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41) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682874)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Was it her money?

I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.


NO it was not her money

And don't you think it mite have been better to give it to a women refuge to help those women that have been in bad relationships with wife bashers ??? And highlight that , domestic violence .

Seems a bit silly seeing as there must be more than 100,000 women , in Sweden .And earn what amounts to about 50 cents a day less than a man .!

Yet her protest got more attention and discussion than that would have. Are you aware how much advertising costs? She easily got her money's worth.
42) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682872)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Yes I did, did you?

From the wikipedia entry you posted:

Individuals who were present said that no one burned a bra nor did anyone take off her bra.


and
Author and feminist Bonnie J. Dow suggested that the association between feminism and bra-burning was encouraged by individuals who opposed the feminist movement. "Bra-burning" created an image that women weren't really seeking freedom from sexism, but were attempting to assert themselves as sexual beings. This might lead individuals to believe, as she wrote in her article "Feminism, Miss America, and Media Mythology," that the women were merely trying to be "trendy, and to attract men."[22][23][24][25][26]

Women associated with an act like symbolically burning their bra may be seen by some as law-breaking radicals, eager to shock the public. This view may have supported the efforts of opponents to feminism and their desire to invalidate the movement.[27] Since then anti-feminists have used "bra burning" and "braless"[28] to attempt to trivialize the feminist movement.[11]
(my emphasis).

From the second link:

People say that very few women actually burned their bras,
To be honest I don't think anyone did. I point you back to the quote from you wikipedia article: "...that the association between feminism and bra-burning was encouraged by individuals who opposed the feminist movement."

So every time I hear you go on about bra burning, not only do I know the bias of your sources, I also know where you stand on the feminist movement. It gives a very strong impression that your views are sexist.
43) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682749)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Was it her money?
I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.

No:) The notes, thrown on to a barbecue, had been donated by an advertising Agency
Gudrun is a politician with a lot of humour and liked by every opponents:)

It looks like her point was well made. :)
44) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682745)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Your problem is that you intensely dislike anyone who disparages Britain.

Guilty

Since when was national pride a crime???

When continuing to stand proudly knowing that something is seriously wrong. I'm proud of Britain & always have been, unfortunately there is no pride towards those that govern.

It's also a "crime" when that pride leads to racist comments with a "superior" attitude.

+1
45) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682744)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Here is Another very strong woman and with lots of humours:)
She doesn't burn bras.
Gudrun Schyman from the Feminist Initiative burn 10,000 euros in Almedalen in 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudrun_Schyman#Founder_of_the_Feminist_Initiative

I wonder how much food, heat & blankets that 10,000 would have purchased?

Sometimes do-gooders do more harm than good.

Sigh...
Both I and her live in the same country.
We don't lack food, heat and blankets:)
Political parties are not doing Charity...
And 10,000 euros is the average prize to live in a house per year here.

Was it her money?

I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.
46) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682638)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I'll consider my question answered.

If you wish to do so, you have the freedom to assume that, if it is what you want. As I keep saying I try to avoid confrontations with you, but you seem to want to encourage it. I'll leave others to decide why.

And very much against my better judgement, I'll name some strong women that I like very much, which are the panellists on the UK programme "Loose Women". They are all for female liberation and equal rights, but they don't wring their hands in despair or march on the streets. I would consider it a privilege to have dinner with any one of them.

Loose women

Bra burning

Bras 1

Bras 2

Both those links say bra burning never happened. Did you read them?
47) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682635)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
What happens when you don't see colour

48) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682213)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
..but do tell us what you define as rampant Women Liberation people and what they have done that you take issue. I am curious. Do you know any other names apart from Germaine Greer?

Is it 1st wave or 2nd wave feminism you take issue with? Which feminist leaders are bothering you in particular? What is the actual message (I mean what they have actually said and done, not what you think they've done, remember, the whole bra burning thing never happened) that you don't agree with?

Let's have an actual discussion here rather than the general "I don't like them" comments you keep making.

First off, I have been away for three days on matters rather more important than this issue here.

Can we also just remember that this is not a court of law, None of us are in the dock, and you are not the prosecuting counsel. I have been around for far too long to fall for your ploy of inviting me to stick my head in a lions mouth, so you can have the pleasure of biting it off. I don't have to justify myself to you, fact.

I just wanted to know if you knew what you were talking about. I'll consider my question answered.
49) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681936)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Well nothing, which is why we are so baffled that it is being used to discredit her as a feminist. Don't you think it is a little weird that in a conversation about what a terrible feminist she is, no one has brought up anything about her actual feminism?


