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1) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things I wish that all people who work with the public knew... (Message 1684582)
Posted 4 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Please don't aggressively try to sell me something the minute I walk into a store. I like to be left alone to browse. There are stores I totally avoid because of aggressive sales people. I know they don't really want to know how my day is going. I know this because sometimes I tell them if they are really persistent.
2) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1684531)
Posted 13 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
‘Whiteness gets nuance and blackness doesn’t’
3) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1684521)
Posted 13 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I have found the questionnaire online, you can now test your level of ambivalent sexism for yourself.

The Ambivalent Sexism Inventory

"How can adoration qualify as sexism? To answer this question, you are invited to take the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory and explore the dual nature of prejudice toward women. The inventory takes roughly 5 minutes to complete, and afterward you can compare your level of sexism with the scores received by people from around the world."
4) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1684516)
Posted 14 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
What you get is those parents that can and are able to chose take their kids out of the government funded schools. Those school go in a downward spiral and become sink schools. For example, if there is a good school, the house prices are driven up as parents that can afford it move to be close to those schools, thus driving out of the area the very children you think you are trying to help.
Ah, poverty, not skin color ......

...and we've already pointed out how your skin colour is more likely to ensure you stay poor because of racism.
5) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1684515)
Posted 14 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Sorry, I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that there is no racism because they were racist against Chinese as well?

No, I'm telling you that the blacks benefited from the racism against the Chinese [and others], perhaps not as much as whites, but more than zero.

OBW, the first panel, actually the first four panels, are also about the Chinese Exclusion Act, Japanese and Filipino exclusion and controls on Irish, Italians, Jews and other "undesirables."

The history of the USA is not so black and white as some want to make it out to be.

No one is suggesting it is just black and white.

I'm really not understanding why you think black people in particular benefited from racism against Chinese people. Did racism against black people stop or something just because another group was being treated badly?
6) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1684513)
Posted 14 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.


An interesting paper on differentiating hostile and benevolent sexism:

"In common discourse, paternalism and sexism is often used synonymously..."

Benevolent Sexism

ABSTRACT
The questions the authors address in this chapter can be traced over two decades of work by J. T. Spence and her colleagues. More than any other single researcher, Spence has sought to establish the content of beliefs about women, to determine whether these beliefs are merely descriptions of women or prescriptions for how women ought to be, and to document what has changed and what has remained the same in attitudes toward women across decades of social turmoil in male–female relations. This article addresses the issue of whether gender stereotypes are purely descriptive expectations or prescriptions that are enforced through punishment when they are violated. Implicit in the question is the notion that "feminine" women are seen as very likable but as less competent than men. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)

Ambivalent sexism - ResearchGate. Available from: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/232586301_Ambivalent_sexism [accessed May 26, 2015].


Interesting and definitely pertinent to our discussion. I shall be reading that one.
7) Message boards : Politics : Should the west now send in the troops : ISIS & IRAN (Message 1684508)
Posted 14 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Skyping with the enemy: I went undercover as a jihadi girlfriend

Some insight into how these jihadi's recruit western girls to go to Syria.
8) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1684365)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
...

Interestingly, the Democrats are against 'School Choice'. Where inner city (poor and black) would be able to have better (non-public) schools, with taxpayer assistance. The 'other party' is for this...

If you are actually interested why 'school choice' as you call it is not a solution then you will be interested to know that school choice makes the problem worse.

What you get is those parents that can and are able to chose take their kids out of the government funded schools. Those school go in a downward spiral and become sink schools. For example, if there is a good school, the house prices are driven up as parents that can afford it move to be close to those schools, thus driving out of the area the very children you think you are trying to help.

I am afraid that it is shown that public schools are often much better than non-public schools. When schools are run for profit motive and those profits depend on school scores they do things like refuse to admit special needs pupils, refuse to enter students into exams that they won't get good grades in because it will make the school look bad, they select for the brightest students which makes the problem for the other local schools worse.

I've directly seen the effect on 'school choice' directly, and trust me, it is not a fix for anything.

