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41) Message boards : Politics : Hospitals (Message 1585975)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Definitely think union leaders should be prosecuted...




???

I'd like to take this moment to deeply thank my union who, even as I type this, are going to make sure I get the days pay that I should of got paid to me, but my employers tried to get out of paying.

I'd like to thank them for taking a stand to protect my working conditions.

Thank you Unions. Where would I be without you? Well, there would be no weekends, not minimum pay, no safety protection from unscrupulous employers, no equal pay, no breaks and no protection from being fired on a whim.

Thank you unions.
42) Message boards : Politics : Chimps... Are they people too? (Message 1585973)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Tommy presently is kept alone in a cage in a warehouse in Gloversville, New York. Eventually, hope his advocates, he will be moved to a sanctuary and into the history books as the first nonhuman animal person, possessing rights previously restricted to Homo sapiens.

I will repeat.

Chimps are not people, but in this case simple animal welfare should be taken into consideration.

I will repeat too!

Any living creature with self awareness and the ability to communicate is as much a person as you or I am.

Animal welfare should always be taken into consideration as we should consider ourselves the stewards of this planet, not the masters.
43) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1585972)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Gang violence does not occur over weed, thats mostly stuff like crack. And you gang violence is far more the result of the poverty and lack of economic and social opportunities in a number of poor neighborhoods than it is over the US's drug policy.


Mikey,

Please stop speaking out of your behind. You don't know what you are talking about here.

Gang violence DOES occur over weed.
Gang violence is NOT confined to... poor neighborhoods.

A place I used to live about 20 years or so ago. A solid middle-class apartment complex in a solid middle-class suburb of Dallas. Two rival gangs of weed sellers had a turf war. And by 'war', I MEAN *WAR*.

1 apartment building (4 units) burned to the ground.
2 apartment buildings (8 units) damaged by fire.
12 vehicles torched and burned.
A good friend of mine (a co-worker) killed by a stray bullet.
A child in the complex killed by a stray bullet.
My cat killed by a stray bullet.

Everything was fine when I left for work that evening (I worked the night shift then).
I returned home to a war zone the next morning.

I moved as soon as possible.

+1 from the Barrio in East Los Angeles where there is less gang violence than the upscale million dollar mansions of Pasadena.

Of course he needs to talk about the violence in South and Central America and Mexico too. I hear London has its problems. Then there are the gangs like ISIL.

+2

gangs such as ISIL are often funded by the illegal drugs trade, and that includes marijuana. I'd rather see it taxed and profits going to schools and drug treatment.
44) Message boards : Politics : Chimps... Are they people too? (Message 1585921)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Tarzan's Cheetah paying taxes on his movie residuals .....

..or Cheetah making love to Jane (well that's what personhood can eventually lead to isn't it?)

Oh hey great, legalized bestiality as long as its with great apes.

Can they give consent?

There is reason there is an age limit on human to human sexual intercourse. It is because a child cannot give consent, yet they are still considered a person. I don't think the ability to give consent or not defines whether you are a person or not.
45) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1585915)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
The illegal drugs market is what happens when you have pure, unregulated free markets. Because they do not recognise the law, they have no need to abide by it. Which means you end up with 12 year olds selling it in schools. This is a deliberate marketing policy by the drug dealers. At least when it is in the hands of the government rather than unregulated capitalists (i.e. drug dealers)you can ensure that it isn't being directly marketed to kids. Of course if you are buying something relatively harmless such as weed from the same people who sell you heroin, those free market capitalists (drug dealers) are going to have access to those people as potential customers. I am 100% for legalising all drugs for this reason alone. Get it out of the hands of the criminals. Stop ruining people's lives over it, give them access to treatment rather than prisons.

