Posts by SilentObserver64
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1151395)
Posted 12 Sep 2011 by  SilentObserver64
Post: Okay, I guess you are talking about your ATI GPU. Since you are running the Lunatics app already and not running any APs it is simple. Just go into your app_info and find all the instances of <count>1</count>. I think I remember you are running a 64bit OS so there should be six of them. To run two at a time change all the counts to .5 or, if you want, .33 for three at a time. Word of warning though, this will increase your temps and you may have to back off on your OC as it will put a strain on your system. Thanks for the heads up. Yesterday, I had actually changed the count to 2, thinking that would do it, and then changed it back when I saw it did not work, but I guess you have to divide like a fraction/percent. I was actually referring to my CPU and my GPU on WU's per core. I am running lunatics app, and yes, I am also running/crunching AP's too. The temperatures in which I was referring was for my CPU. Just downloaded GPU-Z. These are before the changes. (CPU Temp before changes still at 125F) Before running BOINC:  LOL, I may need a GPU cooler too!!! While Running BOINC: 
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1151304)
Posted 12 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: I know this is sorta a little off topic, but I'm going to be buying a water cooler soon for the processor. Here are the specs: Model Brand CORSAIR Series Hydro Series Model H100 (CWCH100) Spec Type Liquid Cooling System Block Compatibility AMD AM2 / AM3 Intel LGA 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 Block Material Copper Radiator Dimensions 122 x 275 x 27 mm Radiator Material Aluminum Radiator Fan Dimensions 120 x 120 x 25 mm, 2 fans Radiator Fan RPM 1300 RPM (Low Noise), 2000 RPM (Balanced), 2500 RPM (High Performance) Radiator Fan Air Flow 46 - 92 CFM Radiator Fan Noise 22 - 39 dBA Features Featuring a full 240mm radiator and two 120mm fans, the Corsair Hydro Series H100 extreme performance liquid CPU cooler is designed to deliver cooling performance that meets the needs of even the most demanding enthusiast. Tubing: Low-permeability for near-zero evaporation Package Contents Corsair Cooling H100 CPU Cooler Two 120mm fans Multi-platform mounting kit (Intel LGA 1366, 1155, 1156, and 775, AMD AM2/AM3) Thermal compound (pre-applied) Quick Start Guide My question is, how do I write the command (if it can be done) to have my processor or my GPU crunch 2 WU's per core? Is this even possible? If not, with this extra cooling I have been wanting to get for a while, I'll be able to overclock my processor 4.0+GHz easy. With just fan cooling and 8 fans total in an Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case, OC'd at 3.9GHz with BOINC running 100% on all cores, the CPU temp is 170F or 76.7C, which is smoking hot. So I have to back it down to 3.680GHz with 16x Multiplier, 1.4V, which runs at 52C or 125F, which is still warm for me but is better than 170F. With just the computer running at normal, the comp runs around 30 to 34C or so. With this water cooler, I'm hoping to bring it lower, like into the 20C range or better. Lemme know what you think. Links: Gaming Case (Which I Already Own) CPU Water Cooler |
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A Vote For The Right To Choose Our Own Wingmen???
(Message 1151017)
Posted 11 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: All in all it's still going to take me a long while to get caught up with everything. I just built my supercruncher a couple months ago, and just this week, re-added BOINC to it. Today, I finally am getting a few WU's to crunch from S@H, and S@H Beta has been crunching away this whole time. Just in 3 days I already have 198 WU's pending, and it grows by 60+ (S@H Beta) a day. I'm sure this will lvl out some, since I have some S@H WU's to crunch now. I have resources set to 50/50. RAC is skyrocketing in Beta, and I hope S@H will do the same soon. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150967)
Posted 10 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: Here are a couple screen shots. I did not look at his hosts, and I did think about that after I had posted the links. Can look at this link if it helps. http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=47  
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150958)
Posted 10 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: Hello Mike. I just used it a week ago, and I believe it does now come with it. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150952)
Posted 10 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: Hello Mike. I'm not Mike but you can try this. Lunatics: Optimized For SETI This is a self-installer. Pick the Windows Installer for your Operating System (32bit or 64bit). Ignore the astropulse part beneath the installers. The Windows Installer includes this configuration. Install and then follow the instructions. Read carefully. Afterwards, go into your settings under your profile/account/preferences for SETI@Home, and check the boxes for the following: SETI@home Enhanced Astropulse v5 Astropulse v5.05. Then let your computer crunch away, when it downloads the new WU's. Enjoy! (If you run Linux, let me know, I can get you the link(s) for that OS.) |
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Gripes and Kudos
(Message 1150896)
Posted 10 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: WOOHOO!!! Finally getting some WU's from S@H!!!!! Been crunching on mostly S@H Beta for the last few days. I was beginning to think S@H was having problems getting WU's together so we could have something to munch on while we watch the giant TV outer-space, waiting for our computers to give us an answer. |
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A Vote For The Right To Choose Our Own Wingmen???
