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41) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1613047)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
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If there is a real problem, I will step up as a spokesperson to address that problem, if I feel that there is a need to and that I think that it's warranted (as I have done many times before in my life). ...

I really know how you feel Wiggo. I will continue to speak out against injustice even though there appear to be many vocal people who'd really like me to shut up.
42) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1613039)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
What concerns me is that the "private messages" are being brought into the thread anyway by giving a flavour of what their content is. As this is used to bolster personal attacks on people publicly then I do think that it was a fair question to ask.

I am well aware of the rules around private messages.

It doesn't worry me at all. Anyone can claim to get private messages on any topic they want saying anything they want. I even get private messages of support, I just don't feel the need to announce it on the boards. So the whole "there are private messages going about" thing is neither here nor there and if the sole argument that someone has against me is that "there are private messages" I'd say I'm obviously making my point better than they are.
43) Message boards : Politics : Are you a psychopath? (Message 1612307)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Now there's a thought! Any "good" chemists amongst our lot?

Well, I'm a chemical engineer. Not the same, but I do have second-year chemistry behind me. My country might profit from a good leader with a chemistry background. Our current one has no formal schooling at all. And it shows!

Interestingly, highly educated Modern American President's, Wilson, Bush Jr. (Harvard), and Obama, were/are failures.

Perhaps Practical (make things work) Educated Persons - Chemists, Engineer's, etc., will be better.

Who says Obama was a failure? Despite the obstruction of the right wing he got a lot of things done. He fixed the economy that Bush Jr broke. He made a start at fixing your healthcare system. He is working on fixing your broken immigration system

For fixing a economy that was in such a deep hole alone he should get credit. He saved your asses.
44) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1612303)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Es99 YOU Posted:

and perhaps it is enough to make you and Gubba afraid of black people.

EVERY one of Your Posts after this attack, excusing YOUR Personal Attacks, Hate-Filled Attacks, Racial Attacks, Racial Profiling, and Violation of The Rules of theses Threads, I Repeat: IS DISGUSTING.

Have you no shame? Or will you continue?

...and then I clarified what I was saying.

If you are having trouble understanding what I am writing feel free to ask for clarification before you start with your ranting insults. I am getting tired of it Clyde.

On the plus side I am getting a powerful insight into the mind of a policeman and your ability to assess information and draw reasonable conclusions based on it.

I think my mistake was assuming a certain level of understanding of these issues based on your claim to have black family members. I seem to have pitched my posts in such a way that they have sailed clear over your head. I will do my best in future to break things down even further.

So I will try again.

1) Gubba linked to race hate website that is trying to incite hatred against black people. (I assumed this was obvious, but perhaps it was not)

2) The website backed up its nebulous claims with a video very similar in nature to sort of thing my husbands schizophrenic niece posts when she is off her meds (I clarify here before you start shouting again, in NATURE, not in CONTENT. Hers are incoherent speeches on starving children in Africa).

3) I tried to point out that this video was obviously of that nature and not the start of some uprising against white people by black people as claimed by the article.

4) I assumed a basic level of understanding on your part and drew the obvious (to me) conclusion that the websites intent was to make white people afraid of black people. I summed this up in a concise sentence "and perhaps it is enough to make you and Gubba afraid of black people." implying that if you gave this website any credence then you were an idiot. Again, I made the mistake of thinking I was talking to someone who could understand this obvious conclusion.

5) What then happened is that you read that one sentence and as you obviously misunderstood the nature of the webiste, the video and my comments on it you started spewing a load of vitriol that had absolutely nothing to do with the point and starting ranting about your grandchildren. You are still doing this.

This makes me sad.

It also pretty much proves my point. The only possible reason that you would interpret the meaning of my sentence the way you did is if you did not see through the racist nature of the website.

You actually though they made a good point.

So here are your options Clyde.

1) A part of you thinks that the racist website has a point and that black people are about to rise up and kill white people.

That means that you took my sentence to mean that you are actually afraid of black people.


2) You are aware the website is racist and you realise that when I said "and perhaps it is enough to make you and Gubba afraid of black people." I was implying that "a rational non-racist person would not become afraid of black people because of a racist website" I assumed that you saw yourself as a non-racist person who would not start being afraid of black people because of a racist website.

So as you can see, the only way you could find insult in what I said was if you went for option number 1.
45) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1612101)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
'Mary Omni' believes it, and may act upon her beliefs.

Correct?

She may..and perhaps it is enough to make you and Gubba afraid of black people.

How is her hate filled bile and call to action different than the hate filled bile and call to action of ISIL or KKK?

Out of ISIL and KKK which group do you think has members or sympathisers in the police force? Or in American government? Or in business? or anywhere else where they might have influence in American society.

