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21) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683365)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
At least get it right. That is a military ambulance.

It looks like a truck to me, a military ambulance truck?

Women stepped up in WWII and took the jobs that men were doing. They had been told for so long that women couldn't do these jobs, that they were too weak, or it would make them infertile etc that it was a surprise to them when they did them just as well. Suddenly women were allowed to earn their own money and be independent. They could make their own choices. You will hear many accounts from women of that generation about how the war was the best time of their lives for this very reason.

Then the war was over and these women who had discovered new freedom were told to give the jobs back to the men and go back into the home.

The second world war was the biggest catalyst for the feminist revolution. Can you imagine being able to suddenly work and be independent and free after always being told that the reason woman couldn't do these things was because they were incapable?

The 50s was a reaction against this and a concerted effort was made to put women back where they 'belonged'. It was a terrible, repressive era for women, especially as so many of them had had a glimpse of freedom. Women who were unhappy were put on medication or locked up in asylums. Alcoholism was rife. It is no wonder that the feminists of the 60s and 70s were so angry.
22) Message boards : Politics : Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking, ... (Message 1683345)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Removing female genitals?
Disgusting:(
Men circumcision is about hygenic. Nothing else.

I am sure men can be trusted to keep themselves clean. There is no need to put babies and children through this for that reason alone.

Of course.
Here we can go to a clinic and do the procedure when we are adults.
The men circumcision is VERY painful if not done by professionals.
I cant even imagine how painful the procedure is doing that on young girls...
And it is NOT about hygien!

The two procedures are quite different. Female circumcision is just like cutting off the whole penis.

However, male circumcision should only be done for actual medical reasons and by adults who know what they want.
23) Message boards : Politics : Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking, ... (Message 1683340)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Removing female genitals?
Disgusting:(
Men circumcision is about hygenic. Nothing else.

I am sure men can be trusted to keep themselves clean. There is no need to put babies and children through this for that reason alone.
24) Message boards : Politics : Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking, ... (Message 1683338)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Male circumcision is not the same as female circumcision there are medical reason that it should be done to boys . 10 -15 % of men need it .

Most circumcisions are not done because they are needed. There is absolutely no need to put a healthy child through this. It is cruel and has long term effects.
25) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683329)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Well all men know that women look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world. Let's face it we get told that enough all the time around here.

men these days have to be judged on their actual merit to impress a woman. Its not enough any more to simply be male.

Well there you have it guys, I couldn't have put it better myself. We are not worthy of their attention. Perhaps the women of other star systems are more friendly? Hurry up Seti !!!

Chris, do you feel that being male should be enough to make up for any flaws in your character?
26) Message boards : Politics : Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking, ... (Message 1683327)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-circumcision-mother-court-hearing-20150522-story.html

Why is this barbaric practice allowed to continue???
27) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1683325)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor

I agree with Glenn, that comic is OTT amd a bad attempt to inject humour into a serious matter. The "confucioius he say ..." jokes are legion all over the world, and are not directed directly at Chinese people, and never have been. It is no different to most irish jokes depecting Irish people as not too bright. Do you get Irish people complaining about racism? Most jokes about the Scottish depict them as being tight fisted with money. Does Nicola Sturgeon complain of racism?

The confucious say, when paired with an offensive fake accent and pulling the eyes to make them look slitty (as depicted in the cartoon) is racist. I am sorry you can't see that.

The Irish and the Scottish jokes are also racist and offensive. Seeing as I have heard countless Scottish and Irish people complain that they are, I wonder what world you live in.

As someone of Irish and Scottish descent I find them offensive. My children, who have an Irish father, have been on the receiving end of a stream of racist abuse about the Irish.

Chris, your attitude is a perfect example of English 'superiority'. You simply don't get it as you will never be on the receiving end of such abuse.

I entirely disagree with ES99's view that almost everything she sees is endemically racist and is meant to be. She has highlighted many true instances of pure racism in America against black people, and the anti-Chinese laws of the late 1870s and 1880s, declarations that Chinese people were a threat to mainstream Australia was ridiculous. But other examples are just people being thin skinned and too touchy....