One thing about teacher's unions is that they are made up of teachers. Teachers are usually very smart and well educated. They are also very dedicated to what is best for their students. If teachers unions are against something, you really should take notice.
9) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1684293)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/05/16/asian-americans-file-complaint-alleging-discrimination-in-harvard-admissions/

Yep, blacks never benefited, despite 1882 to 1965 of them being given some legal preference over Chinese.
In case you were wondering, yes lynching http://www.laweekly.com/news/how-los-angeles-covered-up-the-massacre-of-17-chinese-2169478

Sorry, I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that there is no racism because they were racist against Chinese as well?
10) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1684252)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
11) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1684179)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Just because I'm curious,
A Jess McCabe is the author of the article. Checking for her CV, returns the only item is for writing in the trade architectural field.

She did not link the study. Finding the study wasn't too hard. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.2009.01491.x/citedby However I see that there no references that this study has been cited by other papers. Unfortunately the abstract does not indicate who peer reviewed it, if in fact it was even reviewed.

The free links being exhausted .....

I do have university access.

Kristin J. Anderson, Melinda Kanner and Nisreen Elsayegh

Abstract

Despite the popular belief that feminists dislike men, few studies have actually examined the empirical accuracy of this stereotype. The present study examined self-identified feminists' and nonfeminists' attitudes toward men. An ethnically diverse sample (N = 488) of college students responded to statements from the Ambivalence toward Men Inventory (AMI; Glick & Fiske, 1999). Contrary to popular beliefs, feminists reported lower levels of hostility toward men than did nonfeminists. The persistence of the myth of the man-hating feminist is explored.

Received June 12, 2008.
Revision received July 20, 2008.
Accepted May 7, 2007.


Articles citing this article:
Toward a Constructionist Perspective of Examining Femininity Experience: The Development and Psychometric Properties of the Subjective Femininity Stress Scale
Psychology of Women Quarterly June 1, 2014 38: 275-291

She Loves Him, She Loves Him Not: Attachment Style as a Predictor of Women's Ambivalent Sexism Toward Men
Psychology of Women Quarterly December 1, 2013 37: 507-518

The Masculinity of Mr. Right: Feminist Identity and Heterosexual Women's Ideal Romantic Partners
Psychology of Women Quarterly June 1, 2011 35: 318-326


Regarding the Psychology of Women Quarterly:

"Psychology of Women Quarterly (PWQ) is a feminist, scientific, peer-reviewed journal that publishes empirical research, critical reviews and theoretical articles that advance a field of inquiry, brief reports on timely topics, teaching briefs, and invited book reviews related to the psychology of women and gender. Topics include (but are not limited to) feminist approaches, methodologies, and critiques; violence against women; body image and objectification; sexism, stereotyping, and discrimination; intersectionality of gender with other social locations (such as age, ability status, class, ethnicity, race, and sexual orientation); international concerns; lifespan development and change; physical and mental well being; therapeutic interventions; sexuality; social activism; and career development.

This journal will be of interest to clinicians, faculty, and researchers in all psychology disciplines, as well as those interested in the sociology of gender, women’s studies, interpersonal violence, ethnic and multicultural studies, social advocates, policy makers, and teacher education."

So yes, peer reviewed.

I also downloaded a copy for my reading. Anything else you wanted to know?
12) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Khaleesi, Mother of Raccoons! (Message 1684174)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Thank you, friends, for the kind birthday wishes. (Eric is a Game of Thrones fan.)

Eric and I had a nice day yesterday celebrating my birthday. We strolled in Filoli Gardens, enjoyed a lovely exhibit of botanical art and then went out for a delicious pasta dinner in Half Moon Bay.

The Filoli Gardens, as long as the Sand Sisters weren't there I am sure it was very peaceful.

At least birthdays in Game of Thrones go better than weddings.

Happy Birthday, Mother of Raccoons.
13) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1684110)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Lets just clear up an insulting myth that keeps getting bandied about in this thread.

Non-feminist 'more hostile' towards men than feminists, study finds

"...an explanation for the man-hating myth could be that our culture is so overly focused on men, and male-privilege is so deeply entrenched, that when feminists criticise the status quo it's read as being anti-men rather than addressing the marginalisation and oppression of women."

So do remember that I am criticising sexism and the patriarchy. NOT individual men. When you accuse me of hating men, when I clearly do not, I strongly suspect it is because you like the power that the patriarchy gives you and you think that giving women equality threatens that power.

