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21) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1718774)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile Es99
Oh, its always nice to meet Annie.

She's a lovely lady and it was very nice to see her.
22) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1718755)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile Es99
I'm on a flying visit to London and managed to fit in a lovely afternoon with a certain lady who has been known to frequent the politics forum.




Thank you Anniet for taking the trouble to come and meet up with me.
23) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718722)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile Es99
So, next, does Chris (or anyone else) care to know why I think 40 somethings or transitioning viewpoint 40 somethings will be hard to find here?

Yes please.


First, remember that before 2008, the posting community here was more diverse and vibrant. It has never fully bounced back.

Second, I have been trying to see both sides since at least age 23, so there's little to no transitioning occurring. Bobby says essentially the same for himself. I doubt Es is transitioning much. 272902 says he sees little transitioning in himself or others.

The old maxims may no longer be holding. The reasons given by Michel and others may also explain why some 40somethings think as they do and are not transitioning to become more conservative as they age.

What exactly is meant by transitioning? I have definitely become more left wing as I have grown older and wiser. I think Tami makes some very valid points in that the reason someone doesn't like young people gathering is most likely because of fear.


In the context of this discussion, I think Chris first brought up the term and I think it is pretty clear he means moving from one side of the political spectrum to the other side, by whatever degree. Becoming more left wing, then, would not fit in this theory of transitions Chris has but rather seems to be one example in favor of my point. I think Bobby's making the same point.

Chris, can we then take Es as counterpoint to your female relative? We're back to 0 to 0, then; i.e., single examples do not provide proof.

Anecdotal evidence is never going to be proof (in the sense of mathematical proof, however large samples of anecdotal evidence can be sufficient when dealing with non-mathematical areas such as human interaction). Its not even possible to assume that because you are surrounded by people who think like you that you represent a majority or a 'norm' because we tend to surround ourselves with people who think like us.

That is often the reason people get so upset when posting on seti and coming across points of view totally oppostie to theirs that they would never normally come across. Some peole can find it quite distressing when they realise they are not the sole keeper of the 'correct' world view.
24) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718696)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile Es99
So, next, does Chris (or anyone else) care to know why I think 40 somethings or transitioning viewpoint 40 somethings will be hard to find here?

Yes please.


First, remember that before 2008, the posting community here was more diverse and vibrant. It has never fully bounced back.

Second, I have been trying to see both sides since at least age 23, so there's little to no transitioning occurring. Bobby says essentially the same for himself. I doubt Es is transitioning much. 272902 says he sees little transitioning in himself or others.

The old maxims may no longer be holding. The reasons given by Michel and others may also explain why some 40somethings think as they do and are not transitioning to become more conservative as they age.

What exactly is meant by transitioning? I have definitely become more left wing as I have grown older and wiser. I think Tami makes some very valid points in that the reason someone doesn't like young people gathering is most likely because of fear.
25) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1717832)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile Es99
Yesterday was my 10 year Seti-versary! Doesn't time fly when you are having fun?
26) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cats (Message 1716500)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Es99
Bubba the Cat Is a Wonderful Student
27) Message boards : Politics : Hey! You Gots Dat Shipment Packed Stacked and Ready to Go? (Message 1716495)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Es99
What's with America and abortion , I thought this was settled decades ago ...

Tell the christian's and catholic's to bugger off .

Back to coat hangers and woman dying

it's the 21st Century fer "F"'s sake

+100


Also, I really doubt Americans are being forced to watch abortions, because if they were watching actual abortions there would be more understanding of the procedure and less hysteria (no pun intended).

Its amazing how freaked out these right wing nut jobs get about anything do with women and how little they actually know about it.
28) Message boards : Politics : Hey! You Gots Dat Shipment Packed Stacked and Ready to Go? (Message 1716207)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99
State inquiries into Planned Parenthood turn up no evidence of wrongdoing

This thread would be better named "The Republican War Against Women" seeing as the fake videos are now being used as an excuse to not fund women's health services.
29) Message boards : Politics : Vote Canada!!....Good news! (Message 1716204)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99
Harper supporter's profane rant brings out all of the memes

Warning: Strong language.
30) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1716016)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99
This thread is beginning to get real personal, so a question: - Why isn't it locked for a cooldown?

