI@home v8 v8.00" task and click [Show graphics] to test
(GPU tasks/app "(opencl_ati....)" don't have graphics/screensaver)
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on EVGA GTX650ti (Message 1775381)
Posted 31 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Can't figure it out. I came down to check on the computer and it was running the one wu with no trouble...

If the computer clock/time go back tasks (app processes) stop (exit) but BOINC continue to show them "Running"
(at least this happens on BOINC 6.10.58 (and less), I don't know if this happens on current versions of BOINC)

Usually the scenario is:
- computer clock go too fast and after some time is too far in the future
- then Windows syncs time (from CMOS or Internet) to the correct (= for all programs this looks like "go back in time")

In this case:
- tasks (app processes) stop (exit) after 30 seconds
- BOINC continue to show them "Running"

- BOINC restarts the tasks after the "missing" time period expires


Can somebody test this on new BOINC?
E.g. set the computer clock 3 minutes back (and wait/look what happens in the next 5 minutes)
 
14) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Running SETI while using my computer? can I do that.. (Message 1775378)
Posted 31 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
The Setting is not specific to SETI@home, it is global (for all projects, for BOINC)
Computing preferences

Uncheck:
"Suspend when computer is in use"
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Help (Message 1774953)
Posted 29 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg

Run down the cache first then use the uninstaller in the control panel add/Remove programs but make shore your finished all the units or they will be lost .

Bionic will just revert to stock


. . Thanks for that.

No, this person don't know how BOINC or Lunatics installer works (I have him in my ignore list because of nonsense posts)
("make shore" it is BOINC and not "Bionic")

Uninstalling Lunatics will revert to the last config - Not to stock
i.e. if you did several installations of Lunatics you will revert the applications and app_info.xml to the previous Lunatics installation and not to stock.

If you want to listen to someone listen to Richard
He writes the Lunatics installer
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Help (Message 1774945)
Posted 29 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
. . Also, recording cobblestone values for each completed task would have been helpful as well.

. . I doubt if there is an app that actually does those things but we tried :)

If by "cobblestone values" you mean this: flopcounter: 22194348195682.281000
- there is additional program in BoincTasks install directory:
BoincMonitor.exe

Run it and it will preserve stderr.txt for every task (and keep it for a period you select)
Edit monitor_config.xml to set the number of days to keep stderr.txt files (I use 7):
<config> <options> <stderr_out> 7 </stderr_out> </options> </config> <!-- Copy this file from the BoincTasks examples to the exe location. stderr_out keep a copy of stderr_out for a number of days, 0 will disable this feature. -->
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Help (Message 1774809)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
OK, I think I may have found the answer in the source code of the x264 project that the plug-in I'm using is based on.

247 /* 6/9 (pentium-m "banias"), 6/13 (pentium-m "dothan"), and 6/14 (core1 "yonah")
248 * theoretically support sse2, but it's significantly slower than mmx for
249 * almost all of x264's functions, so let's just pretend they don't. */

- so the detection doesn't work on Yonah (or banias/dothan)

Before I think up a way of kludging that, ...

You may just let user to override the detection by any of:
- checkbox in installer
- cmdline switch e.g. -test or -override_CPU or -NoCPUdetect or ...
- the same switch in some .ini file
18) Questions and Answers : Windows : How can I see what my little lap top has found ? (Message 1774786)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
You may try if you like SETIspirit
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76360

http://www.setispirit.de/
http://www.setispirit.de/downloads.htm
19) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : inconsistent gpu usage (Message 1774785)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
Could my PSU be the problem?

I tried enabling OC genie in the bois but the computer black screens under load, so Ive been running the FX-8350 at stock clocks

Its a 900w off brand psu I bought off ebay.

If this is no-brand PSU that really may be the problem.
They lie about the rated W by big margin

According to this graph just one ATI Radeon HD 5970 card makes full system to use 476 W
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5970,2474-15.html


But lets try some testing:
cc_config.xml

<ignore_ati_dev>N</ignore_ati_dev>
Ignore (don't use) a specific ATI GPU. You can ignore more than one.

N=0 will ignore (for BOINC use) GPU 0 (half of the first card)
Change 0 to 1 2 or 3 to ignore other GPUs

If any combination of 3 GPUs work it should be a weak PSU

If 3 GPUs also fail you may try to ignore any 2 GPUs:
<cc_config> <log_flags> </log_flags> <options> <ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev> <ignore_ati_dev>2</ignore_ati_dev> </options> </cc_config>
20) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Lenovo Y50-70 has two GPUs, BOINC only seems to see one at a time (Message 1774759)
Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile BilBg
None of your computers show "a pair of" NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=10253250

Which means the second GPU was not detected by BOINC
Only after BOINC see the GPU may <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> have any effect.

There are 3 things you can try to make BOINC see the GPU
- connect Monitor to the second GPU

- connect "Dummy Plug" to the second GPU
"The 5-second VGA Dummy Plug"
http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=11

"The 30 Second Dummy Plug"
http://www.overclock.net/t/384733/the-30-second-dummy-plug

"Dummy Plugs for Graphics Cards"
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=167450

Search:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Dummy+DVI+Connector

- "Extend Desktop" to the second GPU


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