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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660392)
Posted 12 hours ago by Profile BilBg
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4066815312

6 hours for CUDA ?:
Run time 6 hours 20 min 29 sec
CPU time 6 hours 20 min 29 sec

It seems to be running on CPU (?) (at least some tasks)
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660377)
Posted 13 hours ago by Profile BilBg
The file I downloaded from kwsn is "Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32_v7.7z". I'm not sure, i.e. don't remember, the exact download path at kwsn.

Probably you mean this:
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=cat5
http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item24

efd9f0d9e0e16438ac52c6c9d5062e0e *Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32_v7.7z


The difference from this:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=1
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=311

13eec4052ca08ebe29bf5cae82a944fb *Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z

... are only the included app_info.xml files and for CPU setiathome_7.01_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu


The small work units, about 23K GFLOPS, complete in about 15 minutes. Larger ones take proportionately longer.

Yes, his "Run time 2 hours 51 min" looks big


Third-
I have, on occasion, encountered the "exited with zero status but no finished file" condition. In my case the trouble was a lost ISP internet connection. In that circumstance completed tasks are unable to upload; they keep trying, however, and timing out. During the timeout delay the "heartbeat" ping (from boincmgr?) to a running task is not answered and eventually boincmgr terminates the task. Which generates another "completed" task unable to upload, which generates more timeouts, which (almost) guarantees any running tasks will fail. It's an avalanch.

'Almost' correct but:
- "No heartbeat from client for 30 sec - exiting" (stderr_txt) = "exited with zero status but no finished file" (stdoutdae.txt) = app exit by its own, not "eventually boincmgr terminates the task"
- this does not mean the task is terminated/killed - the tasks don't fail, they are just restarted from checkpoints
- boincmgr is only a GUI, all real management is done by boinc (if that's the name on Linux, it is boinc.exe on Windows)
 
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660350)
Posted 14 hours ago by Profile BilBg
On Windows all those files are in the same directory as the BOINC executables
I.e. all the following is in the same directory:
libcurl.dll
libeay32.dll
ssleay32.dll
zlib1.dll
...
boinc.exe
boinccmd.exe
boincmgr.exe
...

I don't know if the same have to be on Linux (i.e. where the BOINC executable searches first for Libraries)
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1660341)
Posted 15 hours ago by Profile BilBg
What is in stderr.txt (in 'slots' directory) (not stdoutdae.txt which is written by BOINC but stderr.txt which is written by the app)
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Slot Directory errors on new system (Message 1660340)
Posted 15 hours ago by Profile BilBg
This means you had many task started which go then to 'Waiting to run'

boinctray.exe process have to run if you want BOINC to detect when the computer is idle
6) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA works on ATI AMD (Message 1660286)
Posted 17 hours ago by Profile BilBg
 
Asteroids@home don't have any app for ATI AMD GPUs, only for NVIDIA CUDA (and no checkbox for 'Use ATI GPU'):
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/apps.php

So I found this:
http://code.google.com/p/gpuocelot/

"Ocelot is a modular dynamic compilation framework for heterogeneous system, providing various backend targets for CUDA programs and analysis modules for the PTX virtual instruction set.
Ocelot currently allows CUDA programs to be executed on NVIDIA GPUs, AMD GPUs, and x86-CPUs at full speed without recompilation"


The app_info.xml
<app_info> <app> <name>period_search</name> <user_friendly_name>Period Search Application</user_friendly_name> </app> <file_info> <name>period_search_10210_windows_intelx86__sse3.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>period_search_10112_windows_intelx86__cuda55.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>period_search</app_name> <version_num>10210</version_num> <file_ref> <file_name>period_search_10210_windows_intelx86__sse3.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>period_search</app_name> <version_num>10112</version_num> <plan_class>cuda55</plan_class> <coproc> <type>ATI</type> <count>1</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>period_search_10112_windows_intelx86__cuda55.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info>


You can see it is shown as "Period Search Application (anonymous platform, ATI GPU)" at the bottom of "Application details for host 110":
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/host_app_versions.php?hostid=110

(Asteroids@home have Download problems now so 'Consecutive valid tasks' is too low)
 
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1660241)
Posted 20 hours ago by Profile BilBg
I was in F8 at the time using that PO:st10000dm003-9yn162 (953869mm) selection that I had posted after that.

