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21) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1589349)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
These same people, however, in addition to verbally abusing women, do so to other men as well. Especially if the man is a n00b (new to the game, without a clear understanding of how to play it yet).

No, thats the point, they don't do it to men, they do it to n00bs. That is a specific player group which consists of both genders. The thing is, once those n00bs are no longer n00bs the abuse stops, while if the player is a women, the abuse continues regardless of her skill level.

On top of that, the sort of abuse n00bs and women receive is different. While n00bs are just insulted for their perceived ineptitude to play the game 'correctly' women suffer from a much more vicious kind of abuse. They get constantly asked to show their boobs, have sex with other players, get to enjoy the tales of what said players would do them if they met in real life (all of it sexual) and if the women does not respond nicely enough or ends up owning the other player because shes better at the game, they can expect an inbox filled with rape and death threats.

Now I don't approve of abusive behavior by players towards other players, I think its toxic for the community, I have to admit that the kind of abuse most n00bs receive is comparatively benign compared to the kind of abuse women receive.

Having been on the receiving end of abuse on gaming sites I can vouch for this. A lot of women prefer to keep their gender anonymous on gaming sites for obvious reasons. I often do. Unless you point out otherwise it is assumed you are male, much like the seti boards where the default gender is also male. I suspect (and actually know) that there are more female posters here than a lot of you realise. They have good reason for wanting to keep quiet about it.

Even here on seti I was the victim of a similar hate campaign as Anita Sarkeesian was when she started making her videos. What happened to her was way worse (quite probably because the number of people involved was larger, not because the vitriol was any less), but there were startling similarities. The hate campaign started for me when I pointed out that a long running thread was actually very sexist. That is all I did, point it out. I took no further action except voice an opinion. That was enough to start a long running hate campaign that got so out of hand that I did report it to the police.

So I totally believe her as this latest event is just the latest thing that has happened to her.

BTW. No one believed me either for a long time. Which is also typical of how woman who complain about these things are treated. So I find Gary's attitude depressing, but not surprising.

Fortunately because of my persistence and the persistence of others, the ethos of the seti forums has changed and is no longer the misogynistic haven it used to be. There is an admin in place who understands these issues and I can post my opinion without getting abusive emails and posts and I don't have to worry that there will be threats made against me and my family just because I dare to voice an opinion on a message board that people don't agree with.

So do I think the threats where genuine against Anita Sarkeesian? Absolutely. 100%

If it can happen here on seti why on earth is it so implausible that it can't happen on a larger scale elsewhere?
22) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1589157)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
"the comments about any article about feminism justify feminism" - Lewis' Law

Anyone taking an absolute position is absolutely wrong.

Anyone who thinks that making death threats against a woman because she is giving a talk about the way women are represented in video games isn't misogyny is absolutely wrong.

You are assuming there was a threat, several of us smell a fifthly publicity stunt.

I've been following the work of this woman long enough to know that what you think reflects very poorly on you right now.
23) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1589031)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
"the comments about any article about feminism justify feminism" - Lewis' Law

Anyone taking an absolute position is absolutely wrong.

Anyone who thinks that making death threats against a woman because she is giving a talk about the way women are represented in video games isn't misogyny is absolutely wrong.

Luckily everyone seems to have happily ignored that point, one suspects quite wilfully.


Making a death threat against someone is WRONG, no matter what the gender(s) involved.

I question the truthfulness of her claim that death threats against her in this case were made. All we have is her word that they were.

Post a link to the police report where she REPORTED said threats to the police, and I will change my position.

Until then, didn't happen. Publicity stunt.

Yes, I know that women playing computer games do suffer verbal abuse from jerks from time to time. When I see it happen while playing MMORPGs, I usually just enter the offending player on my ignore list. A time or two, it was so dreadfully bad that I reported it to the game staff. They usually take a VERY dim view of it, and frequently it is about the easiest way to get 'permabanned' from the game.

These same people, however, in addition to verbally abusing women, do so to other men as well. Especially if the man is a n00b (new to the game, without a clear understanding of how to play it yet).

Do NOT assume that my objection to that woman's case is misogyny. It isn't.
Your assumption about my statements can be interpreted as misandry, which is just as much 'hate-speech' as misogyny.

The day I try to shut you up with tactics that have a history of being used to shut up men in a most negative way is the day you can call misandry.