We have discussed time and time again in this thread how subconscious behaviours reinforce sexism and support this power imbalance. We have discussed the very real negative impacts these have on women. We have discussed micro-agressions and macro-agressions. We have discussed the actual experience of real women. We have suggested ways in which you can change your behaviour to make things better. Asking you to change your behaviour in small ways that can make a real difference does not mean we hate you. We just want things to be better for everyone.

So before you accuse a feminist of hating men, remember this study:

"What they found was that feminists reported less hostility towards men than non-feminists. In effect, not only does this suggest the stereotype is not true, it's actually the reverse."

Every time I hear the accusation that I hate men just because I want people to not be sexist, I judge those people. I judge them of liking the way things are even though they have been told time and time again that half of the population does not. I judge them as not taking seriously the suggestions and views of women. Which means, basically, I judge them as being sexist.
14) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1684056)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
For the past few months there have been some interesting & serious questions asked on this board.

They remain unanswered, instead just as this thread has shown by the last dozen or so posts, they get by-passed. However, I'm going to ask this one again - I'll take odds it never gets answered!

I think women should be allowed to do as they damm well please

Fair point, but at what cost?

Sorry, I did your see your question, but didn't think you were serious. I am quite sure you knew that I wouldn't support anyone behaving in a way that hurts others.

I shall add the qualifier I should have added at the time.

"I think women should be allowed to do as they damm well please in the context of this discussion where we are talking about cosmetic surgery and how they dress".

Home that clears up our miscommunication.
15) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga (Message 1683906)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
We do understand the answers.


Clyde who is we? Is that an admission of multiple personalities? That could explain a lot.

Many people in this forum are refering to "we" and "they".
Who are "we" and "they"?

Us and them, Me and you. Up and down, Black and Blue and who is who...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6qnMB7pOKA


You have excellent taste in music.


+1
16) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683838)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
MIT has put all their gender studies materials online for free.

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/womens-and-gender-studies/

As a suggestion, those interested could start with this one: Feminist Political Thought

"In this course we will examine the development of feminist theory over time. Some subjects we will examine in detail include suffrage and equality; radical feminism; psychoanalysis and feminism; theories of power; sexuality and gender; embodied knowledge; pornography; identities and global feminism; militarism; and the welfare state. Throughout the course we will analyze different ways of looking at power and political culture in modern societies, issues of race and class, poverty and welfare, sexuality and morality."
17) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683830)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
... you don't appear to be at all interested in communication, only being antagonistically argumentative and proving to yourself that you are correct IMHO.

now there is irony.
18) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683804)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
I must be misreading ....

I'm getting that we have a person stating that large breasts are not his preference.

We have another person saying he can't have that preference because he is telling women what to do.

The twist is the person claiming women should go out and get large breasts, presumably so they feel they measure up better to a stereotype of sexual attraction, is a self proclaimed feminist who one would presume abhors sex stereotypes.

Then there is a huge argument over free speech, boob job or no boob job, that is entirely mislabeled as being about sexism.

Am I reading this about right?

No, not really.

He didn't claim large boobs were not his preference, he claimed that fake boobs were not his preference.

He can have whatever preference he wants, the minute he starts telling people what to do based on that is when we cross the line into sexism.

I didn't read anyone anywhere telling women they should go out and get large breasts.

This also isn't about free speech because no one is telling him he can't speak, what they are telling him is that if he speaks in a certain way it will be seen as sexist.

So no, you haven't got anything right.
19) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683794)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
It also appears to me that you want me to flatter and manipulate you into seeing my side of the argument, rather than confronting you outright.


So you do think being confrontational and adversarial is a better approach?

I am quite convinced that I am no more adversarial and confrontational than you are.

I am also aware that women are expected to get what they want by being flattering and manipulative, so when I feel pressure to behave in that way I resist it for obvious reasons. So either we both need to be less adversarial and confrontational, or you need to examine why you expect a different arguing style from me than you do from yourself.
20) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683784)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor

No, I heard it. What I am going on about is misuse of the label, and how doing so is alienating those that might otherwise agree with you.

I don't think I or the others here who have also pointed it out, have misused the label.

It also appears to me that you want me to flatter and manipulate you into seeing my side of the argument, rather than confronting you outright.


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