We aren't talking about extremist groups anyway. We were talking about the everyday racism that kills black people in America.
46) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1612099)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
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It doesn't matter, because you have allowed that there is an appropriate attire for work and obviously there is a culture that sets that attire. I'm reminded of a phrase; When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

I'll just answer this but quickly because it stood out as important and I am rather busy right now.

When in America, do as Americans do. Correct?

So who is American? The Native Americans? Because this concept of dressing in suits is not theirs. The African Americans? They've been in America as long as the Europeans. Yet for some reason you have decided that the suit is the correct and normal attire.

A White European suit.

This assumption of yours that White European culture is the "correct" and "normal" and by implication "superior" way of being is at the very heart of racism. You hinted at it when you pointed out the racist policeman claiming that black people reacted differently to choking than normal people.

So at least you understand that America considers White European culture as "normal"

What is it to be a Black American? Their normal was taken from them. You have no concept of how important things such as language, history, music etc are until they are gone. So now black americans must be "normal" to succeed. If they behave, and talk and act like white people they will be allowed into the "club". Of course they can never look like white people so they will never really quite be "normal".

So yes there is a dominant culture. You are absolutely correct. It is the white European culture...and you don't see anything wrong with demanding that everyone else bends to it because you think it is "normal"
47) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1612024)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Vid Link in text, I Listened to All of 'it', Prepare to be Sickened

Worse yet and more dangerous, a radical black activist, who calls herself, Mary Omni of the House of King David, produced a YouTube video spouting hate and promoting attacks against the Bosnians calling them “invaders” of land properly belonging to blacks. The 11-minute video titled, “Ferguson Bosnian Death Immigrant Warning" warns the Bosnians that more violence is coming and she states, “If an invader is killed, this is acceptable collateral damage. If I had a hammer, I would hammer in the morning and hammer in the night.”

Yep.

oh good grief. If you read that bile and believe it, no wonder you come out with such nonsense.

'Mary Omni' believes it, and may act upon her beliefs.

Correct?

She may..and perhaps it is enough to make you and Gubba afraid of black people...

If Mary had any position of power then you might be concerned...

Es99...

Your allegations, stating I am afraid of my Black Grandchildren, Black Son-In-Law, and Black People, is personal, hate-related, against The Rules, and most importantly - DISGUSTING.

However, unlike other's: I will never ever attempt to censor your Personal, Hate-Filled, Vile, and Evil attacks against me and others.

Your true nature is being exposed.

Sorry Clyde. I have no idea what you are talking about. Is that really what you think I was saying?

*sigh* I am not sure if you deliberately missed the point or if I was not being clear enough.

I have not attacked anyone here. I have pointed out certain trends and a fundamental lack of awareness about ones own subconscious behaviours and privilege. I was always aware that when I attempted to de-construct certain assumptions that it would upset people. That however is what happens when you try to push people from comfortable positions that support their world views, especially if those world views come at a cost to others.

What I am surprised at Clyde, is that you really have not had these conversations with your family and that you are so unaware that they will have totally different experiences and perceptions from you.

My pointing out that Mary's speech was being used to stir up fear that black people are going to start murdering white people in the streets is not by any stretch of the imagination an attack on you. However, you decided to make it all about you, and then drag your grandchildren out to hide behind. Having black grandchildren does not miraculously endow you with anti-racist powers. Having black grandchildren when you are white should mean that you do everything you can to find out about the issues that are going to effect those children, and do what you can to protect them. Denying these problems exist is about the worst thing you can do. I don't care if you listen to me, but I really think you should talk to your black relatives about these issues with an open mind.
48) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. #2 (Message 1611882)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
The answer is very simple Es99, start your own thread, then you can rant and rave as much as you like about your "ist"s and "ism"s to your heart's content. ;-)

Cheers.

Your little ";-)"s don't fool me any more, Wiggo. You've shown your true colours and I wasn't impressed.

It is your thread, and I am happy to remove anything regarding race from it. That will include the murder of Michael Brown that has sparked protests on race all across the US including Berkeley.
49) Message boards : Politics : Are you a psychopath? (Message 1611829)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
That was an interesting test, thanx Es:)

I came across it on another forum and I know from the evil thread it is a topic people find interesting.
50) Message boards : Politics : Make justice happen (Message 1611828)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
There is such a thing as international law though.

But there is no one who can enforce international law. At least, not unless countries enforce it themselves.

Which the US does not do.

No, they behave like a rogue state.
51) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1611798)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Vid Link in text, I Listened to All of 'it', Prepare to be Sickened

Worse yet and more dangerous, a radical black activist, who calls herself, Mary Omni of the House of King David, produced a YouTube video spouting hate and promoting attacks against the Bosnians calling them “invaders” of land properly belonging to blacks. The 11-minute video titled, “Ferguson Bosnian Death Immigrant Warning" warns the Bosnians that more violence is coming and she states, “If an invader is killed, this is acceptable collateral damage. If I had a hammer, I would hammer in the morning and hammer in the night.”