Ess i have not said she is a terrible feminist and that's why most here hate her i have siad some don't because of her views . But i'll keep telling you i don't like her as she is a lier and publicity grabber and it's the way and things she does to get her notoriety that i hate her for and so do most others .

That's nice, Glenn, but as this conversation was actually supposed to be about her feminist views, then you can see how you've gone off track a little.
50) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681918)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor

your words so please explain what Steve Erwin has to do with Feminist cause ?

Well nothing, which is why we are so baffled that it is being used to discredit her as a feminist. Don't you think it is a little weird that in a conversation about what a terrible feminist she is, no one has brought up anything about her actual feminism?

On a lighter note, here is an amusing, totally unrelated article, about stock photos.


7 Bizarre Gender Stereotypes You Always See In Stock Photos
51) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681820)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
...Erwin...
It has been reported in the press that in early 2000, Greer claimed at a press gathering in London that she never set foot in Australia before receiving the permission of the "traditional owners of the land" at Sydney Airport. New South Wales Aboriginal Land Council spokesman Paul Molloy was reported as claiming that she had never asked permission, despite visiting Sydney several times in recent years, and in any case there was no single group of elders that could give such permission to enter Australia


as i said a lier just seeking publicity anyway she can

I don't really care about Steve Irwin, I am aware he was the crocodile wrestler of the Australian people's hearts, but the guy got killed doing some thing he knew was risky. Its sad, but not surprising.

However, it literally has absolutely nothing to do with Feminist bashing, although it has clearly become an excuse to do so.

As to your story about the Aboriginal claim, from what I can see is she made that statement and one Aboriginal who has no authority to give permission on behalf of the Aboriginal people says she didn't ask him. Its hardly scandal of the year and sounds more like the media is trying to stir up hatred against her.

Now ask yourself what is so frightening about Germaine Greer to the Status Quo that people go out of their way to do smear her at every opportunity? We know that Australia is a pretty sexist country, we saw your former Prime Minster, Julia Gillard, lay in the opposition about that very problem. Do you think your media is less sexist than your current Prime Minister?

And lets see Julia's speech again because it is so awesome: Julia Gillard's misogyny speech

Australia was so outraged at Tony Abbotts misogyny that you voted him in for Prime Minister. So tell me again how much you hate Germaine Greer.
52) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1681796)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
...

As most everyone who posts here is very far removed from the ghetto and attitudes of the ghetto it can be very hard to understand how much depression and lack of self worth is in that attitude. You might ask yourself why it was called the Great Depression and if that might have anything to do with the ghetto

...

Speak for yourself. I lived and worked in the ghetto for nearly 20 years. I had these issues up in my face on a daily basis.

The UK never had a Great Depression, but it certainly has racism.
53) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681795)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Nothing wrong with the figures but however it doesn't tell you how many people are in that area does it .

considering there are not many people up that way the risk is high . You would have more chance of getting eaten by a crock than a shark . There are millions of us in the ocean each day but only a few people get mauled by sharks . So by comparison if there was as many people up in the top end you would see dozens of people get killed .

Anyway good your don't wish to come here you need to grow up a bit more a child that thinks he knows all .

And you seem to not be able to read . I DID SAY IF THEY DID NOT RELOCATE AS MANY AS THEY DO YOU WOULD SEE those numbers go way up .

50 per year are moved from Darwin harbour alone . If they did not move them a lot of people would be killed as it's right next to the dam city of Darwin . which has 127,000 people

Her quote and Steve Irwin have absolutely nothing to do with Feminism. I thought the problem people had with Germaine Greer was her feminism, yet all the criticisms seem to be character assassination rather than about her feminism.

So to get actually on topic, what of her feminist stances do people actually have problems with? Мишель has already raised the issue about her stance on transgendered people.

Anything else or is all about crocodiles?
54) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cats (Message 1681606)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
My son just called me in from the garden to say a bird had got in the house. I am pretty sure it was something the cat bought into play with. I managed to wrap the poor thing in a tea towel and set it free in the bushes away from the house to give it a good head start from kitty. I hope it was only frightened and not too badly hurt. It did fly off.
55) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681598)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
So tell me, who doesn't like Germaine Greer besides you, Wiggo and Chris S, all males I believe?


Well Julie Bishop shut her up not long ago so try this article

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/qa-panellist-germaine-greer-shut-down-by-julie-bishop-after-shocking-bali-nine-question-20150310-13zj5p.html

I wish she would just bugger off and don't come back

Sorry Glenn, the story you posted doesn't have much to do with your claim.

