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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Msattlers' "simple poll" BSing thread (Message 631882)
Posted 2572 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Same here. I started SAH when I was living with my parents in 1999. Since, then I've moved out and around on my own, got married, and have two kids. I haven't always had the money to pay for internet service. Yet, here I am. Up until the end of July this year I couldn't even link my old classic account to my Boinc account. It was disappointing but I didn't gripe about it.

P.S. I understand the homeless thing. I really shouldn't say I moved out, my relationship with my step-father went sour and I was kicked out. Time has healed wounds though.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Some goodies from upcoming AMD K10 (Message 631877)
Posted 2572 days ago by Profile Sutehk
If one were allowed to ask out of curiousity, what were the dimensions of the prototype?
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Msattlers' "simple poll" BSing thread (Message 631871)
Posted 2572 days ago by Profile Sutehk
I really don't understand why the moaning and groaning continues on the forum. It's a simple thing really, the credit multiplier was set by those who are accountable for such decisions. Having them, the SAH crew, change that decision just because a bunch of users say its unfair, really is lunacy. Many have expressed their unsatisfaction and should leave it at that. Continuing just stresses out the SAH crew more than necessay and may even be detrimental when it comes time for them to actually pay attention and help or fix something really important, like the server connect problems of late. I know I wouldn't be looking foward to lurking the forums and or fixing problems knowing that it's unappreciated because of a decision that was on my account.

In short if you don't like the situation take the moaning elsewhere. There are "diehards" who have stuck with this project through thick and thin and will continue to do so until the bitter end. And, while the new user pool may not be that crowded now, it's just like big business, there is always someone to take your place. This isn't even mentioning newer and faster hardware that will be available the longer the project exists.

As for me, the credits are just a nice thing to pay attention to while the science is getting done. Thats all it is, just a distraction to keep me busy while the otherwise mudane number crunching continues until there is either a "hit" or no more work.

Just my two cents, take it or leave it.

Kudos to the SAH crew, keep up the good work.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help with Java (Message 631687)
Posted 2573 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Thanks for the help Astro, yes that helped. I was able to get a previous version installed, but to no avail, the results were not what I was looking for. The answer lies in the link you posted.

"but not the Java Plugin or Java Web Start (which are not yet available for 64-bit Windows"

Again, thanks for the help.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help with Java (Message 631230)
Posted 2573 days ago by Profile Sutehk
This is the file i d/led: jre-6u2-windows-i586-p-s .

I can only find on version for windows and its either online or offline. After the online version errored i tried the offline version. Same result.

Version is 6 update 2 according to the webpage.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help with Java (Message 631148)
Posted 2573 days ago by Profile Sutehk
As the title says, I need help installing the Java runtime environment. I keep getting an error as follows:

Windows Installer has encountered a problem...

AppName: msiexec.exe AppVer: 3.1.4000.1433 ModName: unknown
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 001f3996

I can get the rest of the debug info if necessary. The computer is a 4800+ with Windows XP Pro x64.

I know this has nothing to do with SAH, but I figure with the wealth of knowledge here, someone can help me.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : A simple poll......... (Message 630820)
Posted 2573 days ago by Profile Sutehk
yay
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux for a 'Doze guy........ (Message 622639)
Posted 2586 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Is running BOINC under linux any faster than running under windows?
9) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI farms (Message 619952)
Posted 2590 days ago by Profile Sutehk
I like your point jason, and rather humorous too. It's all up to the person who is running the hardware. Is it worth it? Me personally, most of my hardware is either old machines I have built, or machines that were given to me.

edit - addon
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Quads & Seti (Message 619926)
Posted 2590 days ago by Profile Sutehk
I have been running win xp pro with a AMD 4800+ dual core. I usually don't, but I have played with the affinities sometimes. Usually, on this machine the usage will stay at 100%. The behavior that I have seen is that one core will usually stay at 50% (in the task manager) and the other core will vary with what other programs are running.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Quads & Seti (Message 619917)
Posted 2590 days ago by Profile Sutehk
setting up affinity is never a very good idea. you 'll figure out quickly if you try.

Let the kernel of your OS deal with it.
If you set up affinities, for example, Outlook will become a serial program, and will give you the appearance of hanging some time, while it just spawned 2 threads, one for interface, one for reading from the server.

except for application that you know perfectly the behavior, with no IO, you can play with this.
Remember as well that IO is very often sent to a separated thread, to avoid user interface glitch. if you set up affinity, it is re-enforced that the child thread will sit on the same CPU too. You 'll lose the benetif of having a Quad core, in a responce time related test.

in the case of seti, on a Quad core, I run 100% SETI or rosetta, and I usually don t feel it when i work. If i run something heavier, i use the task bar button "snozze" and that will free my CPUs.

just my 2 cents.

who?



Would there be any advantages to running seti@home's science app with an affinity?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Quads & Seti (Message 619570)
Posted 2590 days ago by Profile Sutehk
You can, however, force a particular process or program to use only one particular core. The processor affinity setting should allow you to do this under windows on all but core parts of the OS.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI farms (Message 619520)
Posted 2590 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Isn't this question kinda the whole point to DC. Old machines that still have life in them, doing valuable work. By themselves worthless so to speak, but together, able to still blow options out of the water.

Take the KLAT2 supercomputer at the University of Kentucky for example. They didn't want to spend millions on a supercomputer so they DCed a 66 AMD machines.

see here

edit - link and facts
14) Message boards : Number crunching : spike/pulse/triplet/gaussian counts (Message 618568)
Posted 2592 days ago by Profile Sutehk
If your willing to read this article it has a very good explanation of the project and what each of the counts are. Doesn't really give average numbers for each. It was written by the heads of seti@home.

Hope this may help a little.

[edit] spelling
15) Message boards : Number crunching : v5.27 (MB) live on main. (Message 617728)
Posted 2595 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Thanks Crunch3r, yes it was a Windows box, sorry for the lack of info.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : v5.27 (MB) live on main. (Message 617721)
Posted 2595 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Trying to update from 5.17 to 5.27 on one of my boxes, a 2.0Ghz. Northwood. The previous version said it was 2.2B SSE2 generic. What would the replacement be? I didn't see a generic version on the website.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Successful WU - Zero Credit (Message 617501)
Posted 2595 days ago by Profile Sutehk
(edit) - wrong answer, I misinterpreted the info.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : v5.27 (MB) live on main. (Message 617339)
Posted 2596 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Another question:

What happens when one of these new MB WU has to get crunched by a 5.17 chicken soup? I am going to run into this scenario shortly on my main cruncher.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Anyone still using Pentium IIIs (or earlier CPUs) to crunch? (Message 617203)
Posted 2596 days ago by Profile Sutehk
Dual PIII 800Mhz. Coppermines on a Tyan Tiger 133 mobo. Doesn't do half bad for its age.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : 2.0 ghz northwood celeron? (Message 615678)
Posted 2599 days ago by Profile Sutehk
I have two machines with this processor and am interested in overclocking them, however I do not want to spend the money aftermarket cooling options. Will the stock intel heatsink and fan be sufficient at 2.66 ghz. to keep them running stable?


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