Has anyone hit a red-X?

Too much fun watching a train wreck in super slo mo?

In any case it has done one good thing. It has got the Brits out of the USA specific politics threads and given them something to carp about in their own system!

Some topics are apparently more emotive than others.

It is a surprise to me, I can assure you.
31) Message boards : Politics : The British Royal Family (Message 1716013)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99
If all you are going to do is play the personal insult card every time somebody says something that you don't happen to agree with, or you just don't like, then there is no basis for continuing adult conversation.

I consider something a personal insult when you use information about me to make a point rather than using the facts.

Some examples might be, using my background, my history, my way of thinking, my education, my family etc etc

Every time you make your argument about me rather than the subject you are making it personal. I am sure you are quite able to argue about the topic without making it about me, but for some reason you chose time and time again not to.

As to your claim that you wouldn't post personal information about me, as you have not exactly been yourself lately and you have in the past posted things about me that were not in the public domain, I am not altogether sure about what you will do any more.

If you do not want to be considered as attacking the person, rather than the message, I suggest you review your posts to make sure that you are actually not attacking the person. If you post something that relies on personal (relating to the person, not necessarily private) information that they have not bought up in that discussion, then you are making the argument personal.

If for example, we are discussing the royal family and I mention that I am (for example) a member of the royal family, then its probably ok to then discuss my membership of the royal family. If for example we are discussing teaching, and I have mentioned that I know about this subject because I am a teacher, then fair enough. As long as you don't say things like "you shouldn't be a teacher because you don't agree with me" etc. Then that is ok.

To bring up my history and background out of the blue in this discussion is a personal attack rather than an discussion about the topic. To ask personal questions about my background is a personal attack and not about the subject.

I will clarify for you. I am not a member of the royal family, although I do have a close friend who is (there, I bought that up, you can now bring that up in future arguments on this topic as long as you are respectful about them, although I may chose not to answer), so other than that there is absolutely no reason to mention my background at all. None. The minute you do you are making it about me, and not about the royal family.

I really hope that clears it up for you.
32) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1716006)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Es99
People here seem to enjoy bringing my personal life into this discussion.

Now that's rich coming from the person that 1st crossed that "line that should have never been crossed" in the 1st place.

Then you complain about "personal attacks" (sounds a lot like Clyde does these days) when a lot of your posts are just that (see above comment), and when not they look just like they come from your typical "know it all, know nothing" school yard bully.

I find it also very funny that when you've backed yourself into a corner Hev turns up to try and pull you out (that pattern repeats itself constantly and is also very predictable), you never see Hev otherwise.

You expect others to abide by 1 rule, but you act/think like that rule doesn't apply to you.

And all this from someone who would be expected to set a good example to others and not a bad 1's?

Well suck it up and stop complaining as you are the 1 responsible for it in the 1st place so live with it.

Cheers.

I hope the irony of your post is not lost on you. You only come in this this thread to make a criticism, of the person, not about the topic? You even throw in an insult to Hev while you are at.

I assume you are referring to the time that Clyde bought up his mixed race children and black family members in a conversation about race to prove he wasn't racist and the freaked out when we talked about them? You will observe that I am not in the habit of making personal comments about people unless they introduce that information as part of the discussion.

If I had bought up my children to make a point about the paparazzi I might think you had a point. I didn't bring them up.
33) Message boards : Politics : The British Royal Family (Message 1715738)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
Westminster child sex abuse claims: missing pieces remain in inquiry jigsaw

It is strongly suspected that one of the reasons the original investigation was shut down was because there were members of the royal family involved.

Royal family member was investigated as part of paedophile ring before cover-up, ex-cop says
34) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715728)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
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They will always be fine? On what do you base this prediction? How's the former royal family of France doing?