Your claims that the woman is only doing it for attention can be filed with many other sexist methods of silencing women who complain about their treatment. Just because you feel so obliviously entitled to use those methods doesn't make them less sexist. It just proves how embedded such behaviour is in the culture.
24) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1589014)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
"the comments about any article about feminism justify feminism" - Lewis' Law

Anyone taking an absolute position is absolutely wrong.

Anyone who thinks that making death threats against a woman because she is giving a talk about the way women are represented in video games isn't misogyny is absolutely wrong.

Luckily everyone seems to have happily ignored that point, one suspects quite wilfully.
25) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1588918)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Don't give me that CROCK about her 'free speech' was denied. She exercised her Free Speech rights QUITE effectively when she announced she was not going to give her talk because of the threat. Her backing out on the talk probably did MORE to advance her cause than giving her talk would have.

Are you kidding me? So I guess then that the people in China and Russia also have free speech when openly criticizing their governments results in jail time.

Be honest here, if you are threatened with rape, death and then some more rape if you give a lecture about something, then your free speech is infringed. The threat of brutal violence forces you to be silent. Thats how it works in repressive authoritarian regimes, and thats how its here.

Women are the majority in gaming culture.

No they are not. They represent just slightly less than 50% of the people that play game, and they are sorely underrepresented when it comes to the actual developers within the games industry, as well as the gaming press. And within the games itself its even worse.

Now that said...

The perp that made the threat needs to be located, arrested, and put on trial.

I don't know the Utah law, but I presume it is somewhat similar to Texas law on the subject.

In Texas, 'making a terroristic threat' is a crime.

On this we agree.

But then, I am cynical enough to have suspicions that she arranged the threat, just for the publicity.

Why is everyone giving her such a hard time? The woman has been repeatedly threatened with some of the most horrible things imaginable, from getting raped to death, but everytime it happens, the first response I hear is that 'shes faking it for attention'. If this would have happened to a guy no one would even dare say such a thing.

"the comments about any article about feminism justify feminism" - Lewis' Law
26) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1588916)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Good points. We are all responsible for our own mistakes, but who is held responsible when those mistakes are caused by others interfering or manipulating us?

Ourselves?


They should be held responsible but when they have more 'power' than you, we're talking about fighting a losing battle.

You have to understand. 'The Power' in many of these Country's is Their Own Ruling Class. Who are Extremely Rich and Powerful by STEALING from their own people.

Take Mexico, as an example. Just ONE Change in Their Constitution: Allowing non-Mexican Companies and People to BUY and OWN Land/Factories within Mexico - WITHOUT a Mexican Partner - would result in an Economic Boom for the People. But THEIR Ruling Class will not allow this. A rich population would eventually kick out/kill these bums.

The USA is not The Only Power.

So the problem is the governments that they have? and my point that the US has a habit of installing the governments it wants rather than the democratically elected ones has nothing to do with it.

Ok. Got it.
27) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1588915)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Oh Clyde. How lovely your bubble must be to live in.

Hmmm. You are always wrong about others.

Bubble?

Es99....

Let's see. Visited In-Laws many times in Argentina. Argentinian born Wife owns Vineyards in Argentina (Please buy their wine - it is the best). Also owns home in Buenos Aries (Lovely City, visited many times). Visited Chile, Venezuela, Columbia, Brazil, Honduras many times. Loved Mexico, especially The Yucatan, while inspecting The Mayan Pyramids.

In addition: Lived in Havana Cuba for one year, as a boy, pre-Fidel.

Mi español es muy bueno!

How do you know about the People, Culture and Governments of that region? From books? Movies? TV Shows? Who's living in a bubble?

Of course you never really respond, when you understand the silliness, and worse of treating Non-European/American People as Children. Who cannot be held responsible for Their mistakes.

Again: Why are THEY not responsible for THEIR Mistakes?

So here I am making the point that South America is not a continent that solely relies on the drugs trade (as claimed by Chris s.) and that any instability is actually NOT caused by the drug trade.

You go on to tell me how wrong I am by describing all your lovely trips to South America.

I can only assume that if you think I am wrong then you must have been buying drugs down there.

So Clyde? Am I wrong? Are you in fact in league with the drug cartels?
28) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1588914)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
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But then, I am cynical enough to have suspicions that she arranged the threat, just for the publicity.

Ahhh..you are saying she was asking for it and brought it on herself.

Now where have we heard that argument before?