(Message 1150872)
Posted 10 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: After having felt the wrath of my suggestion, seeing the very good reasons why it shouldn't be done, and then reminded, why I/we all started this project to begin with, I realize many things. However controversial this subject may be, it is in the human nature to be competitive, whether by a set of rules, or no rules at all, and that includes trying to be the best at it. We all struggle to improve ourselves, or our surroundings in all aspects of life. There are those who try to destroy it, (yes, I am talking about those cheaters, and others) there are those who only help themselves, and there are those who would like to help themselves and others. Here, we try and help ourselves and others (whether intended or not), for a better cause, whether it is truly understood, or whether they only have an idea of what's going on. We are all here to provide a voluntary service, of our time, and our computers, to hopefully find out whether or not, ET really exists somewhere in outer-space. We all have the same goal we are trying to achieve, and how fast you get there doesn't matter, as long as we all get there at some point. We all will see things in a different light, or see some point of view, someone else failed to see, which is what forms our opinions, and makes us individuals. That's how ideas are born. Then we share and grow upon a singular idea (the root), and it forks out like a tree from there. Sometimes it's able to bare fruit, sometimes it dies from lack of water (more ideas), and sometimes the bad out weighs the good, and so that idea started out on bad soil to begin with. Just keep in mind we are all here for the same reason, and not to brow beat or bash someone for trying to get there faster or in a different way than you would, because in the end, we all will be standing next to each other, when our goal is reached. |
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A Vote For The Right To Choose Our Own Wingmen???
(Message 1150683)
Posted 10 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: And, in all fairness, I should say that Silent Observer may not have realized some of the ramifications of what he proposed. And we should not belittle him for posting a perfectly honest and politely proposed idea. As it has been a while since I crunched the WU's actively, and have done so off and on for years now (long before even 2005), I have missed out on a lot it would seem. Yes, I was unaware of the ramifications of my suggestion, which includes cheating, and had I known, I would not even have thought twice to mention it here. I am not dumb by any means, but I seem to have failed to think this one all the way through, before making the suggestion (I have been working 90 hour weeks, so fatigue played a good part in that). I am sorry if I offended anyone, and I do not want anyone here to think badly of me. I have been a member for many years, and never had a problem before, and do not want to start now. I thank all of you for the input, and letting me know why what I suggested, was not a good idea, as I too now see, and agree with your points of views. Lesson learned. Till the next time gentlemen. |
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A Vote For The Right To Choose Our Own Wingmen???
(Message 1150429)
Posted 9 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: I believe that we should have the right to pick from a pool of people/computers, to choose who our wingmen will be, up to 20 WU's per person, so that we are not waiting for months, to get credit for WU's, we already completed, for those of us that are deticated crunchers or more deticated than others (which I think would provide much better results for SETI anyway) If we can not choose, at least match us with those people that have similar setups for systems/vid cards, that also have a set amount of shared resources for that project (for example those who only want to dedicate 20% to that project should be paired with someone who also has only dedicated 20% for that project) and a certain amount of RAC so that we know that person is an active cruncher. That way we know that it at least will be eventually gotten to within a couple weeks, not a few months, or even a couple months. I'm sure this could be elaborated on more, and improved, as brainstorming together, tends to help with. Let's put our heads together, and maybe we can give SETI something to ponder on, and hopefully implement for us. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150081)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: Yeah, I didn't even check the specs yet on the shaders and what not. That's why I want to upgrade to the 6970 series (x2) (or better). Up to 880MHz Engine Clock 2GB GDDR5 Memory 1375MHz Memory Clock (5.5 Gbps GDDR5) 176 GB/s memory bandwidth (maximum) 2.7 TFLOPs Single Precision compute power 683 GFLOPs Double Precision compute power TeraScale 3 Unified Processing Architecture 1536 Stream Processors 96 Texture Units 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units 32 Color ROP Units Dual geometry and dual rendering engines High Speed 256-bit GDDR5 memory interface (One of these days when I can afford to, I would like to get the AMD Radeon HD 6990) Below are the specs for that one. Specifications Default (BIOS1) Up to 830MHz Engine Clock 5.10 TFLOPs Single Precision compute power 1.27 TFLOPs Double Precision Compute Power Overclocked (BIOS2) Up to 880MHz Engine Clock 5.40 TFLOPs Single Precision compute power 1.37 TFLOPs Double Precision Compute Power 4GB GDDR5 Memory 1250MHz Memory Clock (5.0 Gbps GDDR5) 320 GB/s memory bandwidth (maximum) TeraScale 3 Unified Processing Architecture 3072 Stream Processors 192 Texture Units 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units 64 Color ROP Units Dual geometry and dual rendering engines High Speed 256-bit GDDR5 memory interface. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150030)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: I have the same CPU running at 3.6 GHZ with a HD 5850. Very Nice! What is the core and mem clock on your 5850? Seeing mine is a 6770 (See my earlier post for Core and Memory clocks), I would think I may get a bit more out of mine than that from a 5850. Thanks for your input! Also, I am running currently Seti@home with optimized app from Lunatics, and I used the Windows Installer v0.38 64 bit. I haven't had time yet to dig through their site to find maybe a more appropriate/faster crunching app and AP, to then directly modify the app file, but I am also running Seti@home Beta. For some reason the modified app does not work for Beta. Maybe I need to just go in and do some tweaking because when I had ran the installer for Beta, it kept saying the file names were wrong/invalid, and it wouldn't run, so I put it back to stock settings. If anyone has any suggestions to a modified app for SETI@Home Beta that would be great, and also a fast (or faster than the newest Lunatics mod) optimized app for CPU and/or GPU, that would be great. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150028)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: yes, i know very well, that these are BEs, but then the question arise, why this setting: Multiplier x FSB 16.0 x 229.0 MHz I'm not at home at the moment to get the exact specifications of the OC when I was at 4GHz,but there was more to it than just changing the MHz on the FSB. I changed the Multiplier to 18x, upped the VCore voltage to 1.465, upped the voltage on everything else too, some a little more than others, changed the NB and Hyperthreading MHz and multiplier (since the HT has to be less or equal to the NB frequency)to something like 2,800MHz (I could be off here a little, like I said I'm at work now. Will post the specs later when I am home.) and some other little odds and ends on tweaks. You can't just up the MHz frequency on the FSB and expect it to work and be stable too. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150013)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: Yes, it is really an AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition (Thuban Core) Processor. I've still got the box, the receipt, and everything else to prove it. Look it up on the internet (my processor). I'm pretty sure you will find that all AMD Phenom II X6 1090T's are Black Edition. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1150012)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: which test you do on 4.0 or 3.8 and says is stable ? I have run my computer at both 4.0GHz (1.465v, not stable) and at 3.8GHz (1.375V, Stable, to run everything but BOINC) |
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PCI (not express) CUDA card ?
(Message 1149941)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: It means that it may work but it will be at a much slower rate vs pci-e. Hence it's like a bottleneck compared to the rest of your system. |
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PCI (not express) CUDA card ?
(Message 1149919)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: These specifications represent the most common version of PCI used in normal PCs. 33.33 MHz clock with synchronous transfers Peak transfer rate of 133 MB/s (133 megabytes per second) for 32-bit bus width (33.33 MHz × 32 bits ÷ 8 bits/byte = 133 MB/s) 32-bit bus width 32- or 64-bit memory address space (4 gigabytes or 16 exabytes) 32-bit I/O port space 256-byte (per device) configuration space 5-volt signaling Reflected-wave switching Year created 2004 Created by Intel · Dell · IBM · HP Supersedes AGP · PCI · PCI-X Width in bits 1–32 Number of devices One device each on each endpoint of each connection. PCI Express switches can create multiple endpoints out of one endpoint to allow sharing one endpoint with multiple devices. Capacity Per lane (each direction): v1.x: 250 MB/s (2.5 GT/s) v2.x: 500 MB/s (5 GT/s) v3.0: 1 GB/s (8 GT/s) 16 lane slot (each direction): v1.x: 4 GB/s (40 GT/s) v2.x: 8 GB/s (80 GT/s) v3.0: 16 GB/s (128 GT/s) To answer your question, in simple terms, yes, there would be a huge bottle neck. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1149910)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: Best guesses/approximates are fine, and if anyone with related gaming type machines, would post their average RAC for SETI@home and/or SETI@Home Beta, that would be appreciated. |
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What Kind Of RAC Should I Expect?