A panel discussion and shock horror these women don't all have the same opinion on something. The women on the panel all seemed to be having a reasonable discussion. What has that got to do with women supposedly disliking Germaine Greer?
56) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681505)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I have always been for female equality in all areas of life, but I don't believe that rampant Women Liberation people and groups are the best way to go about it. Germaine Greer did the world a favour by doing what Hev said, bringing the matter to our attention. She courts disfavour and animosity by her way of dealing with it. There are better role models.

Yes, I've seen your list of female 'role' models. Although I don't agree with everything Germaine says, I agree with enough to think she makes a better role model than anyone on your list.

..but do tell us what you define as rampant Women Liberation people and what they have done that you take issue. I am curious. Do you know any other names apart from Germaine Greer?

Is it 1st wave or 2nd wave feminism you take issue with? Which feminist leaders are bothering you in particular? What is the actual message (I mean what they have actually said and done, not what you think they've done, remember, the whole bra burning thing never happened) that you don't agree with?

Let's have an actual discussion here rather than the general "I don't like them" comments you keep making.
57) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681280)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Ess just don't mention her name to a Australian you may just get a punch in the nose for it .

No one is going to punch me in the nose, Glenn.
58) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681275)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Ah yes, Germaine Greer.

I remember her well. Being abused and spat on by many other Aussie women in the streets (the real reason that she had to leave these shores, not because of us men) because they blamed her, and her vinegar crew (the name given to them by other women), for setting back the Women's Equality Movement at that time by years because of their over the top militant and controversial Women's Liberation views.

The Women's Equality Movement (a very large peaceful group) wanted nothing at all to do with the Women's Liberation Movement (an extremely small aggressive group) and they were very vocal about (in fact there were many altercations between the 2 groups).

The 60's in Sydney were certainly very entertaining with the cat fights on the streets.

These days she only pays us very short occasional visits because a lot of women here still feel the same way about her now as they did back then and she always seems to get caught out lying on those visits by those she claims to be helping.

Cheers.

Not all Australian women apparently: Loved or hated, but still Germaine

There are some things that Germaine Greer says I agree with and some I don't. What I do is respect her for changing the rules for the debate and for the work she did do for the women's movement.

Like all human beings, she is not all good and not all bad. I don't think she deserves the vitriol and contempt that she gets.
59) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1681266)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor

So 160+ years after slavery ended now the freed slave wants to reclaim their African first name? What about their surname? Last I checked humans don't live 160+ years. No, this is about parents and black is beautiful movement, a somewhat recent development.

Gary, since I've been told by many black people this is the reason for the strange names, I am going to go with what they say about it rather than your theory.

Oh, as to those Asians and their names, what the professor doesn't know, because it isn't on his roll sheet, is they mostly have Asian middle name(s). Their parents just chose to give their children a given name that will allow them success in the culture of the USA.

Well this 'professor' talks to her asian students and the names are often chosen by the student. They get frustrated with trying to get white people to say their names properly. My work colleague has a beautiful asian name, but she uses and Anglicised version because it is easier for white people to say and spell. At least that is what she tells me. If you want I can tell her that Gary from the internet says she is wrong about her name.


Absolutely, but you need to define innate better. To DNA no. To black culture yes.

However this is the catch 22. Education is the answer to the problem of black poverty. Your words, blacks distrust it. In essence you are saying that black poverty will continue until black attitudes change.

Or until white attitudes change and we do something to make reparations and rebuild the trust we broke.
60) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1681230)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DUKE_PROFESSOR_CRITICISM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- A Duke University professor criticized for an online post comparing blacks and Asians said Monday that it's not racist to discuss what he sees as differences in how the groups have performed in the U.S. over the past few decades.
...
In his online comments, Hough wrote that Asians have been described as "yellow races" and faced discrimination in 1965 at least as bad as blacks experienced. Of Asian-Americans, he wrote: "They didn't feel sorry for themselves, but worked doubly hard."

The posting goes on to say: "I am a professor at Duke University. Every Asian student has a very simple old American first name that symbolizes their desire for integration. Virtually every black has a strange new name that symbolizes their lack of desire for integration."

hmmm..I guess he is unaware of the fact that black americans had their african names stolen from the them because of slavery and were given white names by their white owners and took the slave masters surnames. This is why they make up their own names, its not about being different. Its about trying to regain some dignity after the forced assimilation of slavery.

The claim that one ethnicity is cleverer of stupider than anther has shown to be false on many occasions and any such claims are racist. What Asian students have is respect for teachers and education. Many black students have a justifiable distrust of the educational institutions and teachers. Its not something that is innate. It is due to history.


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