Chris, it is very apparent to me that you simply don't see it. You have made that clear on many occasions. I am not sure what to do to get you see that your comments are often pretty racist and offensive. I put it down to your age and lack of interaction with people of different ethnicities, but that is not really an excuse.
28) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1683320)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
But i spose it's ok for them to speak in there own language about westerners which i have seen a lot off in the public and at work . Respect works both ways

Is Cantonese or Mandarin you speak? What sort of things are they saying?


Ess it's not only the Asians that do it .I don't understand there language but then i don't need to as i have seen talking in there own languge and then someone else whom does understand it has spoken up that they thought what they said was racist so i am not nieave like you sound like you are .

My ex understood Malteese and a few times we where out and some Malteese where saying things and thought nobody understood until my ex spoke up you should have seen there faces when they relised that others did understand .This has also happened at work sites i've worked at . So Respect works both ways

Sorry, the guy did it because he was Chinese or because he was in a gang? Are you saying that all Chinese people are in gangs in Ausralia?


That shows you didn't even look at the link did you . He was chineese but he was running for the seat of Cabramatta and John Newman was the current sitting member . so why don't you have a look at that link and find out what else it was about before commenting

I read the whole link, that is where I got the information from that he was connected with gangs.
29) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683319)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Well all men know that women look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world. Let's face it we get told that enough all the time around here.


All men really?

I have to say that of the women I have met both personally and professionally, I cannot think of any that "look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world."

I must be mixing with the wrong sort of women then.

And women don't mix with the wrong sort of men.

Then assume all/most men are like 'them'?

That is a valid point. I take care to surround myself with good men and my life is better for it. However, it has taken me years to figure out how to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Unlike in the 1950s and 1960s, men these days have to be judged on their actual merit to impress a woman. Its not enough any more to simply be male. There are some that are still upset about this and they then go around accusing the women who challenge them on their sh*t of being man haters.

I don't hate men, I hate a**holes.
30) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682960)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
well Ess maybe you should be telling

http://www.anhdo.com.au/ a very funny man make jokes about Asians all the time

And i would not do what you comic portrays.

So his ironic humour has gone over your head.

But i spose it's ok for them to speak in there own language about westerners which i have seen a lot off in the public and at work . Respect works both ways

Is Cantonese or Mandarin you speak? What sort of things are they saying?

The white Australia policy was bad and most Australians are ashamed of it and was dropped back in the early 1970's.

I have known a lot of Asians that where born here and went to school here and they would not find the thing you show'd in your comic to be offencive it's usually they newer ones that came here that whinge .

Whinge? You mean complaining about racism is whinging now? Can you hear yourself?

And they have done them self no favors by not assimulating with the rest of us and living in there enclaves or trying to turn Australia into there own country .

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/s72739.htm

The only political assassination in this country was done by....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Newman_%28Australian_politician%29

You may wish to note where it happen'd . I remember it well 6 shoots late at night i had not gone to bed and lived not far from where it happen'd and who was the person that did it and why ?

Sorry, the guy did it because he was Chinese or because he was in a gang? Are you saying that all Chinese people are in gangs in Ausralia?
31) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682956)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Ess the problem with stunt's like what Greer and that sweden women have done , do more harm than good why !

Men are the problem right ! well doing crap like that only turns men off the whole thing , they stop listening . You wont get men to change there attitude doing stupid things like that or what Geer does . In fact it only cements men's attitude of women being stupid and can't control there thoughts or actions so need to be controlled .

Seriously?

Funny how men do 'stupid' stuff everyday and their whole gender doesn't get judged on it.
32) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682881)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Here is an article about why racism against Chinese people isn't funny and doesn't have anything to do with needing a 'thicker skin'

RACISM AGAINST ASIAN CANADIANS

and

Anti-Chinese Racism

The anti-Chinese laws of the late 1870s and 1880s, and the White Australia Policy of 1901, were declarations that Chinese people were a threat to mainstream Australia; For individual Chinese people, this could mean violence, wrongful arrest, commitment to a “lunatic asylum”, forced vaccination, eviction from the farms they’d built up, or being refused permission to re-enter Australia.


soo funny...
33) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682874)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Was it her money?

I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.


NO it was not her money

And don't you think it mite have been better to give it to a women refuge to help those women that have been in bad relationships with wife bashers ??? And highlight that , domestic violence .