(Message 1149899)
Posted 7 Sep 2011 by SilentObserver64
Post: Just out of curiosity, what kind of Recent Average Credit should I expect? I built this machine a couple months ago, and I have a bit of tweaking to do. I have a AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition currently turned down from what I had it at (Overclocked at 4.0GHz then turned it down to 3.8GHz stable), but when I ran BOINC, all the WU's kept crashing after 5 seconds or so, so I turned it down to currently 3.664GHz. I still have some upgrades to do on the computer, like better memory, and another video card, to run Cross-Fire X setup. I currently also am running an AMD ATI Radeon HD 6770 (though I want to upgrade it to a 6900 series X2) also OC'd (though for some reason BOINC thinks it's a HD 5700 series), all on a Military Class MSI 890FXA-GD65 MB. I will post the specs below from CPUID CPU-Z (shortened version). Also, any idea's on why the WU's crash if the processor is OC'd past 3.664GHz (yet everything else works fine), and how to tweak the OC higher, and still be stable for BOINC? CPU-Z TXT Report ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Binaries ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU-Z version 1.58 Processors ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of processors 1 Number of threads 6 APICs ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Processor 0 -- Core 0 -- Thread 0 0 -- Core 1 -- Thread 0 1 -- Core 2 -- Thread 0 2 -- Core 3 -- Thread 0 3 -- Core 4 -- Thread 0 4 -- Core 5 -- Thread 0 5 Processors Information ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Processor 1 ID = 0 Number of cores 6 (max 6) Number of threads 6 (max 6) Name AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Codename Thuban Specification AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor Package Socket AM3 (938) CPUID F.A.0 Extended CPUID 10.A Core Stepping PH-E0 Technology 45 nm TDP Limit 130 Watts Core Speed 3664.2 MHz Multiplier x FSB 16.0 x 229.0 MHz HT Link speed 2290.1 MHz Stock frequency 3200 MHz Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V L1 Data cache 6 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size L1 Instruction cache 6 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size L2 cache 6 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size L3 cache 6 MBytes, 48-way set associative, 64-byte line size FID/VID Control yes Min FID 4.0x P-State FID 0x14 - VID 0x06 - IDD 16 (18.00x - 1.475 V) P-State FID 0x10 - VID 0x14 - IDD 16 (16.00x - 1.300 V) P-State FID 0x8 - VID 0x16 - IDD 12 (12.00x - 1.275 V) P-State FID 0x0 - VID 0x18 - IDD 8 (8.00x - 1.250 V) P-State FID 0x100 - VID 0x1A - IDD 5 (4.00x - 1.225 V) Package Type 0x1 Model 09 String 1 0x0 String 2 0x1 Page 0x0 CmpCap 6 ApicIdCoreSize 8 TDC Limit 96 Amps Max non-turbo ratio 16.00x Max turbo ratio 18.00x Chipset ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Northbridge AMD 890FX rev. 02 Southbridge AMD SB850 rev. 40 Graphic Interface PCI-Express PCI-E Link Width x16 PCI-E Max Link Width x16 Memory Type DDR3 Memory Size 12288 MBytes Channels Dual, (Unganged) Memory Frequency 610.7 MHz (3:8) CAS# latency (CL) 9.0 RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 9 RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 Command Rate (CR) 2T Uncore Frequency 2290.1 MHz Graphics ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of adapters 1 Graphic APIs ------------------------------------------------------------------------- API ATI I/O API ADL SDK Display Adapters (Overclocked) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Primary Adapter Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by AMD Graphics Chipset AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series (6770) Device ID 68BA Vendor 1002 Subsystem ID 3150 Subsystem Vendor ID 1682 Graphics Bus Capability PCI Express 2.0 Maximum Bus Setting PCI Express 2.0 x16 BIOS Version 012.020.000.044 BIOS Part Number 113-HD677XZNF70-113-C01201-021 BIOS Date 2011/02/21 Memory Size 1024 MB Memory Type GDDR5 Core Clock in MHz 960 MHz Memory Clock in MHz 1445 MHz Total Memory Bandwidth in GByte/s 76.8 GByte/s Resolution 1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz (From BOINC) 9/5/2011 9:42:27 PM | | ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.1523, 1024MB, 1376 GFLOPS peak) 9/7/2011 6:57:57 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks 9/7/2011 6:57:58 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress 9/7/2011 6:58:29 PM | | Benchmark results: 9/7/2011 6:58:29 PM | | Number of CPUs: 6 9/7/2011 6:58:29 PM | | 3010 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 9/7/2011 6:58:29 PM | | 9127 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU |
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Pending units
(Message 1030404)
Posted 3 Sep 2010 by SilentObserver64
Post: Changed app_info.xml back to new vs. 603 since I can't seem to recover the WU's I lost, to try and see if it's any faster (whenever the servers come back online) and also wait for a reply anxiously to see if there is any way to improve my crunch time. Still pretty pissed and bummed out about all those WU's. That's definitely gonna hurt my RAC, and my team's RAC and overall score. Just started my team a few days ago and we can use all the WU's and credit we can get. If there is anyone out there that wants to or are even thinking about leaving an old team, join us, please, by all means, join us, and thanks everyone in advance for any help you can provide. |
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