NO. I am saying that, since the publicity of the threat has done SO much to publicize her cause (way more that just giving the speech would have), there is at least the POSSIBILITY that she directly requested someone to send her the threat, or paid someone to do so, or sent it herself.

Its not really about her gender at this point, but her (potential or actual) profit from the incident.

The question then is was this particular "threat" reported to the police. If so and it was a fake threat, then the act of reporting it was a criminal offense. If it wasn't reported, then it is reasonable to assume that it was a fake threat or a publicity stunt, in which case the venue should bring civil charges of fraud against the speaker for never intending on making the speech.

Of course there is the possibility that the threat was real but the speaker knew threats would be made and set the entire incident up as a publicity stunt.

BTW no one prevented her from speaking. Only her own irrational fears of lawful background checked persons -- did I just describe police officers?! -- prevented her. Her choice.

Irrational fear?
Sure..its not like someone hasn't shot up a university before because they hate women.

http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categories/society/crime-justice/the-montreal-massacre/gunman-massacres-14-women.html

Huh, how can people be so irrational to be afraid of that?

Gary, you are so damn offensive sometimes it just boggles my mind.
29) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1588864)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Next, I stand by my assertion that South America is a collection of unstable states supported by a global drug trade. I have not heard any solid evidence to say otherwise so far.

Nor have you produced any evidence to support your claim. Sorry, but youre the one making the claims here, the burden of proof lies with you. Show us evidence that South American states are A) unstable and B) mostly reliant on international drug trade, meaning that the profits of any drug trade go straight into the government coffers and not into the pocket of a few drug lords who are beyond the law.

The Drug Lords are 'Paying Off' The Authority's, to continue their trade.

It is an Unholy Alliance.

Yes, many of these Country's are Unstable. However... The Drug Trade is not the Major Economic Stimulus for these Country's.

True.

...and they are unstable because the US has a deliberate policy of keeping them that way.

Can you stop? Answer - No.

Understand some person's believe that they can not be held responsible for THEIR own mistakes. Very disgusting philosophy.

I believe These Country's, and Peoples, should be held to the same standards regarding mistakes as The USA, and Western Europe Country's/Peoples.

Other Peoples/Country's doing them wrong: Does not absolve them of their responsibility for THEIR conditions. They are not children. Don't treat them as children.

Oh Clyde. How lovely your bubble must be to live in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions

Notice how many of them are in South America?
30) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1588861)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
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But then, I am cynical enough to have suspicions that she arranged the threat, just for the publicity.

Ahhh..you are saying she was asking for it and brought it on herself.

Now where have we heard that argument before?
31) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1588860)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
But what about the incident in Utah (other than, of course, whatshisnertz the perp) is misogynist? The police enforcing the law? The law itself?

Well the incident itself is misogynistic. Someone is denied her free speech through the threat of force simply because she is a women who talks about feminism and female representation in the game.

And Anita Sarkeesian has been threatened before for her views on female representation in games.

In any case, this is probably related to Gamergate which is pretty much the misogynistic group of gamers against the more progressive games media and gamers. And yes, there are quite a few misogynists within gaming culture.

Well you get my point, at least.
32) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1588744)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Interesting article on the nature of marijuan addiction.

Marijuana Addiction Is (Almost) All in Your Head

"However, as with all other drugs, only a minority of marijuana users ever struggle with addiction. Research suggests that about 10% get hooked—and on average, marijuana addiction lasts six years. Even more than other addictions, marijuana addiction seems to be driven by self-medication of mental health problems— 90% of people with marijuana addiction also have another addiction or mental illness, typically alcoholism or antisocial personality disorder. "

This rings true from what I have seen.
33) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1588738)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Has the what displaced the what now? Nevermind, carry on...:)

I don't think he understood the article.
34) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1588737)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Next, I stand by my assertion that South America is a collection of unstable states supported by a global drug trade. I have not heard any solid evidence to say otherwise so far.

Nor have you produced any evidence to support your claim. Sorry, but youre the one making the claims here, the burden of proof lies with you. Show us evidence that South American states are A) unstable and B) mostly reliant on international drug trade, meaning that the profits of any drug trade go straight into the government coffers and not into the pocket of a few drug lords who are beyond the law.

The Drug Lords are 'Paying Off' The Authority's, to continue their trade.

It is an Unholy Alliance.

Yes, many of these Country's are Unstable. However... The Drug Trade is not the Major Economic Stimulus for these Country's.