Seems a bit silly seeing as there must be more than 100,000 women , in Sweden .And earn what amounts to about 50 cents a day less than a man .!

Yet her protest got more attention and discussion than that would have. Are you aware how much advertising costs? She easily got her money's worth.
34) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682872)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Yes I did, did you?

From the wikipedia entry you posted:

Individuals who were present said that no one burned a bra nor did anyone take off her bra.


and
Author and feminist Bonnie J. Dow suggested that the association between feminism and bra-burning was encouraged by individuals who opposed the feminist movement. "Bra-burning" created an image that women weren't really seeking freedom from sexism, but were attempting to assert themselves as sexual beings. This might lead individuals to believe, as she wrote in her article "Feminism, Miss America, and Media Mythology," that the women were merely trying to be "trendy, and to attract men."[22][23][24][25][26]

Women associated with an act like symbolically burning their bra may be seen by some as law-breaking radicals, eager to shock the public. This view may have supported the efforts of opponents to feminism and their desire to invalidate the movement.[27] Since then anti-feminists have used "bra burning" and "braless"[28] to attempt to trivialize the feminist movement.[11]
(my emphasis).

From the second link:

People say that very few women actually burned their bras,
To be honest I don't think anyone did. I point you back to the quote from you wikipedia article: "...that the association between feminism and bra-burning was encouraged by individuals who opposed the feminist movement."

So every time I hear you go on about bra burning, not only do I know the bias of your sources, I also know where you stand on the feminist movement. It gives a very strong impression that your views are sexist.
35) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682749)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Was it her money?
I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.

No:) The notes, thrown on to a barbecue, had been donated by an advertising Agency
Gudrun is a politician with a lot of humour and liked by every opponents:)

It looks like her point was well made. :)
36) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682745)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Your problem is that you intensely dislike anyone who disparages Britain.

Guilty

Since when was national pride a crime???

When continuing to stand proudly knowing that something is seriously wrong. I'm proud of Britain & always have been, unfortunately there is no pride towards those that govern.

It's also a "crime" when that pride leads to racist comments with a "superior" attitude.

+1
37) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682744)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Here is Another very strong woman and with lots of humours:)
She doesn't burn bras.
Gudrun Schyman from the Feminist Initiative burn 10,000 euros in Almedalen in 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudrun_Schyman#Founder_of_the_Feminist_Initiative

I wonder how much food, heat & blankets that 10,000 would have purchased?

Sometimes do-gooders do more harm than good.

Sigh...
Both I and her live in the same country.
We don't lack food, heat and blankets:)
Political parties are not doing Charity...
And 10,000 euros is the average prize to live in a house per year here.

Was it her money?

I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.
38) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682638)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I'll consider my question answered.

If you wish to do so, you have the freedom to assume that, if it is what you want. As I keep saying I try to avoid confrontations with you, but you seem to want to encourage it. I'll leave others to decide why.

And very much against my better judgement, I'll name some strong women that I like very much, which are the panellists on the UK programme "Loose Women". They are all for female liberation and equal rights, but they don't wring their hands in despair or march on the streets. I would consider it a privilege to have dinner with any one of them.

Loose women

Bra burning

Bras 1

Bras 2

Both those links say bra burning never happened. Did you read them?
39) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682635)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
What happens when you don't see colour

40) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682213)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
..but do tell us what you define as rampant Women Liberation people and what they have done that you take issue. I am curious. Do you know any other names apart from Germaine Greer?

Is it 1st wave or 2nd wave feminism you take issue with? Which feminist leaders are bothering you in particular? What is the actual message (I mean what they have actually said and done, not what you think they've done, remember, the whole bra burning thing never happened) that you don't agree with?

Let's have an actual discussion here rather than the general "I don't like them" comments you keep making.

First off, I have been away for three days on matters rather more important than this issue here.

Can we also just remember that this is not a court of law, None of us are in the dock, and you are not the prosecuting counsel. I have been around for far too long to fall for your ploy of inviting me to stick my head in a lions mouth, so you can have the pleasure of biting it off. I don't have to justify myself to you, fact.

I just wanted to know if you knew what you were talking about. I'll consider my question answered.


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