Oh please, don't be naive. For one, the very fact that something is illegal represents a massive barrier to both the dealers and the buyers. There is a social stigma to using it because its illegal, there is a social stigma to selling it because its illegal. Selling it comes with a wide number of risks such as imprisonment or death which again, create another barrier to entry. Finally, even if you don't care about any of those things, you still need certain contacts to get the stuff before you can sell it, which requires connections, which are not always easy to come by. Completely legalize it and you remove all those barriers. Oh sure, at first there will be rules about marketing, just like technically you are not allowed to market alcohol and cigarettes to kids either. Guess what, kids still drink themselves into a coma and they start smoking at 12. And then when it turns out the narcotics business is big business, and the original dealers turned legal turn into massive corporations and organize their own lobbies, how much of those initial rules designed to 'protect' people will remain in effect?

And sure, legalize all the hard drugs as well. The stuff that once you take one hit gets you instantly addicted for life. The stuff that messes with your brain to such a degree that within a very short time you are simply incapable of working a job, which leads to poverty which leads to crime as those peoples sole reason to exist starts to center around getting their next hit. Yes, sure, dont put them in jail, but put them in a treatment center. And then when they are clean and they walk out, they find that they can get their smack right in a shop at the corner of their street. Relapse triggers everywhere!


It happens here in Vancouver. The medical dispensaries have a range of products that you don't have to smoke. The product is tested and will not contain contaminants such as mould and toxic chemicals. When people are forced to buy weed on the unregulated free market (i.e. from drug dealers) they cannot be sure of what it is exactly they are buying or what conditions it was produced in (i.e. was it grown by slaves? Is the money being used to fund terrorism?)

Yes because thats whats important here. Not that you are freely selling an addictive drug mixed in with candy, but that said addictive drug is 'fair trade'. Even so, this isn't thought through. Fair trade drugs will have a higher cost associated to them, thus giving illegal drug dealers a significant portion of their market back, where they can peddle junk that will rot your brain but at least give you a decent high for a fraction of the cost. Problem not solved, just pushed underground.

Aside from that, decriminalizing selling weed would produce the same effect.

I think you are underestimating the availability of drugs even when it is illegal. Anyone who wants to get weed (including 12 year olds) can get it delivered to their door. By legalising it you can drive the illegal dealers out of business by undercutting them and providing a better quality product. Then it becomes much easier to keep it out of the hands of children and ensure that people who do need the medical properties (which are pretty much accepted as real and have been for some time) can get the proper dose and safe dose.

Again, decriminalizing produces the same effect as in that it undercuts illegal dealers (and again, that only happens to a limited degree). And how exactly is making it legal going to keep it out of the hands of children? Thats just wishful thinking. Oh sure, they can't just buy it in a store, but the same is true for alcohol and tobacco and kids still manage to get their hands on that as well. The very fact that 12 year olds wanna try out weed means that there is going to remain a black market for drugs that caters to 12 year olds.

Compared to nasty drugs such as tobacco and alcohol, marijuana is a much safer drug. This is a fact and is not in dispute by anyone in the scientific community. There are no recorded deaths from Marijuana and its use is prolific.

That bull is what makes pot so dangerous. Everyone keeps hearing from people like you and Glen that pot is supposedly risk free. That you can't get addicted to it and that its safer than alcohol. Yes, its safer than alcohol, but that doesn't mean its safe. Just a little less risky. Its still going to rot your brain away if you use it to often. Its true that you cant get addicted to it physically, but you conveniently forget about the mental addiction. And it is addictive. But hey, keep telling people that its not, lure them into a false sense of safety and you allow and enable the unsafe usage of pot. You people make it dangerous.

Should people drive while stoned? Absolutely not, no more than they should while drunk or texting. However, I am not hearing any demands to outlaw alcohol or phones.

A stupid argument for the same reason as when pro gun people yell that 'knives and cars are also dangerous but no one is saying we should ban those'. Come to think of it, Im pretty sure that argument would not fly if this was a debate about guns, but now you use it when its about something you actually like yourself? Double standards much?

Oh but okay, so why can't we ban alcohol and phones? Well for phones the usage of it far outweighs the negative side effects. As for alcohol, well they tried remember? Didn't work so well. We don't ban alcohol because its practically impossible to do so.

Either legalise weed, or stop being so hypocritical and ban tobacco and alcohol which are far worse. Or have we forgotten what happened when America had prohibition? Pretty much the same thing we have now with drug prohibition. Gang violence and control of the business.