True.

...and they are unstable because the US has a deliberate policy of keeping them that way.
35) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1588554)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
lol!
_____________
note to self.
Must remember not criticize the class of rich and powerful people known as
bankers, politicians, drug cartels, and law enforcement.
That would just be mindless, silly, bigotry on my part!

GOT IT? Yes Got It!

LOL!!
36) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1588328)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
How do you think that the Continent of South America funds it's existence?

Oil and mining?
37) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1587572)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
A blanket ban on weed is actually ridiculous and disproportionate.


+1, wouldn't work either. How many people are using heroin or other illegal drugs? They 'score' everyday...

There are 'Recreational' Users of Heroin and Crack?

There are, but they don't tend to stay that way because Heroin and Crack are so physically addictive. Alchohol is also physically addictive which is why Amy Winehouse died when she tried to go cold turkey.

Marijuana and Cocaine are not actually physically addictive, but they can be psychologically addictive. Cocaine more so because of the nature of the high. However there are plenty of people who use weed and cocaine at weekends and it doesn't effect their lives in a negative way at all. Cocaine, however has been shown to be far more harmful to health than weed.

As far as recreational drugs go, weed really is less harmful than regular trips to Mc Donalds.


Uhh.. Es99:

Crack IS Cocaine.

Cocaine dependance is primarily psychological, with a much smaller physical dependance component. 'Crack' is considered by some to be more 'addictive', primarily due to the rapidity of it entering the system compared to powder cocaine, but there is a good amount of dispute on that topic.

For most intents and purposes, they can be considered the SAME drug.

fair enough..but the process that is done to cocaine to make it crack does change the drug.
38) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1587429)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
A blanket ban on weed is actually ridiculous and disproportionate.


+1, wouldn't work either. How many people are using heroin or other illegal drugs? They 'score' everyday...

There are 'Recreational' Users of Heroin and Crack?

There are, but they don't tend to stay that way because Heroin and Crack are so physically addictive. Alchohol is also physically addictive which is why Amy Winehouse died when she tried to go cold turkey.

Marijuana and Cocaine are not actually physically addictive, but they can be psychologically addictive. Cocaine more so because of the nature of the high. However there are plenty of people who use weed and cocaine at weekends and it doesn't effect their lives in a negative way at all. Cocaine, however has been shown to be far more harmful to health than weed.

As far as recreational drugs go, weed really is less harmful than regular trips to Mc Donalds.
39) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1587267)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Clegg must be a fairly clever man to have made it to where he is, but if he didn't see that breaking his word over such a clearly defined issue would overshadow all the 'good' he's done, then he's not a very sharp politician.

I am not in the business of defending Clegg, he is big enough to do that for himself. At the time he found himself between a rock and a hard place, almost which ever way he went it was going to backfire on him. Personally I would have upped the Fees frpm £3000 to £5000 and explained in detail to students why that decision was taken to protect FE. Then funded the FE shortfall in some other way. That wasn't done, and those of the public like you that were "directly affected" haven't forgotten.

Clegg helped put a government in power that pretty much no one in Britain wanted. He has no credibility and I hope it is the death of his party.
40) Message boards : Politics : Cannabis use & Smoking (Message 1587261)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I would suggest that one of the main reasons for the incidences of rape in India is because of how their society views women. They are seen as mere chattels to be "used" for work, giving birth and sex. The dowry system is still in widespread use there despite the 1961 Dowry Prohibition Act in Indian civil law, and subsequently by Sections 304B and 498a of the Indian Penal Code. That attitude to women in general is the main reason why the laws are not enforced, because Indian society doesn't want them to be. But there is another thread for this discussion.

I agree. But it still suits my point. Es asked whether I would start raping and murdering if there wasn't a law against it. I wouldn't, but as India proves, if you got a society that basically tells its men that rape is 'okay' you can see the result.

So clearly you need laws and strictly enforce those laws in order to combat rape.

Rape is technically illegal in India. So clearly having a law against something doesn't have as much effect as public attitudes to it. It does make it easier to enforce something. However, why do we feel the need to enforce something that doesn't actually harm anyone (if indeed it does) but the user?

Enforce laws against smoking weed and driving. That seems fair.

Enforce laws about smoking around children or in public spaces. Why not?

A blanket ban on weed is actually ridiculous and disproportionate.

Of course we shall see what happens in Washington State and Colorado, but so far it hasn't been awful.


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