Yep.

oh good grief. If you read that bile and believe it, no wonder you come out with such nonsense.

'Mary Omni' believes it, and may act upon her beliefs.

Correct?

She may..and perhaps it is enough to make you and Gubba afraid of black people. However, the reality is that black people are more at risk from white people and have actual reason to be afraid of white people.

So shall will stick to what actually is rather than perceptions? There are people who are terrified of getting Ebola in America even though they are more at risk from their Christmas tree.

If Mary had any position of power then you might be concerned. For example if she held those views, was armed and sent to police a white area with the full backing of the government and the judicial system, you might have some sort of point. However, the reality is the opposite. She is a nut case who got a You Tube channel which a racist group then jumped on to use as "proof" that black people are coming to get them.

As to the comments about black youths murdering immigrants...well hatred of immigrants is the new norm in America right now, so its not exactly surprising is it?
52) Message boards : Politics : Make justice happen (Message 1611795)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Feinstein report: UN expert calls for prosecution of CIA officers and other US Government officials.

Why is George Walker Bush still on free foot?

Why? Simplest reason of all. He went to a lawyer and asked him what was legal. Doesn't matter if the lawyer is right or wrong. As long as you don't intend to break the law you are not guilty, mens rea.

There is such a thing as international law though.
53) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. #2 (Message 1611794)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I have no idea how it is possible to separate so many of these police killings from race, and I find it offensive that someone would insist on doing so.

The solution could be to move all discussion on Michael Brown and subsequent police murders of black men to the race thread.
54) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1611481)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Vid Link in text, I Listened to All of 'it', Prepare to be Sickened

Worse yet and more dangerous, a radical black activist, who calls herself, Mary Omni of the House of King David, produced a YouTube video spouting hate and promoting attacks against the Bosnians calling them “invaders” of land properly belonging to blacks. The 11-minute video titled, “Ferguson Bosnian Death Immigrant Warning" warns the Bosnians that more violence is coming and she states, “If an invader is killed, this is acceptable collateral damage. If I had a hammer, I would hammer in the morning and hammer in the night.”

Yep.

oh good grief. If you read that bile and believe it, no wonder you come out with such nonsense.
55) Message boards : Politics : Are you a psychopath? (Message 1611381)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Oh dear!
...

It doesn't mean you are going to go out and kill people. Maybe a career in politics would work for you? ;)
56) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1611380)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
According to the rules Fred set up back when I was a mod. You can talk about moderation. Just not specific moderator actions. Yes it it is fine line.
So Clyde I would just PM the mod list and ask why?

The 'Why' was directed towards Es99.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

You can message the mod list and find out why. The usual reason things are modded are that someone complained or that things were getting over heated.
57) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1610933)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor

Es99 Also, and Breaks Them Constantly.


Actually, I generally don't. What I do notice is how many people take me disagreeing with them as insulting (perception?) while they themselves hurl actual personal insults.

You will also find that I am the person least likely to mod you. So be grateful that I am such a wonderfully tolerant person. If I do remove your posts then you really have crossed the line and you might want to take that under consideration next time you feel hard done by.

With that in mind, any further complaints in this thread about moderation will be removed.

Have a lovely day.
58) Message boards : Politics : Are you a psychopath? (Message 1610930)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Es99 -- "The Wisdom of Psychopaths", by Kevin Dutton. I've read his book.
It does say that most psychopaths are not anti-social; rather, they are
much valued in society, e.g., world-famous surgeons, founders/CEO's of
companies, astronauts, etc. Examples of them were, also, given.

An fascinating and informative read.

I used to think that psychopaths were like the movie serial killers until I discovered my ex was one. He certainly fits the bill, but as far as I am aware he is more likely to lie and claim he killed someone than to actually kill someone.

I find the subject so fascinating because I was so completely taken in by him. I just didn't see it coming. Even today I am not entirely sure I know much about him despite living together for over 10 years, because he lied so much about everything.
59) Message boards : Politics : Are you a psychopath? (Message 1610928)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
100 Percent Yep.

And Proud of 'it'.

Yep.

' '

Much as I'm sure you'd like us to believe that, I've known psychopaths and I don't think you are one.

[edit] I could be wrong because psychopaths really are wonderful at misrepresenting themselves, in the short term at least.
60) Message boards : Politics : Are you a psychopath? (Message 1610915)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Take the test. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/psychopath-night

I scored 24%

"You are warm and empathic with a heightened awareness of social responsibility and a strong sense of conscience. You like to carefully weigh up the pros and cons of a situation before you act and are generally averse to taking risks. You are very much a ‘people person’ and dislike conflict. ‘Do unto others…’ are your watchwords. But, although you avoid hurting others, those residing at the higher end of the psychopathic spectrum might not be as considerate, so stay vigilant to avoid being hurt unnecessarily."


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