Gang violence does not occur over weed, thats mostly stuff like crack. And you gang violence is far more the result of the poverty and lack of economic and social opportunities in a number of poor neighborhoods than it is over the US's drug policy. Again, don't be naive to think that gang violence will magically disappear if weed gets legalized, or if indeed all drugs are legalized. The only thing it will reduce is the strain on the prison system which is overflowing with people caught on possession. Which I agree, would be a good thing. But you could achieve the same effect by simply decriminalizing it.

It is clear to me that you are the one that is naive if you really are so totally unaware how easy it is to get hold of pot. Both when I was in London it was ridiculously easy and here it is even easier, mostly because Vancouver is world renowned for the quality of the pot grown here. Its won awards.

The data is simply not in about the long term effects of pot use, mainly because most people don't go around admitting that they smoke it on a regular basis.

As to your concern over the addiction of other, more harmful drugs. I worked for the UK anti-drugs co-ordinator for a while and go to read quite a few reports on it. The one that did it for me was the one that pointed out that before Heroin was criminalised there were around 60 registered addicts in the whole UK. That number soared once it was was made illegal.

Make all drugs legal. Educated people on the risks of the harmful ones and give them access to treatment.

If you think there is actual hard evidence that pot is more dangerous than eating a high fat diet, post it here.
46) Message boards : Politics : Chimps... Are they people too? (Message 1585872)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Now for a slight change of pace...

A State Appeals Court in New York heard arguments on Oct. 9th, 2014 in a lawsuit over legal personhood for a chimp named 'Tommy'.

Thoughts?

Ridiculous. I mean, why?


Why ridiculous?

Is the concept of 'people' going to be always and forever a 'Homo sapiens' only club? Or is it possible that at least certain members of other species might attain that status at some point?


If we are not going to be guilty of 'species-ism', what qualities would a non-human have to possess to be a 'person' under the law?

Well so far they have to be a corporation. I see no reason not to now open it up to actual feeling sentient beings.

A chimp has the understanding of a 2 year old child. They can learn to speak sign language. They can lie just like a real person. There is definitely a case to be made that they should have their personhood recognised by the law.
47) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1585855)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Oh ok i have no view on that . That's for you lot to sort out . Legalizing it in my view doesn't mean it will be sold every where which some have suggested .

I don't think it should be sold everywhere any way and i have trouble understanding the argument of decriminalizing it against legalizing it sounds to me like a bit of trying to have it both ways .

Well there are only a few places that have actually legalized it instead of just decriminalized. And in those places you do see that they actually try to sell as much as possible of it.

That already happens in places where it is illegal.

Look the problem with legalizing it is that you put the entire business chain of weed in the hands of capitalist who have a profit motive. That profit motive will drive them to maximize sales as much as they can.

The illegal drugs market is what happens when you have pure, unregulated free markets. Because they do not recognise the law, they have no need to abide by it. Which means you end up with 12 year olds selling it in schools. This is a deliberate marketing policy by the drug dealers. At least when it is in the hands of the government rather than unregulated capitalists (i.e. drug dealers)you can ensure that it isn't being directly marketed to kids. Of course if you are buying something relatively harmless such as weed from the same people who sell you heroin, those free market capitalists (drug dealers) are going to have access to those people as potential customers. I am 100% for legalising all drugs for this reason alone. Get it out of the hands of the criminals. Stop ruining people's lives over it, give them access to treatment rather than prisons.

Maximizing sales means you want to sell it to as many people as possible, and that means advertisement and creating a wide range of products in which you include pot. So rather than just selling pot for people to put in bongs or smoke in joint, you are also going to make other products that contain it. You can see it clearly happening in Colorado.

It happens here in Vancouver. The medical dispensaries have a range of products that you don't have to smoke. The product is tested and will not contain contaminants such as mould and toxic chemicals. When people are forced to buy weed on the unregulated free market (i.e. from drug dealers) they cannot be sure of what it is exactly they are buying or what conditions it was produced in (i.e. was it grown by slaves? Is the money being used to fund terrorism?)