There was a reason they ended up as they did. A very good reason.
35) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715726)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
Despite a certain poster's questionable posting style over the past few months or so, said poster is not entirely wrong when calling you out on your own posting style. While I wish to continue considering you a friend, do please think how it comes across asking someone if he knows Diana is dead sounds.

..and I'd say think how it sounds when you compare my children to the royal children, especially knowing my dislike for the royal family. Not cool. I do also wish to continue calling you a friend, but when I think of the lives of my children compared with those of royal children it leaves a really nasty taste in my mouth. I did not bring them up in this conversation and they deserve better than being compared to the royal children.
(Like many, I can recall where I was, what I was doing, etc. ... when I learned of her death, just as I recall learning about the two space shuttle disasters and 9/11.)

You can't even imagine what if felt like in London. I went up to Kensington Palace and despite my dislike of the royal family, the sadness was catching.

Now, to topic: you didn't object to my pointing out Diana's charitable activities, only that she's now dead. Without further elaboration, may I then take it you had some degree of respect for Diana at least because of her charity work?

Diana never really belonged properly in the royal family. She was used by the institution and I would consider her more of a victim.

If so, then please consider Exhibit B.

Many people here on seti even do a lot of work for charity. Why aren't you making a fuss about their work?

Also note that I have not commented, at all, about what I believe regarding whether any country should still have a monarchy. You can probably guess what I think about that, though. My posts, though, question your dehumanization of them.

I suggest you learn a little about the British Class system and how pervasive and destructive it is. I suggest you learn a bit about how the royals represent that class system and what it means to those of us who are born to the peasant class. I also suggest you learn about the symbiotic relationship between the media, the paparazzi and the politicians and how they all are part of the perpetuation of the British Class system.

They do not see us as human. I promise you.
36) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1715672)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
Parties you side with...

84% Republicans
71% Libertarians
70% Democrats
69% Constitution Party
65% Green Party
51% Socialist

Every Party - Over 50%

Candidates you side with...

81% Rand Paul
78% Scott Walker
77% Mike Huckabee
76% Jeb Bush
75% Marco Rubio
73% Donald Trump
72% Ted Cruz
70% Chris Christie
69% Rick Perry
68% Rick Santorum
68% Lindsey Graham
68% Hillary Clinton
66% Ben Carson
65% Bernie Sanders
65% Carly Fiorina
62% Bobby Jindal
56% Martin O'Malley
51% John Kasich

Every Candidate - Over 50%

Two thoughts:

#1 - Everyone is 50% correct. It is the 50%, where they are wrong, which counts.

#2 - As I have repeatedly stated, with no understanding from the Left Wing: Yes I mostly agree with the Left Wing, regarding the foundations of our problems. It is the foundation of their failed solutions, which I disagree.

BTW: The same applies, for subtlety different reasons, to Paul, Huckabee, Trump, Cruz.

Interesting contortions with statistics there, Clyde.

What it actually shows is that you are right wing as we all knew, and not centrist as you claim.
37) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715671)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
C'mon Sarge, Hawking is pretty well respected.


In the context of the rest of the thread, the reason for posting that link is clear.

At least Hawking has done something of merit to earn the public attention.

edit:and I don't mean nearly run Gary over.


And now to completely destroy your point of being worthless: http://www.dianaexhibition.com/diana/charity-work.

You do know she's dead, right?
38) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715580)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
C'mon Sarge, Hawking is pretty well respected.


In the context of the rest of the thread, the reason for posting that link is clear.

At least Hawking has done something of merit to earn the public attention.

edit:and I don't mean nearly run Gary over.
39) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1715452)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
97% Bernie Sanders.
87% Hillary Clinton.

2% Ted Cruz (why so high?)

and surprisingly 13% Donald Trump. How did that happen?
40) Message boards : Politics : Africa (Message 1715431)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Es99
I see Mr S has yet to put in an appearance.

I do hope all is well with Pettra? I am looking forward to her next post tremendously.

Me too.


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