This must be:
P0: ST1000DM003
P0 = (maybe) Port 0 (Port Zero)

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

* How many HDDs are in that computer?
* What is shown on the other lines on the BIOS boot menu?

This selection should be equal to "If I do a normal reboot and let windows start up normally"
if you have only one HDD and the boot order in the BIOS is set to start from it as first 'try'
Something like "Primary boot device: P0: ST1000DM003" set in BIOS

* Can you check in your BIOS setup for something like "Boot order" and what is listed/chosen?

Also: during "normal reboot" try to 'make some workout' of the keyboard/mouse:
- repeatedly hit CapsLock and look when the LED light stops responding to this
- move the mouse all the time till you see the Windows logon screen


The monitor is connected with DVI as was the last one.

If you have VGA port and cable and want to try them - do it when the computer and monitor are completely OFF - even disconnect the mains/power cables to the wall socket.
VGA port is NOT hot-swappable
http://superuser.com/questions/112309/is-vga-port-hot-pluggable


As you can tell I am no software or hardware expert.
As stated before my keyboard is Ps/2. The mouse is USB I have tried it in every USB port this Antec 920 case has. Plus The mouse works on the twin computer. So the mouse is good.

We know already "the mouse is good"
But if USB mouse is connected some driver loads to support it. (and this appear to be maybe broken)
So I would try to boot with No USB devices connected (including NO mouse on USB - just boot without mouse)


P.S.
You did't answer important (I think) questions:

I don't know if you already tell us this info:
- do you have any other USB device connected (e.g. USB hub, USB Bluetooth radio, ...)
- when mouse and keyboard do not respond (e.g. NumLock not changing) - Do you see HDD LED blinking (i.e. is the OS working or hang)
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1659749)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile BilBg
I also wonder what happens if only the PS/2 keyboard is connected, no any USB device connected.

Since the problem started after changing the monitor:
- What if another monitor is used
- Or monitor is connected to other port - e.g. from DVI change it to VGA cable
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1659746)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile BilBg
If needed - go in 'Windows Safe Mode' and try them:
(NONE of them needs install - just extract .zip and run .exe) 

Make that "safe mode with networking" - else he won't be able to download them from the web.

The standard workround - download first, then switch to safe mode for running them - can't be used in this case, because he can't use standard mode for the the download. But the alternative 'sneakernet' could be used if he has a second machine to do the download, and a USB memory stick or a CD burner.

He obviously can post here. So what (computer, phone, tablet, ...) he uses to post?
Will USB memory stick be recognized in Safe Mode?
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1659741)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile BilBg
... and do a reformat on ther hard drive.

??? Only because of some bad driver?

You have several programs to check what Auto-starts and disable what you want.
If you are ready to reformat you may play with them freely without fear to break something.

If needed - go in 'Windows Safe Mode' and try them:
! On your computer F8 seem to have two purposes:
- to invoke BIOS boot menu
- to invoke Windows menu of choices for Safe Mode

= you may guess by yourself when to start hitting F8 - it is just after BIOS messages disappear

NONE of the following needs install - just extract .zip and run .exe

Autoruns - just uncheck what you don't want to start, then restart Windows normally to see the effect
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

ServiWin - "ServiWin allows you to easily stop, start, restart, pause, and continue service or driver ..."
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/serviwin.html

These are more like additions as they mostly duplicate the info from the 2 previous:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/what_run_in_startup.html
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/driverview.html

(these are enough for now to play with ;) )

If you think that you have virus - go in 'Windows Safe Mode with Networking' (if normal mode still is not possible), start IE and use:
ESET :: FREE Online Virus Scan
http://www.eset.com/us/online-scanner/

***

I don't know if you already tell us this info:
- do you have any other USB device connected (e.g. USB hub, USB Bluetooth radio, ...)
- when mouse and keyboard do not respond (e.g. NumLock not changing) - Do you see HDD LED blinking (i.e. is the OS working or hang)
 
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics_x41g_linux64_cuda32.7z (Message 1659604)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile BilBg
 
I think to get CUDA work remove the line:
<platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>

(as you may know - the tasks are the same for all apps)

I really don't know if the server will send work to the combination of:
<platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
<plan_class>cuda50</plan_class>

... since there is no stock CUDA on Linux:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php


You also don't need the following part as you have another CPU app
<file_info> <name>setiathome_7.01_i686-pc-linux-gnu</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name> <version_num>701</version_num> <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform> <avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus> <file_ref> <file_name>setiathome_7.01_i686-pc-linux-gnu</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version>


But for some reason you have lines:
Restarting task XXXXXXXXXXXX using setiathome_v7 version 701 in slot Y

... so if you have on board tasks 'branded' for SETI@home v7 7.01
wait for them to finish and report
Else they will vanish if you remove this section.
 