When you only decriminalize the sale, possession and consumption of weed, you contain the profit motive. You severely limit the way you can sell weed, you keep the prices artificially high as production is still illegal and you keep the use of it pushed into some uncomfortable corner where a lot of people are not comfortable of going, thus erecting barriers for use. At the same time, people who still want their joints can still get them and it doesn't place much of a strain on the justice system. I think its a much better way of preventing the massive adoption of weed as some socially acceptable form of mood relief, like alcohol is today, but at the same time give people the freedom to make that decision for themselves.

I think you are underestimating the availability of drugs even when it is illegal. Anyone who wants to get weed (including 12 year olds) can get it delivered to their door. By legalising it you can drive the illegal dealers out of business by undercutting them and providing a better quality product. Then it becomes much easier to keep it out of the hands of children and ensure that people who do need the medical properties (which are pretty much accepted as real and have been for some time) can get the proper dose and safe dose.

Compared to nasty drugs such as tobacco and alcohol, marijuana is a much safer drug. This is a fact and is not in dispute by anyone in the scientific community. There are no recorded deaths from Marijuana and its use is prolific.

Should people drive while stoned? Absolutely not, no more than they should while drunk or texting. However, I am not hearing any demands to outlaw alcohol or phones.

Either legalise weed, or stop being so hypocritical and ban tobacco and alcohol which are far worse. Or have we forgotten what happened when America had prohibition? Pretty much the same thing we have now with drug prohibition. Gang violence and control of the business.
48) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1585144)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
The Truth About Driving While Stoned

"Mark Kleiman, a drug policy expert and professor at UCLA, says driving stoned is hazardous, but much less hazardous than driving drunk. Marijuana, according to a 2013 Columbia University case-control study, holds a relative risk of 1.83—meaning that driving 10 miles stoned is equally dangerous to driving 18 sober. This number falls significantly below those of other factors. In the same study, alcohol is shown to have a relative risk of 12; alcohol combined with something else, 23. According to data from the National Safety Council, the relative risk of texting is 4. “You shouldn’t be driving stoned," says Kleiman. “But there are many things that will degrade driving just as much if not more—having a 4-year-old in your back seat, sleepiness, texting."
49) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lose Weight With Monday II - Double Digits, but no double chins!!! (Message 1583978)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Yep. I have a terrific vegetarian chili recipe. The problem is that it gets served with toppers like grated cheese and sour cream and served with a side of cornbread.

I have vague memories of this. Did you feed us this in between drinks?
50) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1583751)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Angela, I just thought you should know, I'm at college right now and it looks like I've given quite a few of the class Eric's cold.

How is it even remotely possible that you are still contagious??? My guess is that the professor is giving a midterm today. AaaaaChooooooo!!!

Well I was patient zero when I got back from California and since then the rest have been toppling one by one.
51) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1583726)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Angela, I just thought you should know, I'm at college right now and it looks like I've given quite a few of the class Eric's cold.
52) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1583492)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I don't think Es has that much either, she still has that infectious grin :-) It's one of my favourite photos of my Seti journey. Oh my word, 7 years, where on earth did the time go? So many good people not here any more, Dennis, Bodley, John & Sheila, and others, and so many good new people as well. Seti@home has evolved into being so much more than just searching for ET, it is a lifestyle all of it's own.

I got plumper and more grey hairs when I moved to Canada. :) Seven years is a long time. I still have that sweater and it mostly still fits though! :D
53) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1582863)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor


After a relaxing 8 hour drive, I'm finally at home again.
Thank you Esme and Terry for an afternoon of good conversation, plenty of laughs and just a small amount of gossip.

I was thrilled at the opportunity to meet over a few pints and I hope to do it again.

PS: Esme is much taller than I imagined. Couple that with her sharp intellect and she really is the full package.

I really am not sure how anyone would ever get the impression that I am small and petite.

It was a fun afternoon and we certainly spent more time in the pub that I planned to. Our stop at the Save On Foods on the way home was rather interesting after all those beers we'd had.
54) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1582714)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
The real question is why do all these people think it is acceptable to do this and what does that tell you about how woman are valued?

Because that is the societal norm.

If you wish to examine the norm, you likely will quickly descend into biology as it seems to have been the norm for a long time.

LOL! Biology has nothing to do with power structures.

Stop banging that drum Gary, its nonsense.

Power structure? Oh you mean money. Answer the 4 questions if you want to know about power.

I'm not letting you take over the debate in the direction you think it should go rather than dealing with the issue I actually raised.

If you want to talk about how society differentiates between men and women, then you must talk about biology. How expendable male units are in comparison to female units especially when it comes to warfare and how that has distorted values from your idea of a perfect norm. It seem to go far back in recorded history, excepting a few isolated tribes. That should be a big clue by 4 for you if you think this is some newfangled thing that was recently invented or imposed. Long standing norms generally have some basis from outside the society, especially when seen in multiple societies. Maybe the word "isolated" should also be a clue, as in minimal contact and therefore warfare with other humans.

I don't have to do anything, Gary. That's kind of the point. That you think you can instruct me on what points I can and cannot make says it all really.

Socio-biology is a tiny part of the issue, it is often misused, misinterpreted and misunderstood. I won't discuss psudoscience with you. Especially as you yourself are guilty in these very forums of cherry picking your examples.

Also the rest of your post has nothing to do with why it is ok to treat a woman as nothing more than body parts for the use of men. So how about you address that?...and the minute you mention "biology" as if that is the answer you lose absolutely all credibility in my eyes.
55) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1582682)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
The real question is why do all these people think it is acceptable to do this and what does that tell you about how woman are valued?

Because that is the societal norm.

If you wish to examine the norm, you likely will quickly descend into biology as it seems to have been the norm for a long time.

LOL! Biology has nothing to do with power structures.

Stop banging that drum Gary, its nonsense.
56) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1582674)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I can see now why Es ended up here
in Canada, such humor needed an
appreciative outlet.
Is there any more for us to enjoy?



Chris is joking! I can assure you I am not that amusing.
57) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1582673)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Page 3 however is nice if you are a teenage boy:)


only boys Jan ? I'm shore many grown men also like the page 3 girls . Wish the Telegraph would bring them back then i mite start buying it again hehehe

I think treating woman as objects is evil.


+1

Who is more evil?

1)The model who offers herself?
2)The photographer who hires her?
3)The editor who buys the photo?
4)The reader of the newspaper?

You're asking the wrong questions.

The real question is why do all these people think it is acceptable to do this and what does that tell you about how woman are valued?
58) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1582578)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Page 3 however is nice if you are a teenage boy:)


only boys Jan ? I'm shore many grown men also like the page 3 girls . Wish the Telegraph would bring them back then i mite start buying it again hehehe

I think treating woman as objects is evil.
59) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1582361)
Posted 16 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Had the chance to meet Robert Waite today. We spent a pleasant afternoon over a few beers with my long suffering husband (who took the picture).

We can now vouch for each other's realness.

60) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cats (Message 1581712)
Posted 18 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Shame on you. Shame on you ALL!

Letting the Cats thread drop to page 2 ;)


Ok so I was wandering around the internet today and I came across this:
Dettol is toxic to many animals, especially cats. Dettol contains phenols. Phenols are of particular concern because cats are unable to eliminate the toxins following ingestion. A cat may swallow the product by licking his paws after they have come into contact with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dettol

I can't remember it in the US but Dettol is big in the UK. In Greece it's widely available and I've got a Lime version of their liquid soap to wash my hands after playing with the cats.

But the kitties like to play ruff and I don't mind a few scratches so my hands/fingers are in their mouth all the time. Which freaked me out a little bit. Needless to say I'll be much more careful from now on.

Good thing I never bought the floor-mopping version...

Thanks for this. I never knew. We have it because I have a house full of boys and it is very effective for getting rid of foot fungus (which pretty much tells you all you need to know about having a house full of teenage boys). I shall be sure to make sure it is cleaned up properly when it is used in future.


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