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Not using GPU? (Message 1659588)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile BilBg
Ok I went for it and it just installed the AMD APP SDK Runtime which I'd already chosen on the main install.

I just wanted to check that your Catalyst had OpenCL in it, and you now confirm that you checked to install it the first time.
But the GPU is old and this OpenCL.msi was installed just for the CPU OpenCL

You can test CPU OpenCL and GPU OpenCL (if it exists) by:
GPU Caps Viewer
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/


It looked like I had messed up my BOINC with one of the Lunatics files so I deleted my app_info.xml, reset the project and restarted BOINC.
Eventlog is still seeing the GPU ok but no longer has the error I posted earlier.

You did't "messed up BOINC" by Lunatics - it only changes files in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
You only 'installed' apps and app_info.xml which need OpenCL (<plan_class>opencl_ati_sah</plan_class> , <plan_class>opencl_ati_100</plan_class> ...)

The GPU do not support OpenCL so the driver for GPU OpenCL was not installed
= BOINC do not see GPU OpenCL driver but 'need it' per your app_info.xml

i.e. you can use app_info.xml - just don't install OpenCL apps (but even if they are there - they will not be used)


Event viewer shows it is asking for CPU and ATI GPU work

Yes, BOINC is in a hope that the project may have CAL ATI app but SETI@home currently do not have any.
In the past (on v6 of apps) there was CAL ATI AstroPulse app but it was too slow and make errors (on some GPU/drivers combo) so was (I think) not updated for v7 apps

Other projects may have CAL ATI apps
 
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : Graphic display on screen saver (Message 1659517)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile BilBg
bonjour,

comment as tu réussi à regler le problème?

j'ai une gt650m de chez nvidia ( en plus de l intel graphics) et je n'y arrive pas!

merci!

hello,

How did you manage to settle the problem?

I have a nvidia gt650m home (in addition to the Intel graphics) and I can not!

thank you!

I can only guess that he did what I say here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76674&postid=1638111#1638111

I.e. connected the monitor to ATI AMD Radeon - in your case to NVIDIA

Or, if both GPUs exit on the same physical port/output (I think it's possible on some laptops) - selected some Option to prefer/use-only the Radeon
This Option probably have to be in some proprietary software that comes from the laptop vendor.


If you tell exactly the model of your laptop some of us may find (on Google) how to switch/select which GPU sends signal to the physical port/output

This is how it is on Mac OS X
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202053
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202043

https://www.google.com/#q=how+to+switch+off+automatic+graphics+switching

***

E.g. using this search:
https://www.google.com/#q=how+to+switch+off+automatic+graphics+switching+windows+7

... gives:
http://superuser.com/questions/298383/how-to-stop-switchable-graphics-from-switching-to-high-power-gpu-when-charging-t
https://ucdavistechtalk.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/how-to-switch-between-intel-graphics-and-nvidia-with-optimus/
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3519/t/19499399
...

P.S.
Now if you find your solution don't say just "That's ok, problem solved :)"
Instead tell in sufficient detail "How did you manage to settle the problem?"
 
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Not using GPU? (Message 1659396)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile BilBg
Maybe they can be used on some other project which have CAL ATI apps but here you need OpenCL and those GPUs don't support it

The HD 4200 may have some rudimentary/beta OpenCL but I doubt you will be able to enable/use it.

Does the driver/Catalyst you installed have OpenCL.msi in it?
During the Catalyst installation it is uncompressed in a similar directory:
D:\ATI\Support\11-12_xp32_dd_ccc_ocl\Packages\Apps\OpenCL\

Edit:
Well it seems Radeon HD 4200 is "Mobility Radeon" based on older chip (so will not have OpenCL)
"ATI Radeon HD 4200
The AMD ATI (Mobility) Radeon HD 4200 is an onboard (shared Memory) graphics chip (on the RS880M chipset). It is based on the HD 3400 graphics core"
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4200.20493.0.html
15) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : After updating to the latest Omega driver, only one GPU core is doing work (Message 1659252)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile BilBg
Your first post show 3 times "(ignored by config)"
That is why Ageless asked to check cc_config.xml

At that time the "(ignored by config)" lines imply that you have in cc_config.xml some lines to:
<ignore_ati_dev>N</ignore_ati_dev>
     ignore (don't use) a specific ATI GPU. You can ignore more than one.


But yes, if the GPUs/video cards of the same vendor are not reported as identical (in your case OpenCL 2.0 vs 1.2 and 4096MB vs 3072MB)
you need <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

Maybe the current BOINC version say "(ignored by config)" even if that means the default of <use_all_gpus>0</use_all_gpus> is used.
(If no cc_config.xml exist BOINC acts using defaults)
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1658939)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile BilBg
ST10000DM003 is the model of your HDD (It probably have one less 0: ST1000DM003):
https://www.google.com/#q=ST10000DM003

How did you see such line by F8 I don't know

HDD (and DVD, FDD, USB flash) will appear I think only on the boot menu of BIOS

BIOS boot menu can be invoked by different keys on different motherboards.
It seems that on some (Asus) motherboards the key is F8
https://craftedflash.com/info/how-boot-computer-from-usb-flash-drive


So maybe you did't go in the Windows 'Safe Mode' menu.

But choosing in BIOS boot menu your HDD should not change anything...
17) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Resolution changes while my PC is working. (Message 1658916)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile BilBg
 
It is so unclear what he says but I think he is making 'observations' and 'discoveries' on the screensaver ;)

At first I was thinking he talks about 'Resolution' of the monitor but for some reason talks about Hz (Vertical synchronization) and not about pixels.

He may want to read explanations and links in the thread which is just next to this:
"I have a strange pulsin signal on my graph":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76985
 
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some help or advice (Message 1658370)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile BilBg
I wish I could go have a look see. Now that computer is back at the log in screen. The mouse is frozen and the keyboard wont do a thing.

Try the following (which may work but not always)

Boot normally but press and hold Shift key until Windows is fully loaded.
This will inhibit loading of some auto-starting programs but not all.
19) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 7.4.42 Windows_x86_64 Keeps Shutting Itself Down Under Windows 8.1 (Message 1658338)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile BilBg
found that \programdata was listed as being "read-only" and "hidden". Don't know what changed the permission for that directory

Nothing 'changed the permission', Windows protects ProgramData from dumb users by making it "hidden". Also if you try to make/remove (sub)directory Windows will (I can't check but I think it will) ask "do you really want this" if UAC enabled.
If you go in any of sub-directories you can freely make changes (I think)

Permissions on ProgramData do not matter for BOINC - instead check \ProgramData\BOINC

This is the first time I hear about IObit Malware Fighter
Since they claim "Detect and Remove Infections and New Hidden Threats" it may be too aggressive.
BOINC downloads .exe files from Internet and then starts them - unaware AV products may think this is Trojan
Can you configure your AV products to Ask before any 'disinfection' action?


included both \program\boinc and \programdata in the exclude list

Do you mean the entire ProgramData or \ProgramData\BOINC
20) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 7.4.42 Windows_x86_64 Keeps Shutting Itself Down Under Windows 8.1 (Message 1657947)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile BilBg
There are the normal entries in the stdoutdae.txt file. Nowhere does it say "[---]Exiting" or is there a line showing an error.

Then this is Not normal - if BOINC do an Exit it will say so:

26-Mar-2015 09:37:56 [SETI@home] Message from server: This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress
[03/26/15 09:41:55] TRACE [2052]: ***** Console Event Detected *****

[03/26/15 09:41:55] TRACE [2052]: Event: CTRL-LOGOFF Event

26-Mar-2015 09:41:55 [---] Exit requested by user
26-Mar-2015 09:42:17 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86

***

If the computer hangs (during game, BOINC was in 'Snooze') and I need to press Reset - then there is NO note of the Exit:

26-Mar-2015 13:12:28 [WUProp@Home] Not reporting or requesting tasks
26-Mar-2015 13:12:29 [WUProp@Home] Scheduler request completed
26-Mar-2015 13:34:59 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86

***

Something seems to kill BOINC or it crashes.
Check also Antivirus logs.


P.S.
It's best to post the exact lines from the files then to explain what they say.


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